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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (21 Viewers)

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Philosoraptor

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,031
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Labour candidates knocked on the door asking the missus how we voted. Proceeded to scowl and give her a lecture when she said Green. Great way to make me regret my decision!
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Douglas Adams answered this the best.

"It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,032
Plato nailed it as well.

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,033
Philosorapter said:
Douglas Adams answered this the best.

"It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
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My PhD supervisor said ‘don’t worry, if you ever really screw up in life you can always enter politics’
 

Philosoraptor

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,034
And just in case anyone thought I was totally anti Cov Labour.

Spy report from my mother. Duggins came knocking on the house door yesterday. She was impressed. Sorting out her little issue.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,035
Philosorapter said:
And just in case anyone thought I was totally anti Cov Labour.

Spy report from my mother. Duggins came knocking on the house door yesterday. She was impressed. Sorting out her little issue.
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Think I saw that on pornhub?
 
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Ian1779

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,036
I think the most interesting thing to watch for will be the Scottish results.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,037
Ian1779 said:
I think the most interesting thing to watch for will be the Scottish results.
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It's on the East side of Scotland you need to watch out for. This side is the part of Scotland which are more likely not to vote for the SNP regionally.

The addition of the second Scottish independence party in the Parliament vote may tip the balance for independence against the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems etc but again the seats that are most likely to change first are the Edinburgh side which are a lot more conservative in their views.

it's a werid voting system up here, and 16+ allowed to vote.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,038
Philosorapter said:
It's on the East side of Scotland you need to watch out for. This side is the part of Scotland which are more likely not to vote for the SNP regionally.

The addition of the second Scottish independence party in the Parliament vote may tip the balance for independence against the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems etc but again the seats that are most likely to change first are the Edinburgh side which are a lot more conservative in their views.

it's a werid voting system up here, and 16+ allowed to vote.
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I lived on the east coast for the best part of a decade, Mrs BSB from the NE corner which was SNP heartland, now mostly Tory. There are two Scotlands really, the quite left wing central belt and well, everywhere else.

'It's not fair that Westminster is biased towards SE England! Now, how about centralising everything in Glasgow?'
 

Philosoraptor

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,039
Brighton Sky Blue said:
how about centralising everything in Glasgow?'
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I thought they already had in the People's Republic of Glasgow.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,040
Philosorapter said:
I thought they already had in the People's Republic of Glasgow.
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I remember thinking it was upmarket when the Pizza Hut had cheese already grated
 

Philosoraptor

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,041
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I remember thinking it was upmarket when the Pizza Hut had cheese already grated
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I use to brag to my friend overseas that I use to live a good 3,000 miles from the nearest Taco Bell. Not anymore
 

Ian1779

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,042
Philosorapter said:
It's on the East side of Scotland you need to watch out for. This side is the part of Scotland which are more likely not to vote for the SNP regionally.

The addition of the second Scottish independence party in the Parliament vote may tip the balance for independence against the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems etc but again the seats that are most likely to change first are the Edinburgh side which are a lot more conservative in their views.

it's a werid voting system up here, and 16+ allowed to vote.
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Allowing 16+ to vote is a good thing both Scotland and Wales are doing.
 

Grendel

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,043
PVA said:
Facebook is absolutely full of right leaning 50+ year olds now

The younger generations are moving away from Facebook and its very much the social media platform of choice for the boomers and they believe literally anything they reach on Facebook.
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The boomers like racist shit on Facebook
 

Philosoraptor

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,044
Ian1779 said:
Allowing 16+ to vote is a good thing both Scotland and Wales are doing.
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I agree. It's part of Citizenship. Would prefer PR as well. to get away from the two-party system. One day though we will have Direct Democracy. The technology is there and we finally get rid of personal interest groups like political parties.
 

Grendel

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,045
Ian1779 said:
Allowing 16+ to vote is a good thing both Scotland and Wales are doing.
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under 21s shouldn’t be allowed the vote
 

Evo1883

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,046
I voted ... Labour

at this point its like tourettes it just happens
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,047
Grendel said:
under 21s shouldn’t be allowed the vote
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Why? Plenty of adults that haven't got a clue politically so why should they get to vote? Lots of people that have never experienced much of life outside their own little bubble, be that due to wealth or poverty, if they're in the arts, sciences, business. What gives them the right to have a say on all those other things they have no idea on? Plenty of kids of 16, or even younger, that will have more experience on what it's like to deal with the issues that affect most people in this country today than JRM ever has or will.

Should we argue over-80's shouldn't get the vote because they're much more likely to be in cognitive decline?
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,048
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Why? Plenty of adults that haven't got a clue politically so why should they get to vote? Lots of people that have never experienced much of life outside their own little bubble, be that due to wealth or poverty, if they're in the arts, sciences, business. What gives them the right to have a say on all those other things they have no idea on? Plenty of kids of 16, or even younger, that will have more experience on what it's like to deal with the issues that affect most people in this country today than JRM ever has or will.

Should we argue over-80's shouldn't get the vote because they're much more likely to be in cognitive decline?
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I'd imagine you'd be just as happy for 16 year old to have a vote if they were likely to vote conservative yea ?
Let's be honest there's only 1 reason you want to give 16 year olds the vote , because they are likely to vote your way.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 6, 2021
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Evo1883 said:
I'd imagine you'd be just as happy for 16 year old to have a vote if they were likely to vote conservative yea ?
Let's be honest there's only 1 reason you want to give 16 year olds the vote , because they are likely to vote your way.
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I'm not sure why one is allowed to drive, marry and reproduce before they can vote
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,050
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm not sure why one is allowed to drive, marry and reproduce before they can vote
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I don't think people should be driving at 17 either though tbh
 
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Ian1779

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,051
Evo1883 said:
I'd imagine you'd be just as happy for 16 year old to have a vote if they were likely to vote conservative yea ?
Let's be honest there's only 1 reason you want to give 16 year olds the vote , because they are likely to vote your way.
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That’s bollocks. It’s their future and they should have a right to contribute their opinions.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,052
Evo1883 said:
I'd imagine you'd be just as happy for 16 year old to have a vote if they were likely to vote conservative yea ?
Let's be honest there's only 1 reason you want to give 16 year olds the vote , because they are likely to vote your way.
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It's up to them to make their own mind up. These days I reckon most would vote something like Green or Lib Dem and so not affect the difference much between the two main parties.

I just think saying "16 year olds shouldn't be given the vote" purely due to age isn't a strong argument when there's plenty of people of all ages who're just as clueless as they are, both left and right.
 

Ian1779

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,053
Grendel said:
under 21s shouldn’t be allowed the vote
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You’re a dinosaur.
 

Evo1883

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,054
Ian1779 said:
That’s bollocks. It’s their future and they should have a right to contribute their opinions.
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Not sure I agree , why stop there then , let 14 year olds vote too
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,055
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm not sure why one is allowed to drive, marry and reproduce before they can vote
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Yep. You can have total responsibility of a completely helpless small human but putting an X in a box? Nah, mate. You don't know enough of life yet for that.
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,056
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yep. You can have total responsibility of a completely helpless small human but putting an X in a box? Nah, mate. You don't know enough of life yet for that.
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Kids are having babies at 13 /14/15 though
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,057
Evo1883 said:
Kids are having babies at 13 /14/15 though
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But they're legally allowed to reproduce at a younger age than they're allowed to vote. Far more personal responsibility in looking after a kid than voting.
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,058
Evo1883 said:
I'd imagine you'd be just as happy for 16 year old to have a vote if they were likely to vote conservative yea ?
Let's be honest there's only 1 reason you want to give 16 year olds the vote , because they are likely to vote your way.
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Completely. I swear I used to think communism sounded like a good idea when I was 16.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,059
Evo1883 said:
I don't think people should be driving at 17 either though tbh
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Which is fine, but at the moment you can drive, marry and reproduce before you can legally vote. Either lower the voting age or raise those
 

Evo1883

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,060
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But they're legally allowed to reproduce at a younger age than they're allowed to vote. Far more personal responsibility in looking after a kid than voting.
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Are they? I'm sure you have to be 18 to legally be solely responsible for a child ..

And there's courts involved at certain ages below
 

Evo1883

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,061
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which is fine, but at the moment you can drive, marry and reproduce before you can legally vote. Either lower the voting age or raise those
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Problem with the reproducing part is people have sex with or without caring about law , and often sex happens below the age of 16 ..how do you plan to make a law based on that alone ...quite hard

Be interesting to see the statistics of successful marriages for people below the age of 18 ,marriage effects 2 people ,it doesn't contributes towards voting In policies effecting millions

We already know younger drivers cause more accidents

They actively have control over who can vote and who can drive
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,062
TomRad85 said:
Completely. I swear I used to think communism sounded like a good idea when I was 16.

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Whereas I've always thought communism was totally and utterly unworkable. Even socialism I thought had massive flaws in the theory. Actually took me the longest to work out the flaws with capitalism, but once you see them you can't unsee them.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,063
Evo1883 said:
I'd imagine you'd be just as happy for 16 year old to have a vote if they were likely to vote conservative yea ?
Let's be honest there's only 1 reason you want to give 16 year olds the vote , because they are likely to vote your way.
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So where do you draw the line with that? Black and ethnic groups are less likely to vote conservative. If you’re going to start coming up with reasons for sections of society not to have the vote it needs to be more comprehensive than who they’re likely to vote for.
 

Evo1883

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,064
skybluetony176 said:
So where do you draw the line with that? Black and ethnic groups are less likely to vote conservative. If you’re going to start coming up with reasons for sections of society not to have the vote it needs to be more comprehensive than who they’re likely to vote for.
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I'm just content with 18 tbh , that's the line for me
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 6, 2021
  • #2,065
skybluetony176 said:
So where do you draw the line with that? Black and ethnic groups are less likely to vote conservative. If you’re going to start coming up with reasons for sections of society not to have the vote it needs to be more comprehensive than who they’re likely to vote for.
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Life experience Tone old chap. Got to draw the line somewhere... or shall we let toddlers vote? Free lollipops for the under 5s would be a vote winner.

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