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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (18 Viewers)

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wingy

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,266
Seems Grant schapps has proposed taxing bicycles and them having number plates .
Might be precursor for leccy scooters or to dissuade them.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,267
wingy said:
Seems Grant schapps has proposed taxing bicycles and them having number plates .
Might be precursor for leccy scooters or to dissuade them.
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Really ?! let’s tax a form of transport that’s great for health and the environment

Some kind of plate/identification wouldnt be a bad shout but practically very difficult
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,268
The cynic in me says it’s another way to get some cash out of people.

Madness that you’d try and reduce cycling (for that is why we tax things) when facing dual climate and obesity crises
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,269
For a party that wants to push the narrative that it's firmly behind green initiatives talking about removing levies that would enable faster development of renewable energy and taxing green forms of transport while arguing for the need to use (and in some cases develop) more fossil fuels seems a very odd way to go about it.

Almost like their real agenda is to protect the business interests of their supporters and donors...
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,270
“Hey Shmmeee, why aren’t you a teacher any more?”

 

Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,271
wingy said:
Seems Grant schapps has proposed taxing bicycles and them having number plates .
Might be precursor for leccy scooters or to dissuade them.
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Absolutely idiotic policy that will put people off getting active, improving their help and putting less pollution into the air.

It's just another thing to appeal to their base who despise the young/active though.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,272
Liquid Gold said:
Absolutely idiotic policy that will put people off getting active, improving their help and putting less pollution into the air.

It's just another thing to appeal to their base who despise the young/active though.
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Was it Grant Shapps who used to sell get rich quick schemes under numerous aliases online while not actually being rich himself? Would certainly explain this policy if so.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,273
A good article by the actually excellent Adam Bienkov

Liz Truss’ ‘Lazy Brits’ Comments Expose her Own ‘Plastic Patriotism’

A leaked recording of the Tory leadership frontrunner deriding UK workers for lacking "graft" gives the game away about her real views of the British people, reports Adam Bienkov
bylinetimes.com
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,274
shmmeee said:
The cynic in me says it’s another way to get some cash out of people.

Madness that you’d try and reduce cycling (for that is why we tax things) when facing dual climate and obesity crises
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I don't even think it's that, it's just pandering to the mostly reactionary wankers that vote for them

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 

skybluetony176

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,275
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,276
shmmeee said:
“Hey Shmmeee, why aren’t you a teacher any more?”

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Am I reading that right, over that period private sector wages should have risen at 5% above inflation. Mine definitely hasn't
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,277
chiefdave said:
Am I reading that right, over that period private sector wages should have risen at 5% above inflation. Mine definitely hasn't
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It means the median salary across all industries rose 5% above inflation. YMMV.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,278
shmmeee said:
It means the median salary across all industries rose 5% above inflation. YMMV.
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Think I'll be sending that to my boss
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,279
She started doing that head nod that liars do when they’re lying. Agreeing with themselves. Sacha Baron Cohen does it innThe Dictator when talking about how they’re only enriching uranium for peaceful purposes

 

Bugsy

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  • Aug 17, 2022
  • #20,280
skybluetony176 said:
She started doing that head nod that liars do when they’re lying. Agreeing with themselves. Sacha Baron Cohen does it innThe Dictator when talking about how they’re only enriching uranium for peaceful purposes

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Is she a fucking robot,
always banging on about the same 3 things, haven't they come up with something else that he's done good. Oh yeah that's fuck all,
And why haven't this been dealt with already seems like there taking fuckin ages to sort out the next PM is ridiculous especially when we have this kind of shit to deal with:

Government 'asleep at the wheel' as Ofgem director quits over energy price cap change

Ofgem recently changed the method it uses to determine the price cap on energy bills and Christine Farnish disagreed with giving suppliers six months instead of 12 to recoup their wholesale energy hedging costs.
news.sky.com
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,281
Just back on the subject of re-nationalising the railways

 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,282
Bugsy said:
Is she a fucking robot,
always banging on about the same 3 things, haven't they come up with something else that he's done good. Oh yeah that's fuck all,
And why haven't this been dealt with already seems like there taking fuckin ages to sort out the next PM is ridiculous especially when we have this kind of shit to deal with:

Government 'asleep at the wheel' as Ofgem director quits over energy price cap change

Ofgem recently changed the method it uses to determine the price cap on energy bills and Christine Farnish disagreed with giving suppliers six months instead of 12 to recoup their wholesale energy hedging costs.
news.sky.com
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,283
It’s not the greatest climate policy I’ve ever seen but it’s a crap ton better than what we have an eminently workable, if a little uninspiring.

 
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wingy

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  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,284
shmmeee said:
It’s not the greatest climate policy I’ve ever seen but it’s a crap ton better than what we have an eminently workable, if a little uninspiring.

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Given the overheated sector of the economy able to fulfill most of this where does the labour force come from?
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,285
wingy said:
Given the overheated sector of the economy able to fulfill most of this where does the labour force come from?
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This is a very very good point. It’s an issue regardless of the current self inflicted wound on the labour market, because even if we had funds and polticial will to retrofit at the scales needed that workforce won’t be needed once they finish the job, maybe 10-20 years, but still time limited.

Short term it’s got to be immigrant labour hasn’t it? I mean we should be massively improving the training paths to trade work anyway, but like healthcare workers that isn’t going to happen overnight.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,286
 
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Otis

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  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,287
skybluetony176 said:
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Just means he is so mean he never takes his daughters to McDonald's anymore.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,288

This 'solar leaf' floats on waterways to create energy like plants

This ‘floating leaf’ could one day decarbonise some of the world’s biggest polluters, according to University of Cambridge scientists.
www.euronews.com
 
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Otis

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  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,289
wingy said:

This 'solar leaf' floats on waterways to create energy like plants

This ‘floating leaf’ could one day decarbonise some of the world’s biggest polluters, according to University of Cambridge scientists.
www.euronews.com
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Sounds fabulous.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,290

Jacob Rees-Mogg says state should no longer ‘deliver certain functions’ after Brexit

‘Our departure from the European Union necessitates a re-thinking of the British state’
www.independent.co.uk
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,291

Union outrage as owner of P&O Ferries makes record profit

DP World saw its profit soar by more than 50% in the first six months of the year.
www.independent.co.uk
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,292
In other foreign policy, the amount of young people drinking in Japan has fallen sharply.

You think they'd be saying great! Less health problems associated with it, societal problems and policing linked to it.

But no. They're having a competition for ideas on how to get younger people to drink more! Because they get less tax yen in.

That's the entire point of taxing it! Not to increase your coffers but as a means of dissuading people and providing funds to pay for the problems it creates.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2022
  • #20,293
He’s a bit of a knob but he’s 100% correct on this

 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2022
  • #20,294
wingy said:

Jacob Rees-Mogg says state should no longer ‘deliver certain functions’ after Brexit

‘Our departure from the European Union necessitates a re-thinking of the British state’
www.independent.co.uk
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Such a wanker he won’t be happy till there’s poor houses and wanton deprivation in every town and city in the country
 

Ian1779

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  • Aug 19, 2022
  • #20,295
Sky Blue Pete said:
Such a wanker he won’t be happy till there’s poor houses and wanton deprivation in every town and city in the country
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The bloke has a hard on for the British Empire which includes going full 1700’s!!
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Aug 19, 2022
  • #20,296
Ian1779 said:
The bloke has a hard on for the British Empire which includes going full 1700’s!!
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And yet somehow he holds the ear of government
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 19, 2022
  • #20,297
Deleted member 5849 said:
And yet somehow he holds the ear of government
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He’s the man of the people
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2022
  • #20,298
wingy said:

Jacob Rees-Mogg says state should no longer ‘deliver certain functions’ after Brexit

‘Our departure from the European Union necessitates a re-thinking of the British state’
www.independent.co.uk
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Jacob Rees-Mogg has just revealed another big lie about Brexit

The Brexit Opportunities Minister has given the game away about the government's real plans for post-Brexit Britain.
adambienkov.substack.com
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 19, 2022
  • #20,299
Can anyone explain to me how a family on the breadline being given £1200 in handout can pay an electricity and gas bill that increases by £2000
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 19, 2022
  • #20,300
Sunlun man

 
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