shmmeee
Well-Known Member
So you’ve proved that there’s an entrenched class system perpetuated by wealth through private education and your answer is to vote Tory?
Despite the spin Sir Starmer was in a fee paying school as indeed was Mr Blair.
Mr Milliband went so he tells us to a comp but his millionaire father gave him private tuition
Mr Corbyn was a grammar school boy but was so thick as pig shit he could barely scrape an A Level. Mr McDonnell went to a £36,000 a year school who paid for that remains a mystery
Gove went to a fee paying school, you used him as an example of working class earlier. IIRC Starmers school was a grammar school that then got turned into a fee paying school whilst he was there.Despite the spin Sir Starmer was in a fee paying school as indeed was Mr Blair.
Mr Milliband went so he tells us to a comp but his millionaire father gave him private tuition
Mr Corbyn was a grammar school boy but was so thick as pig shit he could barely scrape an A Level. Mr McDonnell went to a £36,000 a year school who paid for that remains a mystery
Gove went to a fee paying school, you used him as an example of working class earlier. IIRC Starmers school was a grammar school that then got turned into a fee paying school whilst he was there.
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It would be inspirational if he wasn't a massive c*nt. I was only making the point as you made the point about Starmer going to a fee paying school.He went to a state school and then to a fee paying school which he had Bursaries for. Surely he’s an example of inspiration isn’t he? Unlike thick as fuck Corbyn who had a cushy upbringing and well..was just thick
It would be inspirational if he wasn't a massive c*nt. I was only making the point as you made the point about Starmer going to a fee paying school.
I cant stand Corbyn either.
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Yeah granted I did pick those. What I always find baffling is that stories like these have so much of an impact on a large group of people’s psyche in a overly negative way but it’s coming from a very small minority of voices - it’s like some wierd paradox.You’re choosing those. But it’s stuff like this Transgender model who said 'all white people are racist' appointed as Labour adviser and the Diane Abbott white people tweet and the Gordon Brown “bigoted woman” and Naz Shah not fucking reading fake Owen Jones accounts tweets before she retweets that sticks and forms opinion and is really hard to get rid of.
That’s one of the things that most annoyed me about Corbyn: the intangible damage he did to the party is really hard to shift. Starmer has basically cut it all of at the knees over a year ago and it’s not cut through at all.
Yeah granted I did pick those. What I always find baffling is that stories like these have so much of an impact on a large group of people’s psyche in a overly negative way but it’s coming from a very small minority of voices - it’s like some wierd paradox.
As for your final comment, we are never going to agree on this point... I think the Brexit position did far more damage than Corbyn could have managed, but we don’t need to go over old ground. Either way (and wherever between those 2 positions the truth is) it probably means we won’t see a chance of a Labour government this decade ☹
You’re choosing those. But it’s stuff like this Transgender model who said 'all white people are racist' appointed as Labour adviser and the Diane Abbott white people tweet and the Gordon Brown “bigoted woman” and Naz Shah not fucking reading fake Owen Jones accounts tweets before she retweets that sticks and forms opinion and is really hard to get rid of.
That’s one of the things that most annoyed me about Corbyn: the intangible damage he did to the party is really hard to shift. Starmer has basically cut it all of at the knees over a year ago and it’s not cut through at all.
Yeah granted I did pick those. What I always find baffling is that stories like these have so much of an impact on a large group of people’s psyche in a overly negative way but it’s coming from a very small minority of voices - it’s like some wierd paradox.
As for your final comment, we are never going to agree on this point... I think the Brexit position did far more damage than Corbyn could have managed, but we don’t need to go over old ground. Either way (and wherever between those 2 positions the truth is) it probably means we won’t see a chance of a Labour government this decade ☹
For the record if anyone is remotely interested I was born in Hillfields from very working class parents and my father died when I was young
I lived in a council house. I was the one person amongst my circle of friends who decided I’m going to university.
When I left there was record unemployment. I hooked ul
With a company and said I’d work for nothing as work experience as I knew they’d then employ me.
I was the only graduate in a very hourly paid environment in Jaguar and I was ridiculed every day
Didn’t care as I knew I’d do better and then got employed as a bottom grade analyst in marketing. Then I said I’d work any hours they wanted me to work - often I’d go in at 7 am and leave at 10 pm
I got 3 promotions in 4 years and then privately educated all my children.
I honestly think a Thatcher society provided a work and succeed attitude and if I’d been in a Kinnock led government i would be as angry as many on here
I can't see the point of Labour any more.
Until we stop talking about a mythical working class that hasn't existed for about 40 years they will go round in circles.
Analysis of society along class lines is of no interest to most people.
Working people no longer have any class solidarity which is characterised by understanding that the Tories are, and always have been, your adversaries.
Great achievement , should be proud
Tile hill is a working class area , the area is full of unskilled or semi skilled workers, although the drug dealers would argue their skill is quite unique and some would argue their gun skills are quite top notch
The working class still exist .
Check hard drive.Unreal
Coventrys Labour Council (at a particular branch of employment) have just helped put all the agency staff on pay as you work , and taken us off our guaranteed full time hours but hey #forthepeople
81000 a year salary and estimated to be worth 3.3 million , and tweets that
Fucking depressing honestly
Somebody please sort this party out ffs
Ah yes Mr Cruddas the ultimate leftie who mysteriously managed to fund through parliamentary expenses a second home in Notting Hill so he could send his children to one of the most successful state schools (faith school though as he’s clearly very Roman Catholic) in the country
Another ad hominem.
Yes , we've just recently been on guaranteed hours pay and it's changedTell us more about this;
You are saying Coventry Labour has introduced zero-hour contracts for some of their agency staff?
For the record if anyone is remotely interested I was born in Hillfields from very working class parents and my father died when I was young
I lived in a council house. I was the one person amongst my circle of friends who decided I’m going to university.
When I left there was record unemployment. I hooked ul
With a company and said I’d work for nothing as work experience as I knew they’d then employ me.
I was the only graduate in a very hourly paid environment in Jaguar and I was ridiculed every day
Didn’t care as I knew I’d do better and then got employed as a bottom grade analyst in marketing. Then I said I’d work any hours they wanted me to work - often I’d go in at 7 am and leave at 10 pm
I got 3 promotions in 4 years and then privately educated all my children.
I honestly think a Thatcher society provided a work and succeed attitude and if I’d been in a Kinnock led government i would be as angry as many on here
Yes , we've just recently been on guaranteed hours pay and it's changed
Not saying anymore, although it's shit I still want the job and I don't want to lose it
Don't know who dwells on here
Ah yes Mr Cruddas the ultimate leftie who mysteriously managed to fund through parliamentary expenses a second home in Notting Hill so he could send his children to one of the most successful state schools (faith school though as he’s clearly very Roman Catholic) in the country
And fair play to you for this. I just wonder whether you’d have the same opinion if you had put the work in and not secured promotions off the back of it - would you have put this down to your own failings or would you think “I’ve been taken for a ride here”? Rhetorical question, not expecting an answer but intriguing as a bit of a ‘sliding doors’ moment.
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