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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (14 Viewers)

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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,291
Deleted member 5849 said:
Wish people would work out that the best way to marginalise the SNP is vote Labour. Sure, not immediately, but get a Labour UK government and half the point of the SNP vanishes.

As an aside, local authorities are gearing up to deal with the government's white paper on levelling up, that's along imminently. How that goes could define what happens going forward.
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I honestly believe it’s Johnson’s intention to try to level things up around the country which is a good thing…not sure he had a plan about how to do it and pay for it. Goves on the case…with no cash spare by all accounts
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,292
Deleted member 5849 said:
There are a fair few who are wedded to it whatever the best thing socially and economically, when looked at objectively. Hence why it happened in the first place!
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Undoubtedly there’s a Brexit cult who will hold onto it regardless. There’s also the issue for Boris that a lot of that cult are literally dying out whereas the younger generation many of who will be voting for the first time at the next GE didn’t have a vote in the referendum, didn’t have a vote in 2019 see brexit and Boris for exactly what they are. Even with a brexit cult remaining there’s another dynamic shift in registered voters that doesn’t weigh in the Tories favour.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,293
CCFCSteve said:
I honestly believe it’s Johnson’s intention to try to level things up around the country which is a good thing…not sure he had a plan about how to do it and pay for it. Goves on the case…with no cash spare by all accounts
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The white paper and response, in normal circumstance, would define whether he had a chance of staying in power or not.

atm however, it's all an aside.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,294
No matter how incompetent he is, Johnson, as a populist, will always retain a degree of support well beyond the Tories' natural base. The nationalism and anti immigrant sentiment will be the focus in the coming months.

None of Johnson's potential successors have anything like the charmisa that he does, (although personally I don't understand how so many people don't see through this). That is why the Tories will try so hard to hang onto him as leader despite all the chaos of his leadership.

However, Johnson’s charisma really isn't going to be enough when inflation and, in particular, the energy prices really start to bite. When many of the people who voted Tory for the first time because of Brexit can't heat their homes or feed their children, all the flag waving and anti immigrants rhetoric just isn't going to cut it. And, of course, now they can't blame any of it on the EU. Ultimately it's the economy and people's living standards that are the determining factor in how most people vote.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,295
Classic Tories

 
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Ian1779

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,296
She in particular is an absolute ghoul.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,297
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,298
Ian1779 said:
She in particular is an absolute ghoul.
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Harsh on ghouls that.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,299
Is the reason Grenners claimed no one cares about parties is that no one has ever invited him to one?

Has he sued Earlsdon yet?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,300
David O'Day said:
Is the reason Grenners claimed no one cares about parties is that no one has ever invited him to one?

Has he sued Earlsdon yet?
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Hi David why haven’t you taken my offer of a £500 charity bet yet?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,301
You must have missed it?

Do you want to discuss boring politics?

Zawahi doing the rounds this morning going hard with the 'Johnson thought it was a work event' line. And as ever with this scandal, he does it as reports come out that Johnson was warned it was a social event and not to go ahead with it, but ignored the warnings. I know they're too far in now...
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,302
ahh I have no interest in you apart from mocking you



 

Grendel

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,303
David O'Day said:
ahh I have no interest in you apart from mocking you



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David you say I lead a fantasy life and you are the political guru - I’m more than happy to do this. Actually I’ll make it easy for you I’ll put a thousand in and you put £500 in - I’ll get an account set up on the forum so we have £1,500 in it. If you win you get my grand to your nominated charity. If I win I get the initial £500 to my charity and you top up at the time of the result

You are a gobshite because if you say yes I’ll do it tonight

So tell the forum - are you a gobshite or not? Now if you are proud enough to admit you haven’t the money - I have - I respect this and you tell me what you can afford. I will then double that in tbe created account and I’ll put the money in first

over to you Dave
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,304
Oh dear Dave has shit himself and run away
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,305
Bit weird.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,306
SBT said:
Bit weird.
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Careful I’m having a seance with Jeffery Dhamer as I speak
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,307
Grendel said:
David you say I lead a fantasy life and you are the political guru - I’m more than happy to do this. Actually I’ll make it easy for you I’ll put a thousand in and you put £500 in - I’ll get an account set up on the forum so we have £1,500 in it. If you win you get my grand to your nominated charity. If I win I get the initial £500 to my charity and you top up at the time of the result

You are a gobshite because if you say yes I’ll do it tonight

So tell the forum - are you a gobshite or not? Now if you are proud enough to admit you haven’t the money - I have - I respect this and you tell me what you can afford. I will then double that in tbe created account and I’ll put the money in first

over to you Dave
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Grendel

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,308
It’s strange how people make noise but when push comes to shove it’s a lot of hot air

I think if Boris Johnson remains he won’t win a majority but he will have the most seats in parliament - I’m prepared to back this others well - they are all a bit reluctant
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,309
PVA said:
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He still trying to get my attention? It's a bit sad really.

He needs to get a job or something
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,310
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,311
Moving on from clowns who I have on ignore.


Boris has seemed to have damaged the tories so much that if you look at the data behind the headline figures Labour now lead the tories on things such as immigration.

It's mad
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,312
David O'Day said:
Moving on from clowns who I have on ignore.


Boris has seemed to have damaged the tories so much that if you look at the data behind the headline figures Labour now lead the tories on things such as immigration.

It's mad
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But you won’t take the bet little Dave?
 

SBAndy

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,313
Grendel said:
David you say I lead a fantasy life and you are the political guru - I’m more than happy to do this. Actually I’ll make it easy for you I’ll put a thousand in and you put £500 in - I’ll get an account set up on the forum so we have £1,500 in it. If you win you get my grand to your nominated charity. If I win I get the initial £500 to my charity and you top up at the time of the result

You are a gobshite because if you say yes I’ll do it tonight

So tell the forum - are you a gobshite or not? Now if you are proud enough to admit you haven’t the money - I have - I respect this and you tell me what you can afford. I will then double that in tbe created account and I’ll put the money in first

over to you Dave
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Try hard.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,314
SBAndy said:
Try hard.
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Lie hard more like
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,315
David O'Day said:
Lie hard more like
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Offers on the table Diddy Dave
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,316
shmmeee said:
Classic Tories

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I think we can conclude it has no really effect other than make the poorest worse off when they are wrongly sanctioned.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,317
SBAndy said:
Try hard.
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I’m genuinely ok to do it. I know he will run a mile so yeah it’s funny
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,318
Grendel said:
David you say I lead a fantasy life and you are the political guru - I’m more than happy to do this. Actually I’ll make it easy for you I’ll put a thousand in and you put £500 in - I’ll get an account set up on the forum so we have £1,500 in it. If you win you get my grand to your nominated charity. If I win I get the initial £500 to my charity and you top up at the time of the result

You are a gobshite because if you say yes I’ll do it tonight

So tell the forum - are you a gobshite or not? Now if you are proud enough to admit you haven’t the money - I have - I respect this and you tell me what you can afford. I will then double that in tbe created account and I’ll put the money in first

over to you Dave
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Have you ever thought about a dating app? You’re clearly needing some attention.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,319
Amazing how it’s me that craves attention - I post - the tribe respond
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,320
Grendel said:
Amazing how it’s me that craves attention - I post - the tribe respond
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It’s not amazing to anyone who’s ever read more than 3 of your posts. If ever there was a bloke who needs to get laid it’s you.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,321
wow

 

Grendel

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  • Jan 28, 2022
  • #10,322
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #10,323
shmmeee said:
Classic Tories

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I can answer, they don’t
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #10,324
Sky Blue Pete said:
I can answer, they don’t
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Of course they don’t. They’re about revenge and making people not on benefits feel good.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 29, 2022
  • #10,325
shmmeee said:
Of course they don’t. They’re about revenge and making people not on benefits feel good.
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Revenge sounds a bit strong shmmeee. The underlying thought process doesn’t appear unreasonable although weird that supporting info hasn’t been released. If I was out of work I’d expect to get a job outside of my preference/expertise to earn rather than have benefits. I’m fully able to so why shouldn’t I ?! I reckon most people would as a majority prefer not to be on benefits (which are fuck all) so I doubt the policy change will make a huge difference. I know a fair few who did exactly that, especially during the pandemic and as a nation/western world we have staff shortages so I’m struggling to understand the uproar

It does feel like this has been brought in to divert attention from the shitshow in government though

Edit - an easy win would be to say any savings (as indicate above I think they’d be minimal) would be diverted to boost the amounts given to those that genuinely are can’t work
 
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