Absolutely, and I'm not trying to rerun the whole thing. Too late for that.I won’t actually disagree with anything you said here - the referendum was a sham from start to finish… BUT most people aren’t aware of the finer details of it all. They saw Labour’s approach as an assault on democracy… ignoring the fact that Cameron’s fudge to solve an interval party dispute was far worse.
One thing that the Remain camp have still failed to do to this day is really look inwards as to why it lost.
The ironic thing is that Corbyn’s personal Brexit stance would actually have been popular in these seats and in the past he had given leftist arguments in favour of it.
I agree, he should have had the balls to stand by it.
Labour should have gone out after the referendum and said to their leave voting constituencies ‘sorry we neglected you and your towns when we were in power’ if you give us the chance to lead this exit this is how you’ll see the benefits. But they didn’t anywhere near enough, and should have been a much higher priority than keeping PV campaigners in London happy.Absolutely, and I'm not trying to rerun the whole thing. Too late for that.
But I am trying to explain how Labour got in a mess trying to keep their Leave voters onside instead of taking a clear stand against Brexit. It was difficult but by trying to placate everyone they pleased no-one.
IMO many Remain voters will not just meekly go back to supporting Labour. They are just as much a headache for Labour as Red wall Leavers.
Firstly I never said I was a fence sitter, I don't sit on the fence.Can I just say that “revert to type” has got my back up @TomRad85
You might be Grendels new double act against Tony, but you and Tony are opposite sides of the same coin. You aren’t the all seeing fence sitter you think you are.
Firstly I never said I was a fence sitter, I don't sit on the fence.
Secondly I have no idea why 'revert to type' has your back up.
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OK fine, give me more examples.There’s plenty more that’s got my back up. You aren’t what you think you are
OuchI’ve only known you exist last couple of weeks
OK cool...I’ve only known you exist last couple of weeks
Ermm what's wrong with that exactly? Why should anyone be forced to come out?The bollocks on you. The audacity to to suggest gay people don’t need to come out for one.
Ermm what's wrong with that exactly? Why should anyone be forced to come out?
If by Grendels double act you mean the only non left winger to enter the circle jerk then so be it I guess.
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I not quite sure what's got your back up exactly, i simply have no idea why the public are obsessed with what goes on in people's bedrooms. I mean we could talk about you making disparaging comments about the disabled couldn't we...Bingo
Who’s being forced? No nuance about you. Classic.
At least Grendels got a bit about him
I not quite sure what's got your back up exactly, i simply how no idea why the public are obsessed with what goes on in people's bedrooms. I mean we could talk about you making disparaging comments about the disabled couldn't we...
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Look if any of my comments actually offend then I apologise, genuinely.Bingo
You don't know me so please don't make assumptions.Speak to somebody who not ‘out’ yet and get back to me. Nobody is obsessed. Not sure where you’ve got that from. You love a strawman argument you don’t even see it.
You don't know me so please don't make assumptions.
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OK cool, thanks me letting me know. Still like to know how you got all bent out of shape about 'revert to type.'I’m not offended. I just think you are a bit of a twat.
OK cool, thanks me letting me know. Still like to know how you got all bent out of shape about 'revert to type.'
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Go on. Give me more.There’s more.
“Ok cool” fuck off
Thing is I actually backed him when he made his disabled comments and people were getting on his case, yet he's actually getting super wound up about posts of mine that aren't even offensive. He doesn't know anything about me.Just leave it lads , hill get pissed , Tom go bench press a car , il post silly gifs that never get any responses ... all is good
Just leave it lads , hill get pissed , Tom go bench press a car , il post silly gifs that never get any responses ... all is good
Hill is pissed
Tom is washing the 'pure whiff' out of his tracksuit
You're on Zoom with Ron Jeremy
I wish I was. Yeah I’m sat at work
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