tbf, most of the ones in the latest are exactly as they should be - that politics is irrelevant atm, and people deserve to be safe in their place of work.In regards to the social media comments made earlier by several of us ..
Twitter (one of the worst places ) is already a huge point scoring mess , yes we've all done it in the past on various issues ..but ultimately
Somebody has died
Ofcourse , an overload of information at places that are also designed to keep us coming back for more , with the free ability to comment and say what we want with no consequences 99% of the time ... what could go wrong.Social media is a cancer on society.
Yes there's lots of things to like about it but it has lead to so much division and ultimately it has made the world a worse place.
I don't know what the answer is but we need to dial things down. From the top down its now all about defending your chosen stance no matter what with no room for debate. We need to move away from cheap point scoring & looking to catch people out and somehow try and bring the people of the country together.We do need to do something don't we, it's gone beyond its original intentions
I replied to your original post before I saw he'd tragically died and almost made a comment that people would be trawling social media looking for posts liked by the scum bag who stabbed him to use as 'proof' of their point of view but hoped people wouldn't sink that low, I was obviously wrong.Twitter (one of the worst places ) is already a huge point scoring mess , yes we've all done it in the past on various issues ..but ultimately
In regards to the social media comments made earlier by several of us ..
Twitter (one of the worst places ) is already a huge point scoring mess , yes we've all done it in the past on various issues ..but ultimately
Somebody has died
I must have a well curated Twitter because mine is unanimously sad and outraged.
What a horrific thing to happen. RIP.
I don't know what the answer is but we need to dial things down. From the top down its now all about defending your chosen stance no matter what with no room for debate. We need to move away from cheap point scoring, looking to catch people out and somehow try and bring the people of the country together.
I don't have a twitter account, I actually look at trending them click the trends to view through twitter search.I usually use it for football related stuff and trends, and coventry city and coventry fans pictures / videosAngela reynar is getting it in the neck right now tbh
Tragic murder of Sir David Amess. RIP.
RIP David Amess.
We are shocked to hear of the stabbing of MP Sir David Amess during his constituency surgery - our thoughts are with him at this difficult time.
Shocking news about the MP David Amess
Police have just announced the death of a man at the surgery where Sir David Amess was stabbed. May he rest in peace.
Tory MP David Amess has died following horrific knife attack in Essex church
David Amess MP dies after being stabbed at constituency office, police say
Non political.Sir David Amess* Truly applying attack. May he rest in peace.
Sir David Amess MP just died.
Just sickening. I hope David Amess pulls through.
I remember David Amess from Brass Eye, he was superb in that, whether he was figured in or not I will leave that to others, terrible to hear what has happened today, and I hope he gets well soon, shame on #Twitter for making an environment where this is possible at this time
There's definitely something in the 'bad at interpreting information' thing. Remember when we all thought the problem was people not having access to information that was the issue? The internet has certainly shown that theory to be wrong.The place I’ve come to over time from a strongly libertarian starting point, and it sounds scarily like Loki in the first Avengers is that people need some level of authority, at least in media and information terms.
We are spectacularly bad at interpreting information and have a whole load of neural shortcuts that, aside from a weird bug with cat pictures, all seem to trend to a nasty place.
Without controls the most effective and efficient route to success online or in politics (which is basically online too now) is to tap into those fear and greed centres. Look at the stage of the Cov Telegraph post internet. And it’s not some evil dude say twiddling his moustache saying “let’s do clickbait”, it’s a bunch of people suddenly fighting in the most competitive marketplace amongst tons of free competition, trying to find whatever works to stay afloat.
And you can’t turn it off. I don’t see how you can go back to trusted news sources and sensible political standards. There’ll always be the ability to get your message out widely and build an audience and with it power and money.
It almost worked in the old days with limited choice controlled tightly. But there’s no going back to that. Even if we wanted to morally, which I’m not sure we do.
One thing I don’t think is that well suddenly evolve the capability to process all the info coming at us and it’s ability to trigger our buttons.
It’s not just social media. You’ve had many MP’s and indeed cabinet members using words like betrayal, surrender and traitors to describe other MP’s and prominent members of society. When words Boris used were replicated in death threats to female MP’s and it was suggested that he was inciting hatred he dismissed it. Humbug I think was the exact word he used to dismiss it. Any changes in behaviour needs to start at the top. You can’t expect wider society to change when the PM, MP’s and people of prominence with a platform are openly promoting hatred in a phoney culture war.
There's definitely something in the 'bad at interpreting information' thing. Remember when we all thought the problem was people not having access to information that was the issue? The internet has certainly shown that theory to be wrong.
We've reached this bizarre situation where people just dismiss things they don't agree with or that don't fit their point of view. I was talking to my Dad a while back and mentioned something Johnson had said, can't even remember what it was now, and he didn't believe Johnson would have said that so I pulled up the interview and played it to him. He's literally sat there watching Johnson speak and after that still didn't believe it!
That's why raynar is getting it in the neck on twitter for saying tory scum .
We say it on here fair enough , not the same is it ?
Not sure how you figure that. We’ve got the most left wing Tory govenrment of my lifetime right now.
Or MP James Grey talking online about sending a bomb to Annaliese Dodds constituency office just last month.That's why raynar is getting it in the neck on twitter for saying tory scum .
We say it on here fair enough , not the same is it ?
Well yes that's just repulsive .. only takes one MPs word to be taken as gospel and used as ammunition against another MPOr MP James Grey talking online about sending a bomb to Annaliese Dodds constituency office just last month.
You are unbelievable sometimes Tony. Seriously.It’s not just social media. You’ve had many MP’s and indeed cabinet members using words like betrayal, surrender and traitors to describe other MP’s and prominent members of society. When words Boris used were replicated in death threats to female MP’s and it was suggested that he was inciting hatred he dismissed it. Humbug I think was the exact word he used to dismiss it. Any changes in behaviour needs to start at the top. You can’t expect wider society to change when the PM, MP’s and people of prominence with a platform are openly promoting hatred in a phoney culture war.
Why?You are unbelievable sometimes Tony. Seriously.
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Yeah okay. Says the man who’s only interested in the football threads when we’re losing.just ignore him. He is still trying to get get likes and backslaps from people like PVA and o day when an Mp had died - he should have a ban from here - he’s not even interested in the football at all
just ignore him. He is still trying to get get likes and backslaps from people like PVA and o day when an Mp had died - he should have a ban from here - he’s not even interested in the football at all
This rhetoric of traitor, treason, surrender, betrayal is out there in some of our papers, some of our radio shows and social media and has been repeatedly over the last 5/6 years. The people responsible for putting this out there have influence.You are unbelievable sometimes Tony. Seriously.
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This rhetoric of traitor, treason, surrender, betrayal is out there in some of our papers, some of our radio shows and social media and has been repeatedly over the last 5/6 years. The people responsible for putting this out there have influence.
If calling out Rayner for saying Tory scum is the right thing to do, then calling out all the other stuff is also the right thing to do.
Social media operators have a responsibility too… time to stop putting revenue streams over appropriate control and find a way to hold anonymous posters accountable for their bile and hatred.
This one. What a dick you are.Im sure he’s racist homophobic scum isn’t he?
Show me where.You have of course defended Rayner and laughed at the IDS incident
This rhetoric of traitor, treason, surrender, betrayal is out there in some of our papers, some of our radio shows and social media and has been repeatedly over the last 5/6 years. The people responsible for putting this out there have influence.
If calling out Rayner for saying Tory scum is the right thing to do, then calling out all the other stuff is also the right thing to do.
Social media operators have a responsibility too… time to stop putting revenue streams over appropriate control and find a way to hold anonymous posters accountable for their bile and hatred.
2 MPs murdered in just over 5 years.
What the fuck. Fucking shitshow.
Not just in this country mind, the whole world seems to be divided against each other.
The current Secretary of State for media and Culture has also made use of the word traitor. To describe a former Tory PM no less.This rhetoric of traitor, treason, surrender, betrayal is out there in some of our papers, some of our radio shows and social media and has been repeatedly over the last 5/6 years. The people responsible for putting this out there have influence.
If calling out Rayner for saying Tory scum is the right thing to do, then calling out all the other stuff is also the right thing to do.
Social media operators have a responsibility too… time to stop putting revenue streams over appropriate control and find a way to hold anonymous posters accountable for their bile and hatred.
FWIW I don’t think Tony was, but equally you didn’t need to mention left-wing in this reply (I don’t think you are point scoring either here)Tony knew exactly what examples he was using to fit his narrative, he's lost the plot. You don't have to look very far to find left wing hatred from politicians beyond Rayner but now really isn't the time for point scoring. As it wasn't when Jo Cox was murdered.
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Didn’t take long for the insults to go back and forth between people who should know better
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