MPs getting a three grand pay rise I see,The leaders of all parties should come out and give it to a kids charity.
Didn’t Dave Nellist refuse his MPs salary when he was an MP in the 80’s? Just took a living wage etc?
Bloody lefties giving away their wages for the less fortunate.
If only we had a government that would appropriately tax all the companies that have made a fuck load of money out of the Cov-ID pandemic.True enough....but equally its not the fault of those employed outside of the public sector & its relative security.
I don't necessarily agree with it, but it is what it is.....
I've said before it should be written legislation that MP's shouldn't be allowed a salary increase greater than the lowest percentage increase for public sector workers. If possible I'd include the top civil servants in that.
I've said before it should be written legislation that MP's shouldn't be allowed a salary increase greater than the lowest percentage increase for public sector workers. If possible I'd include the top civil servants in that.
If only we had a government that would appropriately tax all the companies that have made a fuck load of money out of the Cov-ID pandemic.
Haven’t multimillionaires/billionaires seen their wealth increase by like 25% or something?
But it’s those pesky teachers that are being greedy (which I know you are not actually saying - buts that how they’ll let it be perceived)
Most workers in the private sector will get no pay increase
The problem is their wages are low in comparison to the private sector and there should be an actual wage level which makes people want uk be an MP
Frontline healthcare workers aside, I'm afraid public sector pay rises this year generally would be seen as a slap in the face for the millions of folks who have lost their jobs, had their earnings decimated, seen their businesses go under & look forward to more of the same in 2021....
Disgraceful that the MPs are taking theirs.......but not at all surprising.
Yeah, I'd say having a semi-guaranteed job is reward enough atm, and it's time to support others less fortunate. Shame MPs won't lead from the front in that, mind you.
In normal circumstances I'd be all for the campaign against wage depression, but this is not a normal year. It's been horrible for just about everybody, and I suspect there are very few people who can say they've enjoyed their job this year, and it's been an absolute pleasure!
The problem is their wages are low in comparison to the private sector and there should be an actual wage level which makes people want uk be an MP
Find me a private sector job you can do with no experience and no qualifications that earns you £80k/year in your first year.
Let’s not pretend these are board level quality people here. Most would be lucky to rise to middle manager is a regional mobile phone sales business. This theory is always floated but if anything as pay has gone up the quality of MPs has gone down.
Ridiculous - why aren’t you doing it then? Oddly you big up far inferior versions who can only make to council levels. I wonder why
I know that - and you can see the huge disparity in the private sector where some people have been furloughed for 6+ months and some that have worked every day on a barely minimum wage as they were classed as key workers.Most workers in the private sector will get no pay increase
When you take into account expenses it isn't a bad salary. I don't have a problem with them getting a pay rise tbh, it is illogical to argue against it imo.The problem is their wages are low in comparison to the private sector and there should be an actual wage level which makes people want uk be an MP
He's thick as shit. He made a c**t of himself and ended up being schooled by Martin Luther King's daughter the other dayIf Ben Bradley worked for a large corporation he’d be a janitor. No way he’s took a pay cut to be an MP. Being tipped for ministerial position. He has all the right qualifications in this dumbed downed government too.
He's thick as shit. He made a c**t of himself and ended up being schooled by Martin Luther King's daughter the other day
To be fair to MPs it is not them that sets their wages.
To be fair to those criticising they also get recommendations for pay rises for workers that they’re happy to ignore. Maybe the answer is to take public sector pay out MPs hands too?
That's a good point. The other option is just to guarantee an annual cost of living increase based on RPI.To be fair to those criticising they also get recommendations for pay rises for workers that they’re happy to ignore. Maybe the answer is to take public sector pay out MPs hands too?
I agree with the latter point. It's the same whenever people protest about removal of conditions, perks etc. because they don't have them. Surely they should be supported to maintain them, and then everybody campaigns for other areas to *gain* them too!That's a good point. The other option is just to guarantee an annual cost of living increase based on RPI.
People in the private sector (I'm one of them despite working in the broad public sector) being against pay rises for public sector workers is misguided. Where is the incentive for any employer to increase pay if you know wages are suppressed elsewhere?
I agree with the latter point. It's the same whenever people protest about removal of conditions, perks etc. because they don't have them. Surely they should be supported to maintain them, and then everybody campaigns for other areas to *gain* them too!
That being said, Covid has exposed certain benefits I hadn't thought of until now of the public sector. I work both private, and public. The private job has all-but evaporated (depended on funding, and the funding is going into rescuing projects already up and running, rather than new ones) whereas the public job is, at least, secure in its hours and pay, and tbf to senior management, they've managed the crisis very well, in my view.
I don't think, however, it's appropriate for pay rises this year as it is exceptional. What that money should be used for is funding additional jobs, re-training, and other areas that will be needed going forward. By all means, in normal circumstance it's been ludicrous that public sector pay has been frozen as long as it has, but we're not in normal times. Compared to my other job, I'm glad to have one at all atm!
And yes, I appreciate it's probably naive to expect funding for public benefit going forward but... you never know!
I agree with the latter point. It's the same whenever people protest about removal of conditions, perks etc. because they don't have them. Surely they should be supported to maintain them, and then everybody campaigns for other areas to *gain* them too!
That being said, Covid has exposed certain benefits I hadn't thought of until now of the public sector. I work both private, and public. The private job has all-but evaporated (depended on funding, and the funding is going into rescuing projects already up and running, rather than new ones) whereas the public job is, at least, secure in its hours and pay, and tbf to senior management, they've managed the crisis very well, in my view.
I don't think, however, it's appropriate for pay rises this year as it is exceptional. What that money should be used for is funding additional jobs, re-training, and other areas that will be needed going forward. By all means, in normal circumstance it's been ludicrous that public sector pay has been frozen as long as it has, but we're not in normal times. Compared to my other job, I'm glad to have one at all atm!
And yes, I appreciate it's probably naive to expect funding for public benefit going forward but... you never know!
As you've pointed out when the good times are here private enterprise is great but when they inevitably disappear and the money isn't there to be made that same enterprise goes into hiding to protect their own fortunes. Imagine if the entire economy were based on this and how much contraction and job losses there would be as they all run away from the sinking ship to save their own skins. Once again it's left to the public purse to steer that ship out of trouble, picking up the tab to stimulate growth and investment then the private enterprise come back out the woodwork and make money. Nationalised losses, privatised gains.
Now this isn't meant as some 'nationalise everything' rant. Both private and public provide opportunities to improve in various ways. It's more about those that extol the virtues of private enterprise and capitalism and how they should predominate everything cos it's great. If we had one downturn without much of a public sector to bail us out and get things moving the shitshow that would follow would be enormous.
Sunak's star is deffo ebbing, got owned left right and centre today in parliament.
been briefed against from within his own party as well. I wonder which bollock jowled Machiavellian Scotsman with a penchant for chisel could be behind that?
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