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Terry_dactyl

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  • Today at 1:31 PM
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s a quote attributed to Winston Churchill, not something your ‘old professor’ said, unless he was referencing him. A lot of us are neither, but social democrats wanting a mix of the government running some things and the free market others.
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I thought it was Dennis Healey but I ain’t bothered to check.
 

Grendel

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  • Today at 1:49 PM
  • #55,722
mmttww said:
Glad this thread exists so we can see folks hyping a bloke that digs Nazism on a forum for a club who's city was destroyed by Nazis. Not weird at all.
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Drivel
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 1:53 PM
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Terry_dactyl said:
I thought it was Dennis Healey but I ain’t bothered to check.
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I say attributed to Churchill, there’s no record of him saying it. It certainly didn’t originate with this ‘old professor’ anyway.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Today at 1:59 PM
  • #55,724
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I say attributed to Churchill, there’s no record of him saying it. It certainly didn’t originate with this ‘old professor’ anyway.
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Reminds me of a professor I knew once, he said to me, “Terry”, he said, “Terry, I have a dream today. I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal'”.
I can’t remember his name now. Think he taught woodwork.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 2:02 PM
  • #55,725
Sky Blue Pete said:
Are you like this in real life
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I was asking if you could read? You tried being a smart arse first
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 2:03 PM
  • #55,726
SkyBlueDom26 said:
I was asking if you could read? You tried being a smart arse first
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Not really I know I’m not that smart
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 2:03 PM
  • #55,727
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m not suggesting anything my friend
Societal collapse comes when wealth inequality reaches the levels we are now seeing
Look in the history books
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Blame all the billionaires and rich people who have created all the big companies that employ everyone, same rhetoric every single time it’s hilarious. It’s almost as if you don’t want people to enjoy hard earned money
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 2:06 PM
  • #55,728
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Blame all the billionaires and rich people who have created all the big companies that employ everyone, same rhetoric every single time it’s hilarious. It’s almost as if you don’t want people to enjoy hard earned money
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I love how people extrapolate a wildly extreme position from a comment people make

billionaires shouldn’t be a thing it’s a monstrous amount of money a million millions

If we don’t work out a way of managing it the world won’t work
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 2:08 PM
  • #55,729
Sky Blue Pete said:
I love how people extrapolate a wildly extreme position from a comment people make

billionaires shouldn’t be a thing it’s a monstrous amount of money a million millions

If we don’t work out a way of managing it the world won’t work
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Almost starting to sound like that fucking clown shmmeee, it’s always the attitude of wanting stuff given and taking away from the rich. Why shouldn’t people be billionaires that have come from nothing and worked hard, typical socialism bollocks
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 2:08 PM
  • #55,730
SBT said:
Didn’t the generation before you share their resources to help you succeed? Why should it stop with you?
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That was like the poll tax debate, you'd get my boss at the time arguing for, even though he'd come through the ranks from Irish decent,no kids bungalow up round the back of The crem not aware that his family of 8kids had all been educated,knew every loophole going in the tax.system,we were able to discuss this as simple people, explain our differences and get on with things, exciting work,hard work, best boss I ever had in reality, don't know if that's possible now?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 2:23 PM
  • #55,731
wingy said:
That was like the poll tax debate, you'd get my boss at the time arguing for, even though he'd come through the ranks from Irish decent,no kids bungalow up round the back of The crem not aware that his family of 8kids had all been educated,knew every loophole going in the tax.system,we were able to discuss this as simple people, explain our differences and get on with things, exciting work,hard work, best boss I ever had in reality, don't know if that's possible now?
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Unless we intend to have anarchy, people need to contribute some of their resources to the pot of money from which we can pay for a functioning society to live in. That's all tax really is when it comes down to it.
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 2:27 PM
  • #55,732

Matt Tebbutt to replace Gregg Wallace on MasterChef: The Professionals

The Saturday Kitchen host replaces Wallace, who was sacked after a report upheld complaints over his behaviour.
www.bbc.co.uk

Great news for Starmer, this will mean that billions of pounds continues to flow into the British economy
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 2:29 PM
  • #55,733
SBT said:

Matt Tebbutt to replace Gregg Wallace on MasterChef: The Professionals

The Saturday Kitchen host replaces Wallace, who was sacked after a report upheld complaints over his behaviour.
www.bbc.co.uk

Great news for Starmer, this will mean that billions of pounds continues to flow into the British economy
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Are you drunk or something?
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 2:30 PM
  • #55,734
SBT said:

Matt Tebbutt to replace Gregg Wallace on MasterChef: The Professionals

The Saturday Kitchen host replaces Wallace, who was sacked after a report upheld complaints over his behaviour.
www.bbc.co.uk

Great news for Starmer, this will mean that billions of pounds continues to flow into the British economy
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Till some rumours get him?
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 2:30 PM
  • #55,735
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Are you drunk or something?
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I would delete this
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 2:33 PM
  • #55,736
Hopefully the police arrest them all and throw them in jail, supporting a terrorist organisation is a disgrace
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 2:34 PM
  • #55,737
SBT said:
I would delete this
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Or what mr ‘sbt’
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 2:37 PM
  • #55,738
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Hopefully the police arrest them all and throw them in jail, supporting a terrorist organisation is a disgrace
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He had a way with words though didn't he?
 

chiefdave

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  • Today at 2:37 PM
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shmmeee said:
That and you get more bigoted as your brain plasticity and world shrinks.
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I read a couple of studies a few years back that were researching if there was a link between early signs of brain deterioration and the likelihood of voting for parties to the right of centre.

From what I can recall they very much did find a link but were at pains to state that the studies weren't comprehensive enough to assert it as fact.

But the theory was essentially that loss of empathy is one of the early signs of brain deterioration, we see that with the stereotypic increasingly casually racist old person, and with the loss of empathy came an increased likelihood of right wing parties appealing.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 2:37 PM
  • #55,740
wingy said:
He had a way with words though didn't he?
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What supporting Palestine action, yeah embarrassing
 

chiefdave

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  • Today at 2:38 PM
  • #55,741
Nick said:
8am on a Saturday. Wanking over yougov and calling everybody racist and thick. Life goals.

Weird as fuck to get life views from small polls.
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I think I've missed this. Has it been decided that polls are 'fake news' now? Is it just some polls or polling in general?
 

chiefdave

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  • Today at 2:40 PM
  • #55,742
Marty said:
Crack on with sharing your resources then. I've grafted and sacrificed and now reaping the rewards, I should now have to share them to people who couldn't be bothered?
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Unless you're extremely wealthy, and we're not even talking top 10% here more top 1%, I don't think you really need to worry.

When people talk about the sharing of resources, with reference to wealth, they are mainly talking about the super rich. The fact that we're seem a huge transfer of wealth in the last 15 years to those at the very top which many people feel is unfair and needs to be reversed.

The idea that the very richest in society are getting a lot richer, by doing very little different, while we have record numbers of people in work on benefits due to poverty wages doesn't sit well with some people.
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 2:43 PM
  • #55,743
chiefdave said:
I read a couple of studies a few years back that were researching if there was a link between early signs of brain deterioration and the likelihood of voting for parties to the right of centre.
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 2:53 PM
  • #55,744
You can have the billionaire companies boosting the economy, but tax them efficiently. Nobody needs a billion pounds either. Not even 100 million. Its greed
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Today at 3:02 PM
  • #55,745
chiefdave said:
I read a couple of studies a few years back that were researching if there was a link between early signs of brain deterioration and the likelihood of voting for parties to the right of centre.

From what I can recall they very much did find a link but were at pains to state that the studies weren't comprehensive enough to asset it as fact.

But the theory was essentially that loss of empathy is one of the early signs of brain deterioration, we see that with the stereotypic increasingly casually racist old person, and with the loss of empathy came an increased likelihood of right wing parties appealing.
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Tell that to Harold Wilson (dementia is said caused his premature retirement from politics) and Nigel Lawson (razor sharp till the end).
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 3:05 PM
  • #55,746
Ccfcisparks said:
You can have the billionaire companies boosting the economy, but tax them efficiently. Nobody needs a billion pounds either. Not even 100 million. Its greed
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See Tesla are going to pay Elon a trillion dollars if he achieves target's in the next 10years.Hmm.
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 3:06 PM
  • #55,747
Captain Dart said:
Tell that to Harold Wilson (dementia is said caused his premature retirement from politics) and Nigel Lawson (razor sharp till the end).
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P we probably diet related,pipi smoker v cigar smoker?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Today at 3:18 PM
  • #55,748
wingy said:
P we probably diet related,pipi smoker v cigar smoker?
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Lawson was a right fattie while he was an MP he lost the weight quite late in life and lived to be 91, Wilson died aged 79 and was never substantially overweight.

Anyway my point is that citing a 'report' is insufficient reason to assume any correlation never mind causation.
 
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fatso

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  • Today at 3:40 PM
  • #55,749
SBT said:
What were they a professor of?
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Aeronautical engineering.
 
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fatso

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  • Today at 3:46 PM
  • #55,750
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Almost starting to sound like that fucking clown shmmeee, it’s always the attitude of wanting stuff given and taking away from the rich. Why shouldn’t people be billionaires that have come from nothing and worked hard, typical socialism bollocks
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You are forgetting that socialism wants a redistribution of the wealth, so wealth creators stop creating wealth, (because what's the point) and those who create fuck all and do fuck all, are rewarded for doing fuck all.
Then eventually all men are equally wealthy, which means we are all in the same queue at the food bank.

Fantastic idea.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 3:55 PM
  • #55,751
fatso said:
You are forgetting that socialism wants a redistribution of the wealth, so wealth creators stop creating wealth, (because what's the point) and those who create fuck all and do fuck all, are rewarded for doing fuck all.
Then eventually all men are equally wealthy, which means we are all in the same queue at the food bank.

Fantastic idea.
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I don't think there's a single pure socialist on this forum
 

fatso

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  • Today at 3:58 PM
  • #55,752
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don't think there's a single pure socialist on this forum
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Never said there was.

And what's so funny about aeronautical engineering?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Today at 4:15 PM
  • #55,753
fatso said:
Never said there was.

And what's so funny about aeronautical engineering?
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It’s good to see someone on here that lives in the real world, there are only a handful of us but the minority on here are the majority in the real world. Will be an all timer on here when reform get in
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 4:25 PM
  • #55,754
fatso said:
Aeronautical engineering.
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What were his views on the NASA Apollo missions?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Today at 4:26 PM
  • #55,755
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Almost starting to sound like that fucking clown shmmeee, it’s always the attitude of wanting stuff given and taking away from the rich. Why shouldn’t people be billionaires that have come from nothing and worked hard, typical socialism bollocks
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Socialism bollox mmmm
Do you understand how the world works
 
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