Do you want to discuss boring politics? (19 Viewers)

[ccfc922]

Men are visiting the hotel to have sex with the male migrants?
Never a single issue? Who are all the people in the prisons guilty of child rape prior to 2016?

again I don’t think I’m self righteous and I’ve given evidence against an Iraqi man that sexually assaulted my daughter just before covid so don’t assume you know what my experiences are? Of course it wouldn’t be good to have someone ask to see her pussy but that’s no different if it’s an immigrant from her sixth form colleagues back in the day

Fucking hell you genuinely dont hear yourself do you?

Carry on living in your happy clappy land where the world is full of good people and there's just the odd wrong un

 

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[Sky Blue Pete]

no they don’t lol

you can’t go to Oz for starters without having a sponsor

Slightly different
Shall I share Facts about asylum - Refugee Action.

 

[skybluetony176]

yeah because they wouldn’t be allowed so same should apply by coming illegally

You do understand that it isn’t actually illegal to arrive in any country by boat. Including ours.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

so you’ve got one person saying you can just claim asylum anywhere which was lies

vast majority of illegal immigrants don’t come here via a visa because you don’t need one

they come by boats and then get houses in hotels

as for the black market. that’s why I don’t use any delivery company anymore

30000 last year out of 1mn

 

[GIMOC]

You do understand that it isn’t actually illegal to arrive in any country by boat. Including ours.

hate to be the person who tells you this

you come here without any documents you should be allowed to step foot on our soil

So with your thinking does that mean I can go Spain without a passport?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Fucking hell you genuinely dont hear yourself do you?

Carry on living in your happy clappy land where the world is full of good people and there's just the odd wrong un

That’s the world we all live in otherwise there’d be more than 85000 locked up out of 60 million

 

[GIMOC]

Slightly different
Shall I share Facts about asylum - Refugee Action.

lol refugee action. enough said

you are clearly brainwashed. if kids getting raped, kidnapped doesn’t open your eyes to this. nothing will

 

[ccfc922]

Not in the one hotel it doesn’t - which PVA refuses to name

How interesting

I think if we up the accomodation from hotels to luxury Spa, then that will help?

Maybe throw in a Gym membership too? You know, to keep them fit and healthy?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

hate to be the person who tells you this

you come here without any documents you should be allowed to step foot on our soil

So with your thinking does that mean I can go Spain without a passport?

Just acknowledge his point the 1951 act gives a person the right to claim asylum
You can say you don’t agree but you can’t say it doesn’t exist or he’s wrong

 

[wingy]

I will say though that this is a growing problem,in the words of Enoch, there are now more market for illegals which is only natural,as the one's who came legally or illegally become established here then they will be prepared to exploit them, standard's dilute!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

lol refugee action. enough said

you are clearly brainwashed. if kids getting raped, kidnapped doesn’t open your eyes to this. nothing will

You want me to link the act ffs

and yep im brainwashed to think that no children are being raped in our society other than by young migrants in hotels ffs

There’s an issue that needs resolving it’s not easy and there are no easy binary options here

 

[skybluetony176]

so you’ve got one person saying you can just claim asylum anywhere which was lies

vast majority of illegal immigrants don’t come here via a visa because you don’t need one

they come by boats and then get houses in hotels

as for the black market. that’s why I don’t use any delivery company anymore

You can claim asylum anywhere.

The vast majority do come on a visa and overstay to become illegal. Even with the increased number in boats, overstay of visas still account for about 80% of all illegal immigrants in the UK.

Black market jobs represent about a 10th of the British economy. Your token protest of not using any delivery company is not making the slightest bit of difference.

 

[skybluetony176]

hate to be the person who tells you this

you come here without any documents you should be allowed to step foot on our soil

So with your thinking does that mean I can go Spain without a passport?

If you desire sure. Spain experiences double the amount of people arriving by small boats than us. Italy and Greece too. Hate to be the person who tells you this but this phenomenon of arriving by small boat’s is not exclusive to the UK.

 

[ccfc922]

If you desire sure. Spain experiences double the amount of people arriving by small boats than us. Italy and Greece too. Hate to be the person who tells you this but this phenomenon of arriving by small boat’s is not exclusive to the UK.

How many stay in Spain before moving to Calais to reach the promised land?

 

[wingy]

so you’ve got one person saying you can just claim asylum anywhere which was lies

vast majority of illegal immigrants don’t come here via a visa because you don’t need one

they come by boats and then get houses in hotels

as for the black market. that’s why I don’t use any delivery company anymore

Well that's the best thing,why would you want to simplify your life to that extent anyway and become dependent on getting a food delivery for example that just drains your money for some crap they turn out while stealing all the jobs of our youngsters?
Not being critical of you if that's not what you're referring to, what is it about ten years since these companies started up,no benefit to society at all.

 

[wingy]

If you desire sure. Spain experiences double the amount of people arriving by small boats than us. Italy and Greece too. Hate to be the person who tells you this but this phenomenon of arriving by small boat’s is not exclusive to the UK.

So it's globalised then,to help cater for the helpless young folk who barely do any cooking or shopping,get Uber to do it for you,as they keep reminding me.

 

[skybluetony176]

How many stay in Spain before moving to Calais to reach the promised land?

Clearly not all of them as less than half the numbers arriving in Spain cross to the UK before you even begin to factor in the numbers arriving in Italy or Greece. For comparison Spain also processed about 100k more asylum applications last year than the UK did. I doubt you’ll ever get a definitive number simply by the nature of the situation but indicators clearly show that the majority landing by small boats in mainland Europe are not making a beeline for Calais to cross to the “promised land”.

 

[ccfc922]

Clearly not all of them as less than half the numbers arriving in Spain cross to the UK before you even begin to factor in the numbers arriving in Italy or Greece. For comparison Spain also processed about 100k more asylum applications last year than the UK did. I doubt you’ll ever get a definitive number simply by the nature of the situation but indicators clearly show that the majority landing by small boats in mainland Europe are not making a beeline for Calais to cross to the “promised land”.

Now do the unprocessed

 

[chiefdave]

Just so I'm clear the proposal is that anyone who requests asylum that doesn't have a passport or visa is immediately removed from the country? Through what process and where to doesn't seem to have been mentioned. The only thing I can think of that comes close to allowing that is the Dublin Regulation but that no longer applies since we decided to leave the EU.

Has the been any indication of how we know that it is asylum seekers who have arrived with no documents that have been arrested in any / all of these cases or is that just an assumption?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Just so I'm clear the proposal is that anyone who requests asylum that doesn't have a passport or visa is immediately removed from the country? Through what process and where to doesn't seem to have been mentioned. The only thing I can think of that comes close to allowing that is the Dublin Regulation but that no longer applies since we decided to leave the EU.

Has the been any indication of how we know that it is asylum seekers who have arrived with no documents that have been arrested in any / all of these cases or is that just an assumption?

Simple answers to complex problems how hard can it be eh

 

[skybluetony176]

Now do the unprocessed

Based on what exactly? Spain processed more than landed in 2024. Same is true for Italy and Greece for that matter. Granted they’re not the only countries that have boat landings in mainland Europe but we’re really only getting the dregs.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

just in case you missed it
Do you want to discuss boring politics?

yes it is easy. You send them back to the last country they came from

If you come via illegal channels and have no documents then you get returned immediately

And how do you prove what country they came from? If they're on a small boat they could literally come from anywhere with a coastline and that country will undoubtedly dispute it.

And what's to stop those on small boats just floating out a bit into the sea off Calais, getting caught by French border control and then claiming they came on the boat from England. The French could then send them to us because that's supposedly the last country they came from.

It's really not that simple.

 

[skybluetony176]

It’s just a shame we left the Dublin arrangement in December 2020. It’s no coincidence that that numbers trebled the following year and have continued to climb ever since. If you’re looking for someone to blame blame the politicians who insisted we left that arrangement. Bloody Starmer… no wait, it wasn’t him. Bloody Khan… no wait, it wasn’t him either. Bloody lefty liberal, wokeraty… nope, not them either. Mmmm, I wonder who it could have been? I’ll give you a clue. They didn’t write on the side of a bus let’s leave the Dublin arrangement, that will make it near impossible to send people arriving by boats straight back, thus acting as a deterrent to attempt the journey in the first place leaving us lumbered with them and unlike us trafficking gangs are smart enough to understand that and can use it as a marketing tool.