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GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,461
mmttww said:
I'm not arguing with you. I answered a question you asked. You're not making an argument. You're telling people that they condone children being raped.
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1000s of undocumented men are entering the country being housed or occupying hotels and raping girls

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Here’s some stats. rapes in Uk rising year by year and Afghan have the highest rate

see the correlation?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,462
Grendel said:
Well I don’t see the difference
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Do they also falsely accuse people of supporting paedophiles?
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,463
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Do they also falsely accuse people of supporting paedophiles?
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Yes the guy accused Farage of supporting Jimmy Saville and strange men who prey on young children
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,464
Grendel said:
You once said your ashamed we have fans who took a different side to you once
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Not quite the same as telling individual posters that they're apologists for children being raped, but crack on!
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,465
fatso said:
Oh fucking great, so in reality the numbers planning to relocate here will in reality be more than double what we are currently experiencing?

Thats the end of our economy then, the end of the NHS, and state pensions, and the welfare state bankrupt.
How else are we to house more than double the current numbers? And who pays for it all???

And what "better accomodation" are you referring to? Where are the women and children being housed???

If its the rental market and/or council houses, then where do our own people go???

If rents go up or demand increases because of all the imigrant women and children being housed, what does that mean for our own young people and families???
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The numbers won't go up as when the first person over makes their asylum application they make it for all family members so the asylum figures are for the total number of applicants including family not currently in the county. So the latest years figures are 85,112 applications covering 109,343 asylum seekers.

If the economy, NHS, pensions and welfare state are all going to collapse as a result of asylum seekers then that suggests to me we've got much bigger problems than asylum seekers. Thats what, a 0.1% or 0.2% change in the population. If thats going to lead to the entire country collapsing there's something else wrong and asylum seekers are, it would seem successfully, being used as a distraction. Maybe we should instead be looking at why those things are on the verge of collapse.

I think there are people who like to present the situation as 'they are all coming here' which is very much not the case. We're not even close to being the top country in Europe, we're 17th per head of population.

Hotels are considered contingency accommodation, basically the last resort, as the cost is seven times higher than other types of accommodation. The UK has a far higher reliance on hotels and private accommodation than other European countries. The percentage of people housed in asylum centres, places like repurposed army barracks, has dropped. This is in part due to an increase in dispersal accommodation due to the huge percentage of applications taking over a year to process.

The idea of dispersal accommodation is that asylum seekers are spread around the country to improve integration and the process is supposed to involve an assessment of accommodation availability so you're not sending people where the accommodation is in short supply but of course we have a housing crisis so you could argue no areas of the country have available accommodation.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,466
Grendel said:
Yes the guy accused Farage of supporting Jimmy Saville and strange men who prey on young children
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…so he shouldn’t have done.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,467
Brighton Sky Blue said:
…so he shouldn’t have done.
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No but he’s still in his job so it’s not exactly deserving a ban

People are frequently accused as being racists, Nazi apologists etc on here
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,468
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Do they also falsely accuse people of supporting paedophiles?
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In the past few weeks we’ve heard of sexual assaults being committed by immigrants yet you don’t seem to have a problem instead you go down the holier than thou path saying these scumbags aren’t illegal

it’s mind boggling
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,469
GIMOC said:
if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem
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Asylum has been handled like sh*t since I can remember. All of it makes me angry. You think it's ok to tell people they're apologists for paedophiles because you're angry. I don't.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,470
mmttww said:
Asylum has been handled like sh*t since I can remember. All of it makes me angry. You think it's ok to tell people they're apologists for paedophiles because you're angry. I don't.
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Yet you are ashamed of being a supporter among with those who oppose terrorist groups. That’s made you angry.

Israel - Palestinian Conflict

Israel have now attacked southern Syria.
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,471
mmttww said:
Asylum has been handled like sh*t since I can remember. All of it makes me angry. You think it's ok to tell people they're apologists for paedophiles because you're angry. I don't.
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because you have clowns saying it’s dehumanising someone by calling them illegal immigrants but many of these people are raping girls up and down the country

enough is enough and ANYONE who still agrees or justifying Illegal immigrants are part of the problem

I want my girl growing up in a country where she doesn’t have to fear getting raped in board daylight
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,472
Grendel said:
No but he’s still in his job so it’s not exactly deserving a ban

People are frequently accused as being racists, Nazi apologists etc on here
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You once threatened to report someone to his employer because he accused you of racism.

I suspect if someone said you defended child rape you wouldn’t drop it. It’s libel.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,473
I’m amazed people aren’t aware of this

Nigel Farage urges minister to apologise for Jimmy Savile online safety claim - BBC News

Minister Peter Kyle claims that by opposing online safety laws the Reform UK leader is siding with sex offenders.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,474
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You once threatened to report someone to his employer because he accused you of racism.

I suspect if someone said you defended child rape you wouldn’t drop it. It’s libel.
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It was actually saying I groomed young children

It isn’t libel by the way
 

SBAndy

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,475
Grendel said:
No but he’s still in his job so it’s not exactly deserving a ban

People are frequently accused as being racists, Nazi apologists etc on here
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I can’t believe you’re trying to defend it to be honest. Well, actually, I can…
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,476
SBAndy said:
I can’t believe you’re trying to defend it to be honest. Well, actually, I can…
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Im not defending it but seriously someone once said on here I was only born as someone shoved a turkey baster up my mothers vagina (though he wasn’t as polite as that)

Im pointing out this happened recently against Farage and oddly no one on here cared. I wonder why
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,477
Grendel said:
It was actually saying I groomed young children

It isn’t libel by the way
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No, it was a certain poster and his ‘cousin’.
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,478
Grendel said:
Yet you are ashamed of being a supporter among with those who oppose terrorist groups. That’s made you angry.
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Yep, the government's response to Gaza makes me angry. People defending it does, too. Starving kids being used for target practice doesn't sit right either.

You taking a post that's about one particular group and spinning it as about 'terrorist groups' is about what I'd expect. Epic deflection and 'what about' chat.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,479
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No, it was a certain poster and his ‘cousin’.
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Yes and one of the comments was I was grooming Boosh on the premise of sexual activity.

As a teacher I believed that was somewhat strange.

He’s made a stupid comment - just ignore it
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,480
mmttww said:
Yep, the government's response to Gaza makes me angry. People defending it does, too. Starving kids being used for target practice doesn't sit right either.

You taking a post that's about one particular group and spinning it as about 'terrorist groups' is about what I'd expect. Epic deflection and 'what about' chat.
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You said it!
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,481
GIMOC said:
1000s of undocumented men are entering the country being housed or occupying hotels and raping girls

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Here’s some stats. rapes in Uk rising year by year and Afghan have the highest rate

see the correlation?View attachment 44984View attachment 44985
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isn’t it ironic that when stats are put in front of people no one can reply

instead they spout the usual holier than thou nonsense that it’s dehumanising to call people illegal immigrants
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,482
Grendel said:
Yes and one of the comments was I was grooming Boosh on the premise of sexual activity.

As a teacher I believed that was somewhat strange.

He’s made a stupid comment - just ignore it
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The other was about racism. Anyway, noted-you think people should be barred for not posting about football but not for making comments like his.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,483
GIMOC said:
because you have clowns saying it’s dehumanising someone by calling them illegal immigrants but many of these people are raping girls up and down the country

enough is enough and ANYONE who still agrees or justifying Illegal immigrants are part of the problem

I want my girl growing up in a country where she doesn’t have to fear getting raped in board daylight
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News flash white English people rape children
Not all people from outside of England rape children
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,484
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The other was about racism. Anyway, noted-you think people should be barred for not posting about football but not for making comments like his.
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One idiot said he was reporting me to the police as I’d hoped he got killed in a car crash.

Don’t be so sensitive
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,485
Sky Blue Pete said:
News flash white English people rape children
Not all people from outside of England rape children
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Obviously yes but it’s bit helpful as these people have been admitted to the country and provided accommodation - they are likely to have done this before - how is that helpful?
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,486
Another perfectly normal evening on SBT
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,487
Grendel said:
Obviously yes but it’s bit helpful as these people have been admitted to the country and provided accommodation - they are likely to have done this before - how is that helpful?
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What do you mean? All people on boats are guilty of child rape
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,488
GIMOC said:
1000s of undocumented men are entering the country being housed or occupying hotels and raping girls

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Here’s some stats. rapes in Uk rising year by year and Afghan have the highest rate

see the correlation?View attachment 44984View attachment 44985
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Do you know where the source data is for this as the website listed as the source doesn't seem to have it and it doesn't seem to match any government or cps statistics.

Closet thing I can find is this which is ethnicity not nationality:
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,489
Sky Blue Pete said:
What do you mean? All people on boats are guilty of child rape
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Er no. But they are unprocessed. Anyone who in this country has been guilty in the past of child molestation would not be allowed to be in any community - do the same safeguard apply to asylum seekers?
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,490
Sky Blue Pete said:
What do you mean? All people on boats are guilty of child rape
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I do also Pete find this a bit self righteous and patronising.

I’ve frequently said I’m not bothered by migration as it doesn’t bother me

Like everyone if you don’t have experience of issues why would it.

My youngest daughter now won’t walk past the hotel with the dog as people have jeered and made blatant sexual references to her from there.

I went with said dog and some drunken idiot said he would eat my dog

She actually isn’t overly intimidated but I think it’s probably best she takes a different route. A few weeks ago some guy was outside the shop asking for cash - then he became abusive as he wasn’t getting very much sympathy

Men are visiting the hotel for sex. It’s happening and no one cares.

I have lived here for the first 20 years of my life and the last 20 years

There has never been a single issue until migrants were accessing the hotels.

Why are you so self righteous- would you like your daughter to have someone ask to see her pussy when she’s walking the dog?
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,491
chiefdave said:
Do you know where the source data is for this as the website listed as the source doesn't seem to have it and it doesn't seem to match any government or cps statistics.

Closet thing I can find is this which is ethnicity not nationality:
View attachment 44987
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It doesn't add up at all.

The source of that graph says 77 Afghans were convicted of sexual offences then immediately shows that chart which says Afghans are convicted at a rate of 59.3 per 10000.

To get a rate that high the Afghan population in the UK would have to be circa 13k, when it's closer to 100k.
 

ccfc922

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,492
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Explain to me how a human is ‘illegal’.
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Jesus.
 

ccfc922

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,493
Grendel said:
I do also Pete find this a bit self righteous and patronising.

I’ve frequently said I’m not bothered by migration as it doesn’t bother me

Like everyone if you don’t have experience of issues why would it.

My youngest daughter now won’t walk past the hotel with the dog as people have jeered and made blatant sexual references to her from there.

I went with said dog and some drunken idiot said he would eat my dog

She actually isn’t overly intimidated but I think it’s probably best she takes a different route. A few weeks ago some guy was outside the shop asking for cash - then he became abusive as he wasn’t getting very much sympathy

Men are visiting the hotel for sex. It’s happening and no one cares.

I have lived here for the first 20 years of my life and the last 20 years

There has never been a single issue until migrants were accessing the hotels.

Why are you so self righteous- would you like your daughter to have someone ask to see her pussy when she’s walking the dog?
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That never has ever happened you bigot!!

Everyone of them just wants a better life!!!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,494
ccfc922 said:
Jesus.
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Ironically he would probably not be allowed in by half the people on here
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,495
ccfc922 said:
That never has ever happened you bigot!!

Everyone of them just wants a better life!!!
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Not in the one hotel it doesn’t - which PVA refuses to name

How interesting
 
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