Do you want to discuss boring politics? (29 Viewers)

[mmttww]

why am I piece of shit

You're using horrible sh*t that's been done to children to score internet points on a football forum.

 

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[Grendel]

You're using horrible sh*t that's been done to children to score internet points on a football forum.

Well labour MPs do that

 

[GIMOC]

You're using horrible sh*t that's been done to children to score internet points on a football forum.

points scoring? to who?

stating facts

Worse excuse I know when people say points scoring that’s when you know someone losing an argument

 

[mmttww]

Well labour MPs do that

I don't think Labour MPs post on here. If you're looking for someone to defend MPs of any persuasion so you can get into it and do the deflection dance, you're talking to the wrong bloke.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well labour MPs do that

What relevance does that have even if it’s true?

 

[Grendel]

I don't think Labour MPs post on here. If you're looking for someone to defend MPs of any persuasion so you can get into it and do the deflection dance, you're talking to the wrong bloke.

Hardly a deflection dance. This is a forum with posters using silly names. Not the same As a cabinet member sayin anyone opposing his law supports Jimmy Saville

 

[mmttww]

Worse excuse I know when people say points scoring that’s when you know someone losing an argument

I'm not arguing with you. I answered a question you asked. You're not making an argument. You're telling people that they condone children being raped.

 

[Grendel]

I'm not arguing with you. I answered a question you asked. You're not making an argument, either. You're telling people that they condone children being raped.

You once said your ashamed we have fans who took a different side to you once

 

[Grendel]

What relevance does that have even if it’s true?

Well I don’t see the difference

 

[GIMOC]

I'm not arguing with you. I answered a question you asked. You're not making an argument. You're telling people that they condone children being raped.

1000s of undocumented men are entering the country being housed or occupying hotels and raping girls

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Here’s some stats. rapes in Uk rising year by year and Afghan have the highest rate

see the correlation?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well I don’t see the difference

Do they also falsely accuse people of supporting paedophiles?

 

[Grendel]

Do they also falsely accuse people of supporting paedophiles?

Yes the guy accused Farage of supporting Jimmy Saville and strange men who prey on young children

 

[mmttww]

You once said your ashamed we have fans who took a different side to you once

Not quite the same as telling individual posters that they're apologists for children being raped, but crack on!

 

[chiefdave]

Oh fucking great, so in reality the numbers planning to relocate here will in reality be more than double what we are currently experiencing?

Thats the end of our economy then, the end of the NHS, and state pensions, and the welfare state bankrupt.
How else are we to house more than double the current numbers? And who pays for it all???

And what "better accomodation" are you referring to? Where are the women and children being housed???

If its the rental market and/or council houses, then where do our own people go???

If rents go up or demand increases because of all the imigrant women and children being housed, what does that mean for our own young people and families???

The numbers won't go up as when the first person over makes their asylum application they make it for all family members so the asylum figures are for the total number of applicants including family not currently in the county. So the latest years figures are 85,112 applications covering 109,343 asylum seekers.

If the economy, NHS, pensions and welfare state are all going to collapse as a result of asylum seekers then that suggests to me we've got much bigger problems than asylum seekers. Thats what, a 0.1% or 0.2% change in the population. If thats going to lead to the entire country collapsing there's something else wrong and asylum seekers are, it would seem successfully, being used as a distraction. Maybe we should instead be looking at why those things are on the verge of collapse.

I think there are people who like to present the situation as 'they are all coming here' which is very much not the case. We're not even close to being the top country in Europe, we're 17th per head of population.

Hotels are considered contingency accommodation, basically the last resort, as the cost is seven times higher than other types of accommodation. The UK has a far higher reliance on hotels and private accommodation than other European countries. The percentage of people housed in asylum centres, places like repurposed army barracks, has dropped. This is in part due to an increase in dispersal accommodation due to the huge percentage of applications taking over a year to process.

The idea of dispersal accommodation is that asylum seekers are spread around the country to improve integration and the process is supposed to involve an assessment of accommodation availability so you're not sending people where the accommodation is in short supply but of course we have a housing crisis so you could argue no areas of the country have available accommodation.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes the guy accused Farage of supporting Jimmy Saville and strange men who prey on young children

…so he shouldn’t have done.

 

[Grendel]

…so he shouldn’t have done.

No but he’s still in his job so it’s not exactly deserving a ban

People are frequently accused as being racists, Nazi apologists etc on here

 

[GIMOC]

Do they also falsely accuse people of supporting paedophiles?

In the past few weeks we’ve heard of sexual assaults being committed by immigrants yet you don’t seem to have a problem instead you go down the holier than thou path saying these scumbags aren’t illegal

it’s mind boggling

 

[mmttww]

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Asylum has been handled like sh*t since I can remember. All of it makes me angry. You think it's ok to tell people they're apologists for paedophiles because you're angry. I don't.

 

[Grendel]

Asylum has been handled like sh*t since I can remember. All of it makes me angry. You think it's ok to tell people they're apologists for paedophiles because you're angry. I don't.

Yet you are ashamed of being a supporter among with those who oppose terrorist groups. That’s made you angry.

Israel - Palestinian Conflict

Israel have now attacked southern Syria.

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

 

[GIMOC]

Asylum has been handled like sh*t since I can remember. All of it makes me angry. You think it's ok to tell people they're apologists for paedophiles because you're angry. I don't.

because you have clowns saying it’s dehumanising someone by calling them illegal immigrants but many of these people are raping girls up and down the country

enough is enough and ANYONE who still agrees or justifying Illegal immigrants are part of the problem

I want my girl growing up in a country where she doesn’t have to fear getting raped in board daylight

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No but he’s still in his job so it’s not exactly deserving a ban

People are frequently accused as being racists, Nazi apologists etc on here

You once threatened to report someone to his employer because he accused you of racism.

I suspect if someone said you defended child rape you wouldn’t drop it. It’s libel.

 

[Grendel]

I’m amazed people aren’t aware of this

Nigel Farage urges minister to apologise for Jimmy Savile online safety claim - BBC News

Minister Peter Kyle claims that by opposing online safety laws the Reform UK leader is siding with sex offenders.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Grendel]

You once threatened to report someone to his employer because he accused you of racism.

I suspect if someone said you defended child rape you wouldn’t drop it. It’s libel.

It was actually saying I groomed young children

It isn’t libel by the way

 

[SBAndy]

No but he’s still in his job so it’s not exactly deserving a ban

People are frequently accused as being racists, Nazi apologists etc on here

I can’t believe you’re trying to defend it to be honest. Well, actually, I can…

 

[Grendel]

I can’t believe you’re trying to defend it to be honest. Well, actually, I can…

Im not defending it but seriously someone once said on here I was only born as someone shoved a turkey baster up my mothers vagina (though he wasn’t as polite as that)

Im pointing out this happened recently against Farage and oddly no one on here cared. I wonder why

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It was actually saying I groomed young children

It isn’t libel by the way

No, it was a certain poster and his ‘cousin’.

 

[mmttww]

Yet you are ashamed of being a supporter among with those who oppose terrorist groups. That’s made you angry.

Yep, the government's response to Gaza makes me angry. People defending it does, too. Starving kids being used for target practice doesn't sit right either.

You taking a post that's about one particular group and spinning it as about 'terrorist groups' is about what I'd expect. Epic deflection and 'what about' chat.

 

[Grendel]

No, it was a certain poster and his ‘cousin’.

Yes and one of the comments was I was grooming Boosh on the premise of sexual activity.

As a teacher I believed that was somewhat strange.

He’s made a stupid comment - just ignore it

 

[Grendel]

Yep, the government's response to Gaza makes me angry. People defending it does, too. Starving kids being used for target practice doesn't sit right either.

You taking a post that's about one particular group and spinning it as about 'terrorist groups' is about what I'd expect. Epic deflection and 'what about' chat.

You said it!

 

[GIMOC]

1000s of undocumented men are entering the country being housed or occupying hotels and raping girls

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Here’s some stats. rapes in Uk rising year by year and Afghan have the highest rate

see the correlation?View attachment 44984View attachment 44985

isn’t it ironic that when stats are put in front of people no one can reply

instead they spout the usual holier than thou nonsense that it’s dehumanising to call people illegal immigrants

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes and one of the comments was I was grooming Boosh on the premise of sexual activity.

As a teacher I believed that was somewhat strange.

He’s made a stupid comment - just ignore it

The other was about racism. Anyway, noted-you think people should be barred for not posting about football but not for making comments like his.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

because you have clowns saying it’s dehumanising someone by calling them illegal immigrants but many of these people are raping girls up and down the country

enough is enough and ANYONE who still agrees or justifying Illegal immigrants are part of the problem

I want my girl growing up in a country where she doesn’t have to fear getting raped in board daylight

News flash white English people rape children
Not all people from outside of England rape children

 

[Grendel]

The other was about racism. Anyway, noted-you think people should be barred for not posting about football but not for making comments like his.

One idiot said he was reporting me to the police as I’d hoped he got killed in a car crash.

Don’t be so sensitive

 

[Grendel]

News flash white English people rape children
Not all people from outside of England rape children

Obviously yes but it’s bit helpful as these people have been admitted to the country and provided accommodation - they are likely to have done this before - how is that helpful?

 

[chiefdave]

Another perfectly normal evening on SBT