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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (13 Viewers)

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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 9:25 AM
  • #53,726
PVA said:
You can dislike the bloke all you want and you can think he's a shit PM if you like, that's fine.

But to compare the careers of him and Johnson and say they're morally and integrally similar people is just utterly absurd.
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He’s gone from being the deputy leader under Corbyn to being the most right-wing Labour leader in history. He’s using phrases like “an island of strangers” to talk about the ‘dangers’ of immigration - he’ll do and say whatever he needs to in order to try to retain power.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Yesterday at 9:34 AM
  • #53,727
I think some would back a team of Fred West and Josef Fritzl if they wore a Labour badge. It's weird.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 9:40 AM
  • #53,728
Sky Blue Pete said:
To say he’s risen to the roles he has by looking at what’s popular and doing it is just bollox
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It isn't. He was elected leader of the party based on a pack of lies.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 10:07 AM
  • #53,729
Sick Boy said:
he’ll do and say whatever he needs to in order to try to retain power.
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Newsflash - that's what leaders do.

And yet he still hasn't cheated and lied his way through life, been sacked in every job he's ever had etc etc. Again, to compare the two's character is ridiculous.

Starmer has contributed to this country, Johnson is a stain on it.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 10:10 AM
  • #53,730
PVA said:
Newsflash - that's what leaders do.

And yet he still hasn't cheated and lied his way through life, been sacked in every job he's ever had etc etc. Again, to compare the two's character is ridiculous.

Starmer has contributed to this country, Johnson is a stain on it.
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Nowhere have I compared their character; that’s something you’ve made up.

My comment was that he’s changed his opinion/view/principles based on what he thinks popular and will help him retain power - something that you seem to think is acceptable in a leader.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 10:12 AM
  • #53,731
Sick Boy said:
Nowhere have I compared their character; that’s something you’ve made up.
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Erm, you questioned his integrity and compared it to Johnson's.

That is quite literally comparing their character
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 10:15 AM
  • #53,732
PVA said:
Erm, you questioned his integrity and compared it to Johnson's.

That is quite literally comparing their character
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To be clear, I think Starmer is a man of next to no principles but Johnson is a charlatan.
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 10:15 AM
  • #53,733
PVA said:
Erm, you questioned his integrity and compared it to Johnson's.

That is quite literally comparing their character
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He has no integrity regarding his politics
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 10:30 AM
  • #53,734
PVA says being a liar is OK as that's what leaders must do to retain power
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 10:35 AM
  • #53,735
 
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rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 10:37 AM
  • #53,736
Brilliant, we're now arguing over which party has the biggest bunch of cunts. Do you not get it? You don't get to be in those positions unless you're a total prick initially on a local level and then on a party level, treading over all and sundry in your way to get you to the top. There are no colours in this and I include Reform, Lib dem and Independent too. All out to feather their own nest and anyone who thinks differently is delusional.

All we can hope is that whichever bunch of corrupt, backtracking lying charlatans cheat their way into power, that throughout their tenure, they do some things that we agree with and like. I may be cynical and it might be a terrible indictment on our political system, but they're all cunts.

... even with all that said, most of Europe is similar and yet still probably the least corrupt continent for power and authority. The world is fucked, try to have some fun on your way through.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 10:38 AM
  • #53,737
 
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rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 10:38 AM
  • #53,738
I only had to hear the way Starmer said 'Coventry' before he was in power to know I didn't like the corrupt little weasel.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 10:40 AM
  • #53,739
fernandopartridge said:
PVA says being a liar is OK as that's what leaders must do to retain power
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Desperate times for the sycophants.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 11:03 AM
  • #53,740
fernandopartridge said:
PVA says being a liar is OK as that's what leaders must do to retain power
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I didn't say it was OK, but crack on.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 11:04 AM
  • #53,741
Sick Boy said:
Desperate times for the sycophants.
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Ironic when you've just claimed you didn't say something that is there in black and white.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 11:07 AM
  • #53,742
PVA said:
Ironic when you've just claimed you didn't say something that is there in black and white.
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You went on for years about Johnson’s lies yet now it’s acceptable for Starmer and something that leaders just do.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 11:11 AM
  • #53,743
Starmer is doing that bad a job I'm surprised Grendel hasn't started referring to him by his full name like he does with Anthony Charles Lynton Blair
 

rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 11:18 AM
  • #53,744
Ccfcisparks said:
Starmer is doing that bad a job I'm surprised Grendel hasn't started referring to him by his full name like he does with Anthony Charles Lynton Blair
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Ccfcisparks said:
I’d suggest that’s because Mr Yaxley Lennon is a bad ming
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 11:19 AM
  • #53,745
rob9872 said:
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Yes Stephen Yaxley Lennon is doing a terrible job I'm glad you agree Rob!!
 

chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 11:20 AM
  • #53,746

Voting age to be lowered to 16 by next general election​


Around 1.5 million 16 and 17-year-olds will be able to vote at the next general election, under government plans to lower the voting age.

Democracy Minister Rushanara Ali tells the BBC the "seismic" change will ensure young people's voices are heard.

She confirms the pledge will be part of a raft of measures introduced through a new Elections Bill.
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rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 11:22 AM
  • #53,747
Ccfcisparks said:
Yes Stephen Yaxley Lennon is doing a terrible job I'm glad you agree Rob!!
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He's a c**t, I just hate it when people use his name the same with Blair, Johnson etc. We all know who they are, it's just a terrible version of oneupmanship (imo) a bit like I also hate the terms: Gammon, snowflake, woke, Karen etc etc.

Sorry I realise I'm just a miserable old curmudgeon!
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 11:23 AM
  • #53,748
Loads of assumptions that they’re going to vote Labour but if Corbyn does launch a new party, I could see that and Reform being the two biggest parties for that age group.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 11:25 AM
  • #53,749
Sick Boy said:
Loads of assumptions that they’re going to vote Labour but if Corbyn does launch a new party, I could see that and Reform being the two biggest parties for that age group.
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would be absolutely hilarious if Labour changed the rules thinking it will gain them votes then the majority of the votes go to other parties.
 
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rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 11:25 AM
  • #53,750
Sick Boy said:
Loads of assumptions that they’re going to vote Labour but if Corbyn does launch a new party, I could see that and Reform being the two biggest parties for that age group.
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I'm not sure. They might be new and fresh, but the young possibly aren't as fed up with what's going on and as disenfranchised with the main offering as adults are. I can see Green being the biggest winners there.

Having said that, my daughter is nearly 18. No interest, knows nothing about politics and beyond Starmer couldn't name a politician on either side of the house.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 11:25 AM
  • #53,751
Sick Boy said:
Loads of assumptions that they’re going to vote Labour but if Corbyn does launch a new party, I could see that and Reform being the two biggest parties for that age group.
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10000% reform will get a lot more voters from that generation than people realise.

Social media and Tiktok are making an extremely racist generation
 
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shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 11:31 AM
  • #53,752
Sick Boy said:
Yeah because Starmer is doing a great job.
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Don’t you live in Italy?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 11:32 AM
  • #53,753
shmmeee said:
Don’t you live in Italy?
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Ah ok forgot you can't comment on politics if you dont live in that country.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 11:32 AM
  • #53,754
shmmeee said:
Don’t you live in Italy?
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Does that exclude me from being able to take part in conversations about it?
 

shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 11:35 AM
  • #53,755
Sick Boy said:
Does that exclude me from being able to take part in conversations about it?
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No just informs your input is all.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 11:37 AM
  • #53,756
shmmeee said:
No just informs your input is all.
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Hahaha classic.
 

shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 11:38 AM
  • #53,757
Sick Boy said:
Hahaha classic.
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Would you give my opinion as much weight as yours on Italian politics?
 

rob9872

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  • Yesterday at 11:38 AM
  • #53,758
Ccfcisparks said:
Social media and Tiktok are making an extremely racist generation
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I'm not sure that's true (possibly your feed lol) in seriousness, maybe the things you engage with. My daughter's main follows (apart from the City of course she's been brought up well ) are all Central Cee, Sidemen, Jude Bellingham, Gavi (although that's because she fancies the latter two!).

Her main friendship group is way more diverse than mine in colour, religion and sexuality. In fact brought it home to me when I thought of characteristics that I'd describe someone with, even friends, I'd have said the ginger guy, the fat guy, the black guy, the bald guy, the tall guy etc. I collected her from her best mate's house who is Columbian, at the same time three lads came out, one Asian, one black, one white and that's how I'd have described them if asked, nothing racist just an observation (btw it's not a modern take one an Englishman, Irishman, Scot's man joke ). She said something about 'Curran' I said which one is Curran, and she replied 'the one with the grey jumper'. Of course she's right and I'm wrong, but the fact she didn't see it and made that observation, made me question my own sub-conscious.

Appreciate that's a very small sample size and not everyone is the same, but I believe lots more of it in her generation and I think older generations are way more racist, social media etc has just given a platform where posters think they can be anonymous and say what they wouldn't say in the 'real world' and think it has no consequences.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 11:39 AM
  • #53,759
rob9872 said:
I'm not sure that's true (possibly your feed lol) in seriousness, maybe the things you engage with. My daughter's main follows (apart from the City of course she's been brought up well ) are all Central Cee, Sidemen, Jude Bellingham, Gavi (although that's because she fancies the latter two!).

Her main friendship group is way more diverse than mine in colour, religion and sexuality. In fact brought it home to me when I thought of characteristics that I'd describe someone with, even friends, I'd have said the ginger guy, the fat guy, the black guy, the bald guy, the tall guy etc. I collected her from her best mate's house who is Columbian, at the same time three lads came out, one Asian, one black, one white and that's how I'd have described them if asked, nothing racist just an observation (btw it's not a modern take one an Englishman, Irishman, Scot's man joke ). She said something about 'Curran' I said which one is Curran, and she replied 'the one with the grey jumper'. Of course she's right and I'm wrong, but the fact she didn't see it and made that observation, made me question my own sub-conscious.

Appreciate that's a very small sample size and not everyone is the same, but I believe lots more of it in her generation and I think older generations are way more racist, social media etc has just given a platform where posters think they can be anonymous and say what they wouldn't say in the 'real world' and think it has no consequences.
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Yes potentially. I agree wiht your last point. I think it does give people a position to say it anonymously which is why I think there appears to be a rise in it. I tried to limit my X account to not see that crap but it seems like its just thrown in your face at the moment!!
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 11:40 AM
  • #53,760
shmmeee said:
Would you give my opinion as much weight as yours on Italian politics?
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I would do if you’d spent most of your life living in Italy, were born in Italy and had an active interest in Italy and Italian politics, yes.
 
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