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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (24 Viewers)

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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 8:09 AM
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rob9872 said:
Not because you are lol.
Corbyn, Sultana, Lynch
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Corbyn is the leader, that Gary Barlow if you will. The girls love him and he’s clearly the one at the forefront.

Sultana is the eye candy, nice to look at, but don’t get on the wrong side of her because she has a fiery side

Mick is the enforcer, the strong silent type. Doesn’t say much, but he gets the job done. Deep down he’s a lover at heart though. He just needs someone to break through that tough eco-skeleton
 
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Mcbean

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  • Today at 11:02 AM
  • #53,622
i will support anyone who will bring down the current bunch of muppets in charge - for that one and only reason and my support will end when that happens
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 11:04 AM
  • #53,623
Mcbean said:
i will support anyone who will bring down the current bunch of muppets in charge - for that one and only reason and my support will end when that happens
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The politics of a toddler at dinner.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Today at 11:05 AM
  • #53,624
rob9872 said:
Corbyn, Sultana, Lynch
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3 at the back? Going to need some decent backups. Not sure Corbyn has the stamina for every game and Lynch is bound to get himself sent off and suspended.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Today at 11:06 AM
  • #53,625
shmmeee said:
The politics of a toddler at dinner.
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similar to many politicians then
 

rob9872

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  • Today at 11:08 AM
  • #53,626
Scargill and Kinnock in front of the back 3 so will need some pace out wide. I reckon Thunberg and Owen Jones could add that with their youth as two of my other hated individuals. Ed Miliband in the 10, Blair up top.
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 11:08 AM
  • #53,627
Strange word that Income/incoming.
 

tisza

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  • Today at 11:43 AM
  • #53,628
I reckon we'll see more independent Muslim MPs (double figures) in next Parliament than MPs from the new Corbyn/Sultana/Lynch party. Whether they align with traditional Labour, the new party or form an independent bloc remains to be seen.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Today at 12:09 PM
  • #53,629
shmmeee said:
The politics of a toddler at dinner.
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Thanks Mr Labour at all costs no matter how they screw us.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Today at 12:11 PM
  • #53,630
Mcbean said:
i will support anyone who will bring down the current bunch of muppets in charge - for that one and only reason and my support will end when that happens
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They’re doing a decent job of that themselves.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Today at 12:12 PM
  • #53,631
tisza said:
I reckon we'll see more independent Muslim MPs (double figures) in next Parliament than MPs from the new Corbyn/Sultana/Lynch party. Whether they align with traditional Labour, the new party or form an independent bloc remains to be seen.
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But... but .. diversity is our strength innit?

We'll see how it pans out, I doubt anyone can predict right now, I'd actually be surprised if Sultana holds on to her seat.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 12:16 PM
  • #53,632
Captain Dart said:
Thanks Mr Labour at all costs no matter how they screw us.
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No worries Mr “any old crank who tells me I don’t have to face difficult choices”
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 12:29 PM
  • #53,633
tisza said:
I reckon we'll see more independent Muslim MPs (double figures) in next Parliament than MPs from the new Corbyn/Sultana/Lynch party. Whether they align with traditional Labour, the new party or form an independent bloc remains to be seen.
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Which constituencies? Would be pretty unprecedented given how small and concentrated the Muslim vote is, I don’t see how double figures is feasible at all.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 12:39 PM
  • #53,634
SBT said:
Which constituencies? Would be pretty unprecedented given how small and concentrated the Muslim vote is, I don’t see how double figures is feasible at all.
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There are three majority Muslim constituencies in the UK and all have a Labour MP who won against a Muslim independent in 2024.
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 1:03 PM
  • #53,635
shmmeee said:
There are three majority Muslim constituencies in the UK and all have a Labour MP who won against a Muslim independent in 2024.
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I suspect people are somewhat overestimating both the size of the Muslim population and the coherence/importance of ‘the Muslim vote’.
 

tisza

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  • Today at 1:06 PM
  • #53,636
Captain Dart said:
But... but .. diversity is our strength innit?

We'll see how it pans out, I doubt anyone can predict right now, I'd actually be surprised if Sultana holds on to her seat.
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Purely based on recent voting patterns - local and national.
SBT said:
Which constituencies? Would be pretty unprecedented given how small and concentrated the Muslim vote is, I don’t see how double figures is feasible at all.
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twenty constituencies with at least 30% Muslim population.
shmmeee said:
There are three majority Muslim constituencies in the UK and all have a Labour MP who won against a Muslim independent in 2024.
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2 of those by the skin of their teeth - vote share from previous elections halved. 2 where if just 1 independent Muslim had stood (rather than 2 or more) they'd have lost their seats.
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 1:12 PM
  • #53,637
tisza said:
twenty constituencies with at least 30% Muslim population.
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30% vote share isn’t always enough to win a seat, assuming that every eligible Muslim votes for the same candidate, which they won’t.
 

tisza

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  • Today at 1:13 PM
  • #53,638
SBT said:
I suspect people are somewhat overestimating both the size of the Muslim population and the coherence/importance of ‘the Muslim vote’.
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Estimated to be in the region of 3.5 million voters by next general election. As for cohesion it has traditionally tended to be in the 75% + for Labour
 

tisza

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  • Today at 1:23 PM
  • #53,639
SBT said:
30% vote share isn’t always enough to win a seat, assuming that every eligible Muslim votes for the same candidate, which they won’t.
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nearly 40 seats were won with less than a 33% share last GE. You're also making an assumption that non-Muslims wouldn't vote for an independent Muslim candidate.
Entering a new age where traditional voting patterns are falling away.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 3:16 PM
  • #53,640
tisza said:
Purely based on recent voting patterns - local and national.

twenty constituencies with at least 30% Muslim population.

2 of those by the skin of their teeth - vote share from previous elections halved. 2 where if just 1 independent Muslim had stood (rather than 2 or more) they'd have lost their seats.
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Voters aren’t Lego and you don’t know how people would have voted with different parties or different narratives going in.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 3:18 PM
  • #53,641
tisza said:
nearly 40 seats were won with less than a 33% share last GE. You're also making an assumption that non-Muslims wouldn't vote for an independent Muslim candidate.
Entering a new age where traditional voting patterns are falling away.
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I think you’re vastly overestimating the number of people who want to vote for openly religious regressive and misogynistic candidates tbh.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Today at 3:27 PM
  • #53,642
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Serious issues for anybody that would vote for a party with them 2 clowns in, be hilarious when they split the vote though
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Then you say you're going to vote for a party made up entirely of clowns.
 

Mcbean

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  • Today at 3:53 PM
  • #53,643
It’s kept Khan in power as Londons Mayor
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 4:27 PM
  • #53,644
Mcbean said:
It’s kept Khan in power as Londons Mayor
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He won by 11%! It’s a largely irrelevant constituency.
 
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