Child grooming is a crime in itself and can carry a sentence of 10 years alone
Pretty bold statement. Using the actions of few to slur many is what it looks like.The reality is that the authorities just didn’t want to deal with these crimes because it had pretty significant ramifications for the image of Britain as a successful multicultural society. It was far easier to blame the victims.
It's like they can't admit that gangs of Pakistani Muslim men have been conducting organised rape and sexual abuse of our children.
Pretty bold statement. Using the actions of few to slur many is what it looks like.
1 in 16 men in Rotherham commit sexual abuse?! THat is mental.1 in 16 men in Rotherham isn’t the actions of a few unfortunately.
1 in 16 men in Rotherham...
What?!1 in 16 men in Rotherham isn’t the actions of a few unfortunately.
That's about 8,000 men based on Rotherham's population. You sure that's accurate?
1 in 16 men in Rotherham commit sexual abuse?! THat is mental.
What?!
Maybe im misunderstanding this. Is it saying 1 of 16 men arrested are of Pakistani origin?To clarify, it’s specifically up to 1 in 16 men of Pakistani origin (15+). Based on number of suspects who had been arrested (160) and population as of the 2011 census (2,529).
In the area, it made up 64% of all the gang rape cases. Very uncomfortable facts to deal with.
Maybe im misunderstanding this. Is it saying 1 of 16 men arrested are of Pakistani origin?
or 1 of 16 Pakistani men have been arrested on suspicion in Rotherham?
i guess suspect is the interesting word. What percentage of those suspected were convicted?The second line is correct.
In the whole country?1 in 16 men in Rotherham isn’t the actions of a few unfortunately.
Based on number of suspects who had been arrested (160) and population as of the 2011 census (2,529).
In the whole country?
Everything about what happened there and everywhere else is f*cking horrific. You don't need to misrepresent it with numbers you made up (1 in 16).
There’s no misrepresentation at all.
Which report, as the only reference I can find to it is an old Telegraph article which makes a fair few assumptions to arrive at that figureThe numbers are extracted from the report. There’s no misrepresentation at all.
What happened in Rotherham is well documented, but I see this leading into an attempt to smear British Muslims as a whole. Which some here are itching to do.This is Rotherham specifically. It’s also interesting that the Casey Report debunked the 2020 Home Office report that stated ‘white men’ were the majority of sex offenders was based on no credible evidence or data. Yet, this phrase was often cited by ‘the establishment’, Emily Maitlis called Rupert Lowe a racist for making this link… she must be feeling v silly right now.
Even Susanna Reid parroted this on GMB this last week too before the report dropped.
Come on, there was in your first post. If there wasn't you wouldn't have had to make follow-up posts qualifying it. Just feels cheap to make sensational looking claims about something this sh*t. It's horrible enough to speak for itself.
Your numbers that focused on the no. of suspects vs. the no. of the population that was Muslim (2011) does the job of pointing out how endemic this was to a specific community. No hiding from that. Why post the first thing? Don't get it.
Which report, as the only reference I can find to it is an old Telegraph article which makes a fair few assumptions to arrive at that figure
It is pretty clear that I am on about local cases being used to smear people nationally. It is choosing to judge a whole community by the worst among it.Actually, no.
The context was that BSB had said ‘using the actions of a few as a slur for many’… I’m pretty confident we were on the same page we were talking about Pakistani men that was specifically looked at in the report.
The confusion that’s been caused is when I said ‘1 in 16 men in Rotherham’ which other people have misinterpreted as all men in Rotherham. It was an error that wasn’t clarified for the wider audience.
To which BSB asked if it was national, I then specifically said only Rotherham.
Those numbers are from the Telegraph, which cites National Crime Agency data from 2018.
In the Casey report, it breaks down similar statistics where 64% of 323 designated suspects were of Pakistani origin. Which tracks with what the Telegraph reported on in Jan.
What happened in Rotherham is well documented, but I see this leading into an attempt to smear British Muslims as a whole. Which some here are itching to do.
Classy of you to put the blame on other people for “misinterpreting” that!The confusion that’s been caused is when I said ‘1 in 16 men in Rotherham’ which other people have misinterpreted as all men in Rotherham.
Classy of you to put the blame on other people for “misinterpreting” that!
What a load of bollocks. Those famous upholders of racial equality the police were bothered about Britain's image as a successful multicultural societyThe reality is that the authorities just didn’t want to deal with these crimes because it had pretty significant ramifications for the image of Britain as a successful multicultural society. It was far easier to blame the victims.
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No mucca suggested that it's multiculturalism on the whole, even wider than just MuslimsI don’t see anyone trying to do that at all
What a load of bollocks. Those famous upholders of racial equality the police were bothered about Britain's image as a successful multicultural society
Are you seriously suggesting the actions of a very specific ethnicity means that multiculturalism is wrong?
It wasn't dismissed, it's genuinely been in the news for at least 15 years and the ethnicity of the gangs has been the greater focus of it, not the wellbeing of the victims. It is probably 10 years since I read the book by Girl A!It’s not just the police. It’s the local and national establishments. For years any discussion around the ethnicity of grooming gangs was dismissed as racist by polite society.
If we can’t be honest about the ethnicity and/or nationalities of perpetrators of crime and have difficult conversations, then clearly multiculturalism is failing. Again, multiculturalism only works if everyone integrates and it’s not apparent that everyone is.
It wasn't dismissed, it's genuinely been in the news for at least 15 years and the ethnicity of the gangs has been the greater focus of it, not the wellbeing of the victims. It is probably 10 years since I read the book by Girl A!
Lots of people have gone to jail for it. What do you think needs to be done about it? Can you please spell it out.This is gaslighting Fernando. The government called out anyone calling for a national inquiry on this ‘jumping on the far right bandwagon’.
What’s been done about it? Nothing. Anyone found to be complicit/incompetent in this issue needs to be jailed.
It’s only off the back of this report that 800 cold cases will be reopened.
If we can’t be honest about the ethnicity and/or nationalities of perpetrators of crime and have difficult conversations, then clearly multiculturalism is failing. Again, multiculturalism only works if everyone integrates and it’s not apparent that everyone is.
Who ensured the report was doneThis is gaslighting Fernando. The government called out anyone calling for a national inquiry on this ‘jumping on the far right bandwagon’.
What’s been done about it? Nothing. Anyone found to be complicit/incompetent in this issue needs to be jailed.
It’s only off the back of this report that 800 cold cases will be reopened.
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