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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (19 Viewers)

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wingy

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  • Jun 6, 2021
  • #4,481
Grendel said:
It is funny. Blair may be a busted flush and clearly spends far too much time under a sun lounger but on the Marr show he was followed by the insipid Nandy and then Percy from Blackadder

it’s very obvious even now the old snake oil salesman would attract more votes than any of the losers the dead Labour club appoint.
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Snake oil sales was exactly what went through my head after your previous post.
Most efficient, I think coupled with a huge intellect.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2021
  • #4,482
"Scroungers, lefty lawyers... the Tories duck scrutiny by inventing enemies | Boris Johnson | The Guardian" Scroungers, lefty lawyers... the Tories duck scrutiny by inventing enemies | Boris Johnson | The Guardian
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2021
  • #4,483
wingy said:
"Scroungers, lefty lawyers... the Tories duck scrutiny by inventing enemies | Boris Johnson | The Guardian" Scroungers, lefty lawyers... the Tories duck scrutiny by inventing enemies | Boris Johnson | The Guardian
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Worryingly true.

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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2021
  • #4,484
Literally what the actual fuck.


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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2021
  • #4,485
stupot07 said:
Literally what the actual fuck.


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Next move to privatise NHS. If she was in charge it'd perform so badly it'd give those wanting it abolished tons of ammunition, blaming the set-up rather than the serial failure at it's head.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 6, 2021
  • #4,486
stupot07 said:
Literally what the actual fuck.


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Amazing how rewarding failure is ok when it suits
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 6, 2021
  • #4,487
stupot07 said:
Literally what the actual fuck.


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Remember when the Tories put Jimmy Savile in charge of hospitals and you thought that they couldn’t find anyone else worse to be NHS management.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,488

The government never backs away from the opportunity to stoke the culture war.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,489
What the fuck has it got to do with the state?

This fucking government: kids starving/losing education “sorry nothing we can do invisible hand lol”, someone not sufficiently following the governments personal views on social matters: “time to wheel out the massive force of the state”.

They can all piss right off.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,490
shmmeee said:
What the fuck has it got to do with the state?

This fucking government: kids starving/losing education “sorry nothing we can do invisible hand lol”, someone not sufficiently following the governments personal views on social matters: “time to wheel out the massive force of the state”.

They can all piss right off.
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It all knits together
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,491
Skybluefaz said:

It all knits together
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Terrorist synthesizer
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,492
Skybluefaz said:

It all knits together
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Laughing hard at that to be fair
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,493
Yes , I'd rather old Boris and the tories concentrated on actual issues , rather than getting involved in player knee bending and racist tweets from 1867.

Floppy haired Penis
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,494
Wasn’t that impressed until it got to “the gaffer just said go out there and destroy the nuclear family”, which did me in TBF
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,495
Evo1883 said:
Yes , I'd rather old Boris and the tories concentrated on actual issues , rather than getting involved in player knee bending and racist tweets from 1867.

Floppy haired Penis
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Well the wonderful Gavin Williamson has just spent an hour saying 'it's a lot of money' and 'we need to raise the quality of teachers' in response to 'why are you spending 10 times less than your own tsar recommended' and 'isn't this blatantly not enough money'.

CON +4
Gets the working class
Comes across well
Gets people like me
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,496
Is watching Ollie Robinson's apology equivalent to the blogger in Belarus paraded in front of the TV?
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,497
wingy said:
Is watching Ollie Robinson's apology equivalent to the blogger in Belarus paraded in front of the TV?
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Havent seen it , I'm not actually huge on people being destroyed for something they said 10-15 years ago .

Hopefully his apology is accepted by all who want it and he can move on with his career
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,498
shmmeee said:
Wasn’t that impressed until it got to “the gaffer just said go out there and destroy the nuclear family”, which did me in TBF
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OK I did smile at that a bit
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,499
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well the wonderful Gavin Williamson has just spent an hour saying 'it's a lot of money' and 'we need to raise the quality of teachers' in response to 'why are you spending 10 times less than your own tsar recommended' and 'isn't this blatantly not enough money'.

CON +4
Gets the working class
Comes across well
Gets people like me
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As I've told you I still vote Labour, well have done up until this very moment atleast .

I think gavin is a massive tosspot tbh
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,500
Is there anyone in the Tories who isn’t a complete imbecile?

Tory MP compares England players taking the knee to Nazi salutes

Tory MP Brendan Clarke-Smith is under fire after comparing the anti-racism gesture to footballers performing the Nazi salute during a 1938 match against Germany in Berlin
www.mirror.co.uk
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,501
Evo1883 said:
As I've told you I still vote Labour, well have done up until this very moment atleast .

I think gavin is a massive tosspot tbh
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Which one of them isn't
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,502
skybluetony176 said:
Is there anyone in the Tories who isn’t a complete imbecile?

Tory MP compares England players taking the knee to Nazi salutes

Tory MP Brendan Clarke-Smith is under fire after comparing the anti-racism gesture to footballers performing the Nazi salute during a 1938 match against Germany in Berlin
www.mirror.co.uk
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Former teacher as well
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,503
shmmeee said:
Wasn’t that impressed until it got to “the gaffer just said go out there and destroy the nuclear family”, which did me in TBF
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Grealish on Marx and his opinions on "property is theft" is great as well.
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4,504
David O'Day said:
Grealish on Marx and his opinions on "property is theft" is great as well.
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Nobody marx Grealish m8, he's too good on the ball
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,505
Let the gerrymandering commence

Parliament: Shake-up of England's electoral map outlined

Wales and Scotland lose out as details of a major revamp of England's constituencies is unveiled.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,506
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well the wonderful Gavin Williamson has just spent an hour saying 'it's a lot of money' and 'we need to raise the quality of teachers' in response to 'why are you spending 10 times less than your own tsar recommended' and 'isn't this blatantly not enough money'.

CON +4
Gets the working class
Comes across well
Gets people like me
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‘We’ve got absolutely no fucking clue and no fucking plan to go with it….. but anyway look there’s some of those pesky Marxists infiltrating the England camp’
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,507
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Let the gerrymandering commence

Parliament: Shake-up of England's electoral map outlined

Wales and Scotland lose out as details of a major revamp of England's constituencies is unveiled.
www.bbc.co.uk
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It's incredibly cynical and is to bake in the Tories in government for many many years
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,508
Grendel said:
Lol whatever you think of Blair he still has more presence than any of the Labour deadwood
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He’s also head and shoulders above Johnson and the cabinet.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,509
fernandopartridge said:
It's incredibly cynical and is to bake in the Tories in government for many many years
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Strangely on 2019 voting intentions they are down 10 seats with this one.

It is not happening, it's been going on for a decade and will just keep getting kicked down the road.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,510
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Let the gerrymandering commence

Parliament: Shake-up of England's electoral map outlined

Wales and Scotland lose out as details of a major revamp of England's constituencies is unveiled.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Think that’s a little OTT BSB. This shouldve happened a long time ago ie roughly same number of people in each constituency (Also should happen in US where it’s even more ridiculous !) I’d have personally liked it to have been with a cut in number of MPs and reform of House of Lords like suggested a while back, maybe with an element of PR involved

Also the new borders should be decided independently so as to not provide a distinct advantage to any parties but the concept is correct

As DOD suggests this isn’t something that won’t happen quickly (if at all)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,511
CCFCSteve said:
Think that’s a little OTT BSB. This shouldve happened a long time ago ie roughly same number of people in each constituency (Also should happen in US where it’s even more ridiculous !) I’d have personally liked it to have been with a cut in number of MPs and reform of House of Lords like suggested a while back, maybe with an element of PR involved

Also the new borders should be decided independently so as to not provide a distinct advantage to any parties but the concept is correct

As DOD suggests this isn’t something that won’t happen quickly (if at all)
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The Lords is what needs heavily curtailing, not the Commons. Taking seats away from everywhere and giving them to southern England is pretty much the opposite of ‘levelling up’
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,512
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The Lords is what needs heavily curtailing, not the Commons. Taking seats away from everywhere and giving them to southern England is pretty much the opposite of ‘levelling up’
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But there’s no curtailing, it’s proposing making constituencies an equal size, which conceptually is correct (it’s how it’s delivered which needs proper scrutiny). Aa I said above the democrats have wanted to do something similar in US for ages as it’s 10 times worse there

Ps don’t get me started in HoL !
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,513
CCFCSteve said:
But there’s no curtailing, it’s proposing making constituencies an equal size, which conceptually is correct (it’s how it’s delivered which needs proper scrutiny). Aa I said above the democrats have wanted to do something similar in US for ages as it’s 10 times worse there

Ps don’t get me started in HoL !
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Depends if we think one size fits all really?
It may for all I know, trying to think of something comparable but coming up with zilch.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,514
Interesting if the central policy of say the last 50 year's skews the economy to be so London centric that it actually drives the growth of population to the capital,sort of centralises that power even more.
So it will take policies to reverse this to the regions.
Maybe Covid will reverse this trend ,anecdotal evidence of this from the media.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #4,515
CCFCSteve said:
But there’s no curtailing, it’s proposing making constituencies an equal size, which conceptually is correct (it’s how it’s delivered which needs proper scrutiny). Aa I said above the democrats have wanted to do something similar in US for ages as it’s 10 times worse there

Ps don’t get me started in HoL !
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There is a good reason for not overlapping rural and urban constituencies as the needs are quite different. Just weighting things more in favour of the south exacerbates the bias already there
 
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