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clint van damme

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  • Oct 19, 2020
  • #316
Sick Boy said:
Imagine voting for Boris fucking Johnson. It was obvious it was going to turn out like this...
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It's fucking laughable.
Of all the stunts these snake oil salesmen have pulled the 12 billion trace and track has me absolutely stunned (hence the amount of times I mention it).
For the first time in my life I actually wanted to put in some sort of official complaint but seen as it would go to Hardings husband I thought it would pointless. It's fucking corrupt.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 19, 2020
  • #317
Grendel said:
Yes let’s all dream of being New Zealand
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8th on happiness index, we're 15th.
Similar life expectancy (6 months more)
Better climate
Only $1k less on GDP per capita despite not trying to be an economic superpower or using this as their main way of assessing success.
Nigher ranked education system
A PM who actually seems to have some idea as to what their position entails.

We could do worse.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 19, 2020
  • #318
clint van damme said:
No. Let's dream of having competent politicians who do what they were elected to do.
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Well has she reduced wealth inequality in her 3 years yet?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 19, 2020
  • #319
Grendel said:
Well has she reduced wealth inequality in her 3 years yet?
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Still better than ours. If you were actually as wealthy as you like to pretend you are you would welcome their tax laws as would those on your actual income. Forgot to say. As well as being better than us for wealth inequality they also have a much larger middle class than us as a percentage of population. Probably explains their fairer tax system.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Oct 20, 2020
  • #320
NZ certainly appear to have a good leader no doubt.....maybe after shes had another little dance, she could turn her attention to reducing the hideous levels of structural discrimination & institutional racism that exist in her country.....
 

Ian1779

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  • Oct 20, 2020
  • #321
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
NZ certainly appear to have a good leader no doubt.....maybe after shes had another little dance, she could turn her attention to reducing the hideous levels of structural discrimination & institutional racism that exist in her country.....
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I think there is an awful lot of world leaders that need to do this.... starting right here for one.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 20, 2020
  • #322
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
NZ certainly appear to have a good leader no doubt.....maybe after shes had another little dance, she could turn her attention to reducing the hideous levels of structural discrimination & institutional racism that exist in her country.....
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That’s the one thing that sits uncomfortably with me about NZ, the inequality between people of Maori and South Pacific decent and everyone else. They have lower life expectancy, disproportionately incarcerated, more likely to live in overcrowded living conditions, more likely to be lower earners, more likely to be poorer educated, less likely to be home owners etc etc. Mind you there’s a section of society in most countries that you can say that about. We’re certainly not immune in the U.K. for instance. The big difference is that people of Maori and South Pacific heritage were the original settlers in New Zealand.
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 20, 2020
  • #323
Andy Burnham the latest person to take up the reigns as opposition leader as the person actually employed to do it won't for whatever reason.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #324
fresh from taking apart PSG Marcus Rashford is taking apart tory mps on twitter
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #325
I've said it many times before but there really needs to be some sort of repercussions when politicians come out with complete and utter bullshit.

Johnson has claimed today that Sadiq Khan had effectively bankrupted Transport for London before coronavirus. Under Khan TFL's deficit has fallen by 71% since he took over from Johnson.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #326
Its hard to keep up with the amount of shit this government comes out with. Almost missed this one yesterday.

There was a meeting of the Housing, Communities and Local Government Select Committee looking at the the government’s new Building Safety Bill. Lord Greenhalgh, the building safety minister, said the government would not protect leaseholders from the costs of replacing unsafe cladding on buildings.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #327
chiefdave said:
I've said it many times before but there really needs to be some sort of repercussions when politicians come out with complete and utter bullshit.

Johnson has claimed today that Sadiq Khan had effectively bankrupted Transport for London before coronavirus. Under Khan TFL's deficit has fallen by 71% since he took over from Johnson.
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Typical Boris really. Blame everyone else for your mistakes.
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #328
Welcome to the let them eat cake stage of government

 

Ian1779

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #329
David O'Day said:
Welcome to the let them eat cake stage of government

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Well we at least know what happened next in that piece of history.
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #330
David O'Day said:
Welcome to the let them eat cake stage of government

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Saw that, was on Politics Live this lunchtime. They were talking about Rashford's request to extend free school meals over the school holidays.
Siddiq, Labour MP for Hampstead, said Labour would be pushing for free school meals and Scully, Conservative MP for Sutton, said he wouldn't be supporting it. His justification was kids had gone hungry in the past when under Labour governments.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #331
chiefdave said:
Saw that, was on Politics Live this lunchtime. They were talking about Rashford's request to extend free school meals over the school holidays.
Siddiq, Labour MP for Hampstead, said Labour would be pushing for free school meals and Scully, Conservative MP for Sutton, said he wouldn't be supporting it. His justification was kids had gone hungry in the past when under Labour governments.
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Absolute clowns. It’s genuinely all about their obsession with Labour. They haven’t got a fucking clue what to do with power they just don’t want the other side to have it.

Genuinely disgusted by this lot. British people deserve a proper government. Not this corrupt bunch of overly paid Twitter trolls.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #332
shmmeee said:
Absolute clowns. It’s genuinely all about their obsession with Labour. They haven’t got a fucking clue what to do with power they just don’t want the other side to have it.
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It would be an appalling response if the recent election had seen them take over from a Labour government. Reality is Labour have lost the last four general elections yet they think 'but Labour' is an acceptable reply to pretty much any question.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #333
chiefdave said:
It would be an appalling response if the recent election had seen them take over from a Labour government. Reality is Labour have lost the last four general elections yet they think 'but Labour' is an acceptable reply to pretty much any question.
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I suspect having read a few Tory voters on here that they’re mirroring their voters. All we heard before the election was “but Labour”, nothing about how great the Tories would be just how terrible Labour would be. Not just rent free but handed a Wasps style lease in their head it seems
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #334
shmmeee said:
Absolute clowns. It’s genuinely all about their obsession with Labour. They haven’t got a fucking clue what to do with power they just don’t want the other side to have it.

Genuinely disgusted by this lot. British people deserve a proper government. Not this corrupt bunch of overly paid Twitter trolls.
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British people have got exactly what they deserve.
The Tories didn't stage a military coup to obtain office
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #335
clint van damme said:
British people have got exactly what they deserve.
The Tories didn't stage a military coup to obtain office
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Nah.....Even despite Labours policy of fence sitting & self-harm ..More folks still voted against this shambles than for it...and there were millions already too disenfranchised to bother......and even those misguided or selfish enough to actually vote tory probably still deserve to see some sort of competence, organisation, transparency, leadership.......but no.
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #336
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Nah.....Even despite Labours policy of fence sitting & self-harm ..More folks still voted against this shambles than for it...and there were millions already too disenfranchised to bother......and even those misguided or selfish enough to actually vote tory probably still deserve to see some sort of competence, organisation, transparency, leadership.......but no.
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You only have to look on here at how many people defend them, or even how indignant they get when people criticise them or fail to employ the fabled positive thinking to know they can get away with murder because large swathes of the British public are absolute roasters.



I've lost my patience with them. They've made their bed and they'll no doubt make it again in a few years out of fear of whatever bogeyman the billionaire media moguls have got them in a tizz about.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #337
I think they must work on a policy of being that despicable as a party that they just grind you down to pieces so that you don’t even have the energy to push back. No matter how awful you think they are one week - they trump it the next.

Imagine voting down measures to feed free school meal kids in the holidays, just as the Furlough scheme is about to end, and half the country is shut in their house.

But at least we didn’t get free Broadband so that’s a relief.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #338
Ian1779 said:
I think they must work on a policy of being that despicable as a party that they just grind you down to pieces so that you don’t even have the energy to push back. No matter how awful you think they are one week - they trump it the next.

Imagine voting down measures to feed free school meal kids in the holidays, just as the Furlough scheme is about to end, and half the country is shut in their house.

But at least we didn’t get free Broadband so that’s a relief.
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You can't bung your mate 12 billion for a spreadsheet and feed children. You've got to get your priorities right.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #339
clint van damme said:
You can't bung your mate 12 billion for a spreadsheet and feed children. You've got to get your priorities right.
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That’s the thing - in their mind they do have it right, it’s exactly the right priority for them. And 40% of the population lap it up.
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #340
Ian1779 said:
That’s the thing - in their mind they do have it right, it’s exactly the right priority for them. And 40% of the population lap it up.
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See that absolute wank Ben Bradley is blaming parents. No one would have blamed his if they'd drowned the c**t
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #341
clint van damme said:
See that absolute wank Ben Bradley is blaming parents. No one would have blamed his if they'd drowned the c**t
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Its a terrible argument. Lets assume he's 100% right and in every case of child hunger it is the parents to blame, although we all know that isn't the case. What are they doing about it? First and foremost its not the childs fault so your priority should be to make sure they are fed. Once you've taken care of that isn't there an issue of huge failure in child protection? If he really believes millions are parents are neglecting to feed their kids when they have the means to do so what is being done?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #342
I see Angela Raynor pulled up for calling a Tory MP scum. She’s absolutely right.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #343
shmmeee said:
I see Angela Raynor pulled up for calling a Tory MP scum. She’s absolutely right.
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Reminds of the time Dennis Skinner was pulled up for calling half the Tories corrupt. To which he replied ‘half the Tories aren’t corrupt’
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #344
Ian1779 said:
Reminds of the time Dennis Skinner was pulled up for calling half the Tories corrupt. To which he replied ‘half the Tories aren’t corrupt’
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Best MP ever
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #345
Wonder if we'll ever get a punch up like in some tinpot places?
 

Ian1779

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #346
wingy said:
Wonder if we'll ever get a punch up like in some tinpot places?
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Imagine if it did kick off.... Starmer would probably do a WWE style heel turn midway through...



EDIT: Like this one too.

 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #347
I see the vote on feeding poor kids over the summer was defeated. The same deluded Tory voting fuckwits who say "Why can't we be like Sweden?" in relation to Covid can't see the link.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #348
Do they not see how self destructive it is as well, lots of their new seats have very low majorities
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #349
shmmeee said:
I see Angela Raynor pulled up for calling a Tory MP scum. She’s absolutely right.
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When there’s no comeback on MPs for talking complete BS in parliament why should Raynor be pulled up for telling the truth?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #350
chiefdave said:
When there’s no comeback on MPs for talking complete BS in parliament why should Raynor be pulled up for telling the truth?
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Johnson lied to Parliament again today, nothing will happen. But don’t you dare clap when you should have cheered!
 
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