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Evo1883

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,541
Been some extremely confusing posts by some people that normally post quite balanced views.. This whole formation topic has seen some absolutely atrocious footballing opinions spewed out
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,542
Evo1883 said:
Been some extremely confusing posts by some people that normally post quite balanced views.. This whole formation topic has seen some absolutely atrocious footballing opinions spewed out
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I’m confused by one poster in particular who is usually a staunch fan of Robins
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,543
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I’m confused by one of the posters in particular who is usually a staunch fan of Robins
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Even robins knew it was poor last night when most on here thought it was fine lol
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,544
But fans must be realistic and accept that we will play poor sometimes...I wasnt happy with the performance ... That last night isn't a true reflection of how we can play but we played shite and still picked up a point..I cant imagine we will play much worse this season if I'm honest

We've played well and lost a couple times this season already
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,545
I think we probably did have the better of the chances (O'Hare in the 1st half, and then his glancing header 2nd half) but we gave away the ball cheaply, and stood off Derby. Their right back / right midfielder was a real danger. Like everyone, I was hoping Robins would go at them a bit more. There are plenty of positives though. Wilson looks decent. Dabo getting back to full fitness and Hamer continuing to impress. Thought Baka & Max looked really dangerous when they came on too.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,546
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Was clearly onside and we got robbed once again by shit officials
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Wasn't clearly onside it was very tight whichever way it went.
All depends on how far the Derby defender on the keepers rightbhannd side of the 18 yard box retreated.
There was inches in it either way
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,547
To me, being genuinely honest... He looked slightly off on nicks tweet
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,548
Evo1883 said:
To me, being genuinely honest... He looked slightly off on nicks tweet
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The Watkins one for Villa did you add that ? His arm was offside it’s unbelievable...

Games are being decided by this nonsense
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,549
clint van damme said:
Wasn't clearly onside it was very tight whichever way it went.
All depends on how far the Derby defender on the keepers rightbhannd side of the 18 yard box retreated.
There was inches in it either way
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He was onside
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,550
So at same time as saying we are shit you are saying we are unlucky and robbed of a victory


Lmao
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,551
cc84cov said:
The Watkins one for Villa did you add that ? His arm was offside it’s unbelievable...

Games are being decided by this nonsense
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Well that's a mistake then because your arm can't be offside as you can't score with it... But walker seemed to be slightly infront of the last man... And I can only go off the angle of that photo
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,552
covcity4life said:
So at same time as saying we are shit you are saying we are unlucky and robbed of a victory


Lmao
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At least quote me instead of talking to yourself, I never said we played shit
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,553
SkyBlueDom26 said:
At least quote me instead of talking to yourself, I never said we played shit
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The dude can’t spell how do you expect him to quote you
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,554
Boosh said:
Quote me calling anyone clueless or saying it’s a tough place to go.
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G called me clueless it’s more just the general way people who don’t like this way of playing get shouted down.

If Hamer hadn’t bailed us out we’d have just handed bottom of the league a huge confidence boost through negative tactics and subs
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,555
Evo1883 said:
Been some extremely confusing posts by some people that normally post quite balanced views.. This whole formation topic has seen some absolutely atrocious footballing opinions spewed out
Remarkable
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Is it that or are people allowing themselves to be deceived by results against teams in poor form where we are isolating our striker and still giving up chances. Last minute equalisers feel great but Robins took it to ridiculous lengths last night before he made a real effort to attack the game.

We will score very few playing this way.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,556
Brighton Sky Blue said:
G called me clueless it’s more just the general way people who don’t like this way of playing get shouted down.

If Hamer hadn’t bailed us out we’d have just handed bottom of the league a huge confidence boost through negative tactics and subs
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we had less possession against an injury hit Norwich team yet you keep quoting that game to support your argument
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,557
Brighton Sky Blue said:
G called me clueless it’s more just the general way people who don’t like this way of playing get shouted down.

If Hamer hadn’t bailed us out we’d have just handed bottom of the league a huge confidence boost through negative tactics and subs
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If derby hadn't scored we would won
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,558
Brighton Sky Blue said:
G called me clueless it’s more just the general way people who don’t like this way of playing get shouted down.

If Hamer hadn’t bailed us out we’d have just handed bottom of the league a huge confidence boost through negative tactics and subs
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A confidence boost like we handed forest you mean?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,559
covcity4life said:
If derby hadn't scored we would won
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No, we’d have kept it the way it was and it would’ve been 0-0.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,560
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Is it that or are people allowing themselves to be deceived by results against teams in poor form where we are isolating our striker and still giving up chances. Last minute equalisers feel great but Robins took it to ridiculous lengths last night before he made a real effort to attack the game.

We will score very few playing this way.
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Look I undertstand your frustration I do... But I had several people on here tell me the formation was nothing to do with us losing games... Which in itself is an insane thing to say,as I explained formations directly influence how a game plays out in various ways...

I already said I don't mind the wing back system, but I don't think it's as simple as saying... Play it... We win.

Because we weren't

Do people want to stay up playing dull, or go down playing pretty... Or we could mix it up and utilise several formations as and when required
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,561
Grendel said:
A confidence boost like we handed forest you mean?
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You mean when Max booted it down into our half in the 97th minute?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,562
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You mean when Max booted it down into our half in the 97th minute?
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oh that doesn’t count then
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,563
Evo1883 said:
Look I undertstand your frustration I do... But I had several people on here tell me the formation was nothing to do with us losing games... Which in itself is an insane thing to say,as I explained formations directly influence how a game plays out in various ways...

I already said I don't mind the wing back system, but I don't think it's as simple as saying... Play it... We win.

Because we weren't
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Nobody has claimed that a formation will solve all our problems. Just that it looked like we were on to something and needed to cut out stupid errors and address the set piece marking. My point to you is that since switching we are toothless going forward but still lapse to mistakes at the back. It’s giving too much up
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,564
Grendel said:
oh that doesn’t count then
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Explain how our shape was responsible for him doing that? Though we’ve already agreed Norwich doesn’t count and Reading who had won nearly every game were in a false position so they don’t count either
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,565
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Nobody has claimed that a formation will solve all our problems. Just that it looked like we were on to something and needed to cut out stupid errors and address the set piece marking. My point to you is that since switching we are toothless going forward but still lapse to mistakes at the back. It’s giving too much up
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But I would also argue that we had several below par individual performances that effected the way the system should work and we will be better than that

Ideally we need to find the balance... But the truth has been said we could have scored 4 tbh despite being genuinely poor
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,566
Legia Sky Blue said:
Take a look at the highlights uploaded on another thread here. Needs to be freeze framed for clarity but it doesn't look a definite offside to me, even though Walker's body language suggested he thought he was offside.
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His body language was because he saw the flag
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,567
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No, we’d have kept it the way it was and it would’ve been 0-0.
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Yes we didn't create any chances till equaliser...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,568
covcity4life said:
Yes we didn't create any chances till equaliser...
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Ah you mean when we went 2 up front and had a go? He came for the draw if they hadn’t scored he’d have kept Biamou up on his own
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,569
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Ah you mean when we went 2 up front and had a go? He came for the draw if they hadn’t scored he’d have kept Biamou up on his own
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Did we or did we not create any chances before we went 2 up?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,570
Evo1883 said:
But I would also argue that we had several below par individual performances that effected the way the system should work and we will be better than that

Ideally we need to find the balance... But the truth has been said we could have scored 4 tbh despite being genuinely poor
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So why is it ok to write off individual errors in one system but not the other? This is what gets on my tits, be consistent
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,571
Evo1883 said:
Been some extremely confusing posts by some people that normally post quite balanced views.. This whole formation topic has seen some absolutely atrocious footballing opinions spewed out
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It’s not chess FFS
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,572
covcity4life said:
Did we or did we not create any chances before we went 2 up?
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About one in the whole second half
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,573
Johhny Blue said:
It’s not chess FFS
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Football is a very tactical game... It's not tile hill social club v canley club either
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,574
We've already got the worst attacking stats in the league. I dread to see what they'll be like after another month of this set-up.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 2, 2020
  • #1,575
SeaSeeEffCee said:
We've already got the worst attacking stats in the league. I dread to see what they'll be like after another month of this set-up.
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By what measure? Not by goals scored
 
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