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Match Thread Derby County (H) (1 Viewer)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #631
Jamesimus said:
Subs lost us that game I feel. Allen's energy was needed. Sheaf no longer being an option for the CB's to pass too was missed.
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You do realise we didn’t lose
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #632
The Philosopher said:
As soon as we take Gyok off the whole game changes for the worse.

Walker cannot play back to goal. Godden can’t.
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You're absolutely right. Even when he's not fully fit Yok gives us that back-to-goal outlet that allows us to build pressure. Their central defenders had it easy from the moment he went off. Big mistake.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #633
Sick Boy said:
Fucking hell.
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Truly an unbelievable post haha.
 

The Philosopher

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #634
MatthewWallis said:
Really not sure what Sheaf offers, can’t pass and can’t tackle mistake dropping Kelly today. Also great job of Walker standing still the whole time he came on
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I didn’t rate him at all but got hammered with stats telling me he was great.

So I’ve looked again at him with an open mind.

He can play tidily but will make 4 howlers per match - handballs in dangerous area today, needless free kick in dangerous area, loses possession due to lack of awareness. Those are facts from today. His passing can be ok but he will pick the safer pass quite often and then oddly try a worldy. Baffling.

We miss Matty James IMHO and need a midfielder who can boss the middle to allow Gus and Cal to create.

A midfield boss Sheaf is not.

He’s not a very good player in our set up tbh.

Anyway, I’ll get some stat-gimp going on now
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #635
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You do realise we didn’t lose
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Haha yeah, apologies I meant lost us the three points. It still feel like we lost though
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #636
Robins subs were wrong today. Cost us.
 
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procdoc

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #637
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You do realise we didn’t lose
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As I said, perspective is required. We will have dips in form, but I’m confident we will get back to winning ways again
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #638
The Philosopher said:
I didn’t rate him at all but got hammered with stats telling me he was great.

So I’ve looked again at him with an open mind.

He can play tidily but will make 4 howlers per match - handballs in dangerous area today, needless free kick in dangerous area, loses possession due to lack of awareness. Those are facts from today. His passing can be ok but he will pick the safer pass quite often and then oddly try a worldy. Baffling.

We miss Matty James IMHO and need a midfielder who can boss the middle to allow Gus and Cal to create.

A midfield boss Sheaf is not.

He’s not a very good player in our set up tbh.

Anyway, I’ll get some stat-gimp going on now
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What were the 4 howlers today?
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #639
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You do realise we didn’t lose
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In fact, you're wrong, we definitely lost
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #640
fatso said:
Another victory gone to pot due to MR not realising we need another body in midfield.
Why the fuck he leaves 2 upfront when we cant get out of our half I'll never know.
This is the 3rd game on the trot its happened. Weve been rumbled and he just cant seem to grasp it.
He held khis hand up after the Preston game, but has just made the exact same mistake.
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It is frustrating that he seemed to acknowledge it after Wed and then proceed to do almost the same thing. Second half was not good.

I think we need to not score first half. It's not helping us
 
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procdoc

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #641
clint van damme said:
Robins subs were wrong today. Cost us.
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Who’d be a manager, eh?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #642
Safe to say Robins has been given a lot of food for thought in these 3 games. Should have been 2 or 3 up, Moore untested basically until the ball is gifted away.

We needed the extra man in midfield again second half.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #643
The man management of Walker is questionable after scoring 2 in 2.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #644
stupot07 said:
I'd have gone back to the box, we were totally overrun in midfield.

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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Same as midweek
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #645
procdoc said:
Who’d be a manager, eh?
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Got to be honest, I thought some of the criticism of Kelly has been harsh but he dragged us back 5 or ten yards when he came on.

Having said that it was Hyams poor pass that lead to the goal.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #646
The Philosopher said:
I didn’t rate him at all but got hammered with stats telling me he was great.

So I’ve looked again at him with an open mind.

He can play tidily but will make 4 howlers per match - handballs in dangerous area today, needless free kick in dangerous area, loses possession due to lack of awareness. Those are facts from today. His passing can be ok but he will pick the safer pass quite often and then oddly try a worldy. Baffling.

We miss Matty James IMHO and need a midfielder who can boss the middle to allow Gus and Cal to create.

A midfield boss Sheaf is not.

He’s not a very good player in our set up tbh.

Anyway, I’ll get some stat-gimp going on now
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Clueless
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #647
SlowerThanPlatt said:
No we wasn’t. Derby came out firing
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Was pretty level. Thought a change was needed but Kelly didn’t play as well as sheaf and Walker needed to replace godden
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #648
The Philosopher said:
I didn’t rate him at all but got hammered with stats telling me he was great.

So I’ve looked again at him with an open mind.

He can play tidily but will make 4 howlers per match - handballs in dangerous area today, needless free kick in dangerous area, loses possession due to lack of awareness. Those are facts from today. His passing can be ok but he will pick the safer pass quite often and then oddly try a worldy. Baffling.

We miss Matty James IMHO and need a midfielder who can boss the middle to allow Gus and Cal to create.

A midfield boss Sheaf is not.

He’s not a very good player in our set up tbh.

Anyway, I’ll get some stat-gimp going on now
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We lost the game as he went off and Kelly came on - Kelly was a disaster
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #649
I had a very good veiw of the disallowed goal and it was not off
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #650
Kelly was really awful. Gave the ball away for the goal and offered nothing in possession.

Walker and Godden are too similar so we lost the press.

Allen should have come on for Sheaf and Waghorn should have started.

Dabo really needs to work on his end product too. Kane has shown what a quality ball in from there can achieve.

On another note it’s really getting to me how much we need a backup for O’Hare. You can see he’s leggy now and we just don’t have anybody to replace him. Bright was a huge fuck up.
 

The Philosopher

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #651
clint van damme said:
Robins subs were wrong today. Cost us.
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He was restricted by what he has on the bench. Kelly for Sheaf? I can see the thinking but Kelly looked off the boil. Hindsight etc.
Walker for Gyok? Gyok was struggling but Walker was not the answer. That wasn’t hindsight- just a lack of thinking. We haven’t got a back to goal forward in the squad beside Gyok. TBF Waghorn would have been better - he’s still not a no9.
 

SkyblueTexan

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #652
Kieranp96 said:
Yet we was in total charge until kell and walker came on
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No we weren't in charge as they were knocking on the door. Kazim hit the post as well just prior to the goal. I don't know why the last 2 games we've just tried to sit on 1-0 leads instead of trying to go for the second goal. We stop playing and don't know what to do. We make mental mistakes and give away possession cheaply in key areas that result in goals for the opposition. So frustrating. Are we running out of energy or ideas? Allen needs to come in I think. In the Jan window, we need to find someone with a calming presence to bridge defence to attack and chip in with a few goals [ala Matty James]. Suddenly the squad just does not seem balanced.
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #653
SlowerThanPlatt said:
What were the 4 howlers today?
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Even the handball was just unlucky as the ball spun as he chested it.

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PUSB-We_are_going_up

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #654
Liquid Gold said:
Kelly was really awful. Gave the ball away for the goal and offered nothing in possession.

Walker and Godden are too similar so we lost the press.

Allen should have come on for Sheaf and Waghorn should have started.

Dabo really needs to work on his end product too. Kane has shown what a quality ball in from there can achieve.

On another note it’s really getting to me how much we need a backup for O’Hare. You can see he’s leggy now and we just don’t have anybody to replace him. Bright was a huge fuck up.
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Bapaga recall in jan??
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #655
procdoc said:
As I said, perspective is required. We will have dips in form, but I’m confident we will get back to winning ways again
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As double headers go this week it’s hard not to feel flat, we ought to have got 5 more points this week against 2 ordinary teams. I didn’t see the 100% ending against these really.

The second halves in both games were just rank, for the same reason.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #656
Two games in a row Robins has been tactically poor
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #657
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Bapaga recall in jan??
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No
 

Tommo1993

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #658
Our only consistent 90 minutes this season came at Luton.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #659
Grendel said:
Two games in a row Robins has been tactically poor
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Stubborn robins creeping back
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #660
SkyblueTexan said:
No we weren't in charge as they were knocking on the door. Kazim hit the post as well just prior to the goal. I don't know why the last 2 games we've just tried to sit on 1-0 leads instead of trying to go for the second goal. We stop playing and don't know what to do. We make mental mistakes and give away possession cheaply in key areas that result in goals for the opposition. So frustrating. Are we running out of energy or ideas? Allen needs to come in I think. In the Jan window, we need to find someone with a calming presence to bridge defence to attack and chip in with a few goals [ala Matty James]. Suddenly the squad just does not seem balanced.
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What else did they do?
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #661
The Philosopher said:
He was restricted by what he has on the bench. Kelly for Sheaf? I can see the thinking.
Walker for Gyok? Gyok was struggling but Walker was not the answer.
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you must sit behind me - you have zero idea
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #662
Grendel said:
Two games in a row Robins has been tactically poor
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I dont think the tactics were wrong, just the subs that killed us
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #663
Sick Boy said:
The man management of Walker is questionable after scoring 2 in 2.
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Had his chance didn’t take it today
 

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #664
The Philosopher said:
I didn’t rate him at all but got hammered with stats telling me he was great.

So I’ve looked again at him with an open mind.

He can play tidily but will make 4 howlers per match - handballs in dangerous area today, needless free kick in dangerous area, loses possession due to lack of awareness. Those are facts from today. His passing can be ok but he will pick the safer pass quite often and then oddly try a worldy. Baffling.

We miss Matty James IMHO and need a midfielder who can boss the middle to allow Gus and Cal to create.

A midfield boss Sheaf is not.

He’s not a very good player in our set up tbh.

Anyway, I’ll get some stat-gimp going on now
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To be fair , I Agree with most of this. Sheaf is a good player , but just makes stupid mistakes. A defensive midfielder on loan in january wouldn’t go amiss
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #665
Sky Blue Pete said:
Had his chance didn’t take it today
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His chance would be to start another game
 
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