I have seen both live and thought Jo Brand was very funny and Ed Byrne not very funny at all.
The Jo Brand gig though was many, many moons ago. The 0203 Comedy Club in Coventry.
I don't find her so funny nowadays. She was a lot more punchy and self-deprecating back then.Fair enough. Just when I've seen her on shows like QI, 8 out of 10 Cats etc, she just seems to do really obvious jokes which are more like someone trying to make a story sound funny - which she doesn't (in my opinion). Someone like Billy Connolly is a master of that - telling stories but making them sound like jokes.
Maybe I will give her the benefit of the doubt on Taskmaster on the back of the feedback from your good self and NW.
I don't find her so funny nowadays. She was a lot more punchy and self-deprecating back then.
Let me know what you think to her on TM.
She's 64 now, so maybe she just ran out of jokes.
In the same way that Peter Kay just remembers stuff.Jo Brands routine just consists of her telling the same old repetitive 'joke' about how fat she is
Wow, if man said that about a woman. Not funny.
An example, my dad, an Irishman, when he got a bit tired of all of the 'thick Paddy' jokes, would crack this one...
"Do you know why the Irish are so thick? It's so the English can understand them!"
I used to spend a lot of time in Ireland with Irish friendsInteresting point this. I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are kind of two aspects to this joke...
The first is it's a reversal of an old saying, "The quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach". We're back on women cooking with that one, and there's no equivalent saying for women, so reversing the joke simply doesn't work.
The second point is that proportionately far more women get killed/beaten/raped by men than the other way around. So reversing the joke also doesn't really work from that angle.
My ten-bob take on it is this: If your joke is on someone in a weaker position than you because of gender, or race, or disability, then it might need rethinking.
If the joke reverses that power issue, then the reversal usually becomes key to the joke.
An example, my dad, an Irishman, when he got a bit tired of all of the 'thick Paddy' jokes, would crack this one...
"Do you know why the Irish are so thick? It's so the English can understand them!"
Tricky thing, humour. I'm not saying the oven jokes aren't funny by the way, I've cracked them myself if I was honest.
But the 'chain to the cooker' is such an old trope that I think most people know that it isn't true any more. So maybe there's less harm in those gags now - I'm not sure in truth, my wife might differ!
But I do know for sure that if you're going to dish it out, you've got to be ready to have some back. So given the thread, I'm not sure your 'wow' response is merited. It's your opinion though, I can respect that.
Interesting point this. I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are kind of two aspects to this joke...
The first is it's a reversal of an old saying, "The quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach". We're back on women cooking with that one, and there's no equivalent saying for women, so reversing the joke simply doesn't work.
The second point is that proportionately far more women get killed/beaten/raped by men than the other way around. So reversing the joke also doesn't really work from that angle.
My ten-bob take on it is this: If your joke is on someone in a weaker position than you because of gender, or race, or disability, then it might need rethinking.
If the joke reverses that power issue, then the reversal usually becomes key to the joke.
An example, my dad, an Irishman, when he got a bit tired of all of the 'thick Paddy' jokes, would crack this one...
"Do you know why the Irish are so thick? It's so the English can understand them!"
Tricky thing, humour. I'm not saying the oven jokes aren't funny by the way, I've cracked them myself if I was honest.
But the 'chain to the cooker' is such an old trope that I think most people know that it isn't true any more. So maybe there's less harm in those gags now - I'm not sure in truth, my wife might differ!
But I do know for sure that if you're going to dish it out, you've got to be ready to have some back. So given the thread, I'm not sure your 'wow' response is merited. It's your opinion though, I can respect that.
opinion on female pilots?
Interesting point this. I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are kind of two aspects to this joke...
The first is it's a reversal of an old saying, "The quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach". We're back on women cooking with that one, and there's no equivalent saying for women, so reversing the joke simply doesn't work.
The second point is that proportionately far more women get killed/beaten/raped by men than the other way around. So reversing the joke also doesn't really work from that angle.
My ten-bob take on it is this: If your joke is on someone in a weaker position than you because of gender, or race, or disability, then it might need rethinking.
If the joke reverses that power issue, then the reversal usually becomes key to the joke.
An example, my dad, an Irishman, when he got a bit tired of all of the 'thick Paddy' jokes, would crack this one...
"Do you know why the Irish are so thick? It's so the English can understand them!"
Tricky thing, humour. I'm not saying the oven jokes aren't funny by the way, I've cracked them myself if I was honest.
But the 'chain to the cooker' is such an old trope that I think most people know that it isn't true any more. So maybe there's less harm in those gags now - I'm not sure in truth, my wife might differ!
But I do know for sure that if you're going to dish it out, you've got to be ready to have some back. So given the thread, I'm not sure your 'wow' response is merited. It's your opinion though, I can respect that.
I used to spend a lot of time in Ireland with Irish friends
They all told the same jokes but used 'Kerryman' instead of 'Irishman'
It's the same the world over
I used to spend a lot of time in Ireland with Irish friends
They all told the same jokes but used 'Kerryman' instead of 'Irishman'
It's the same the world over
I consider myself to be a prime example.I don't think Irish jokes hold as much power now as they did over here because it's widely known that those of Irish descent are obviously better educated and better looking than most of the locals.
Funnily enough I still occasionally hear such jokes but these days the butt is 'Millwall fan'It is. I suspect every culture has its 'Irish' jokes. That doesn't make it right though.
I don't think Irish jokes hold as much power now as they did over here because it's widely known that those of Irish descent are obviously better educated and better looking than most of the locals.
However, I will stick to my opinion which is that jokes about racial minorities which perpetuate a negative stereotype aren't a good thing (or especially funny, often). For starters, there are too many dickheads who start to believe them!
I do understand what you're saying but it can be a bit tiring when you hear someone complain about a certain thing or stereotyping a certain type of person and then they go and do the exact same thing the other way round. I'm sure they'll say they're doing it in some ironic way but IMO they just lose any point they may have had.
A couple of examples are Nish Kumar and Rachel Parris who talk a lot about racism and sexism respectively and then a lot of their material is on stereotypes of white people and men. Another is Catherine Bohart who seems to want to tell everyone they're an ill-informed know-it-all despite quite often coming across as one herself.
Ginger's have the shortest end of the stick, i still know lads with orange hair that go by the nickname 'ginge'. When is their time?
Laverne & Shirley's was pretty good and they ended up with 8 seasons out of it.opinion on female pilots?
Laverne & Shirley's was pretty good and they ended up with 8 seasons out of it.
Roseanne managed 10.
They obviously do pan out sometimes.
You a Ginge BSB? Just had to alter my mental image of you.Paul Scholes will lead us to the Red Planet and exclude you all
You a Ginge BSB? Just had to alter my mental image of you.
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I'm sure you pull it off pal... and the hair.In the summer it’s basically orange, in winter it’s closer to brown. If I don’t have factor 50 I look like Astute on the Gyo thread
Ginger's have the shortest end of the stick, i still know lads with orange hair that go by the nickname 'ginge'. When is their time?
Winter.
The sun's not very kind to them.
(My family has quite a few ginger/red haired people and my facial hair is VERY ginger in a certain light)
Ah, the ‘I have ginger friends’ line. Ed Sheeran will decide
Ah, the ‘I have ginger friends’ line. Ed Sheeran will decide
Interesting point this. I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are kind of two aspects to this joke...
The first is it's a reversal of an old saying, "The quickest way to a man's heart is through his stomach". We're back on women cooking with that one, and there's no equivalent saying for women, so reversing the joke simply doesn't work.
The second point is that proportionately far more women get killed/beaten/raped by men than the other way around. So reversing the joke also doesn't really work from that angle.
My ten-bob take on it is this: If your joke is on someone in a weaker position than you because of gender, or race, or disability, then it might need rethinking.
If the joke reverses that power issue, then the reversal usually becomes key to the joke.
An example, my dad, an Irishman, when he got a bit tired of all of the 'thick Paddy' jokes, would crack this one...
"Do you know why the Irish are so thick? It's so the English can understand them!"
Tricky thing, humour. I'm not saying the oven jokes aren't funny by the way, I've cracked them myself if I was honest.
But the 'chain to the cooker' is such an old trope that I think most people know that it isn't true any more. So maybe there's less harm in those gags now - I'm not sure in truth, my wife might differ!
But I do know for sure that if you're going to dish it out, you've got to be ready to have some back. So given the thread, I'm not sure your 'wow' response is merited. It's your opinion though, I can respect that.
1. I don't dish it out.
2. Those jokes belong back in the 70s.
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