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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #106
Sky Blue Pete said:
My case in point.

Sisu acted poorly
Ccc acted poorly
Wasps have acted poorly

Ccfc and it’s fans have all the consequences and none of the responsibility

Let’s move on. If we can.
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If only there was a chant we can sing at games that represents this view...
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #107
SBbucks said:
Absolutely right to leave it in, that's what we signed up to. The Trust have done nothing in the last month to change the situation.
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Certain individuals have tried
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #108
skyblue1991 said:
If only there was a chant we can sing at games that represents this view...
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It’s not catchy
 
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SBbucks

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #109
Sky Blue Pete said:
Certain individuals have tried
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But the Trust's position has not noticeably changed has it?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #110
SBbucks said:
But the Trust's position has not noticeably changed has it?
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Not publicly no
 

mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #111
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not publicly no
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So no then.... Surely the only proof is in the pudding and them coming out and condemning wasps for the cunts that they are, anything other than that isn't acceptable
 
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SBbucks

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #112
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not publicly no
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Sorry, but if it's not done publicly it is meaningless.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #113
mr_monkey said:
So no then.... Surely the only proof is in the pudding and them coming out and condemning wasps for the cunts that they are, anything other than that isn't acceptable
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It’s probably not useful to refer to them as cunts as it’s not been useful for the trust to boycott home games and work with potential new owners against the current owners and then expect to work with them. Cwr wasps telegraph ccfc ccc and Sisu must know us fans are still wanting to know what’s going on and when we will be back in coventry. Can’t believe certain individuals involved think a 5 min off the record conversation will placate me and us. And I’m not naming names or organisations at this moment in time.
 
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SBbucks

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #114
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s probably not useful to refer to them as cunts as it’s not been useful for the trust to boycott home games and work with potential new owners against the current owners and then expect to work with them. Cwr wasps telegraph ccfc ccc and Sisu must know us fans are still wanting to know what’s going on and when we will be back in coventry. Can’t believe certain individuals involved think a 5 min off the record conversation will placate me and us. And I’m not naming names or organisations at this moment in time.
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Pete,
Serious question, why the secrecy? I agree that name calling is not the right thing to do (and have never resorted to it) but if there has been some progress in attitudes or thinking why can't it be shared? To most of us looking on there has been no progress.
 

mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #115
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s probably not useful to refer to them as cunts as it’s not been useful for the trust to boycott home games and work with potential new owners against the current owners and then expect to work with them. Cwr wasps telegraph ccfc ccc and Sisu must know us fans are still wanting to know what’s going on and when we will be back in coventry. Can’t believe certain individuals involved think a 5 min off the record conversation will placate me and us. And I’m not naming names or organisations at this moment in time.
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Tbf it's the only way to describe a parasitic entity such as wasps who force a football club out of their home city and then force numerous people and communities out of a sports complex in an area miles away from their new "home".... I applaud people who can stay level headed about it but I can't any more, and the less said about the trust's efforts the better
 
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Kilclines curly mullet

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #116
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not publicly no
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Forgive me but isn’t it the duty of the trust, who supposedly represent the supporters, to make things public to their members ?
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #117
Reading between the lines...

Once again, CJ is the only one prepared to engage with other fans & the only one vaguely interested in addressing Wasps & the indemnity. The rest of the Trust have no appetite for it & so nothing will change...
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #118
SBbucks said:
Pete,
Serious question, why the secrecy? I agree that name calling is not the right thing to do (and have never resorted to it) but if there has been some progress in attitudes or thinking why can't it be shared? To most of us looking on there has been no progress.
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No secrecy and no concrete progress. I’m so sorry though if it feels like nothing has changed. I don’t really know how to play this game. in a sense nothing has changed until something does and I’m in this to do all I can to influence us as a fan base to be United in our calling on all parties without fear or favour to sort out playing at the Ricoh with a sustainable deal for the future

Indiivuduals from the trust and individuals on here have been talking about how we can make some changes long term to fully reflect the wider fan base
 
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SBbucks

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  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #119
Sky Blue Pete said:
No secrecy and no concrete progress. I’m so sorry though if it feels like nothing has changed. I don’t really know how to play this game. in a sense nothing has changed until something does and I’m in this to do all I can to influence us as a fan base to be United in our calling on all parties without fear or favour to sort out playing at the Ricoh with a sustainable deal for the future

Indiivuduals from the trust and individuals on here have been talking about how we can make some changes long term to fully reflect the wider fan base
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Appreciate what you're trying to do and the effort you're putting in, but this shouldn't need to be a complex negotiation; the trust just need to publicly condemn Wasps' stance over the indemnity clause, then we can all move forward from there. Simple and straightforward to do if they have the appetite for it.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #120
What’s the phone number to get on?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #121
SBbucks said:
Appreciate what you're trying to do and the effort you're putting in, but this shouldn't need to be a complex negotiation; the trust just need to publicly condemn Wasps' stance over the indemnity clause, then we can all move forward from there. Simple and straightforward to do if they have the appetite for it.
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I don’t think they do
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #122
Sky Blue Pete said:
I don’t think they do
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And I think it’s fair to say it’s common knowledge that ccc and wasps and anyone that speaks on their behalf says it’s not their fault it’s Sisu. It’s always been them is now and it always will be
 
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SBbucks

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2020
  • #123
Sky Blue Pete said:
I don’t think they do
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Which begs the question why bother with them? Let them just continue to dwindle into insignificance.
 
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usskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #124
I’m going to call the phone-in. What time does the show start (GMT) and what’s the full phone number (incl code) ?
 
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ccfctommy

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  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #125
usskyblue said:
I’m going to call the phone-in. What time does the show start (GMT) and what’s the full phone number (incl code) ?
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Six o clock
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #126
ccfctommy said:
Six o clock
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Would it be +44800 756 5200
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #127
Sky Blue Pete said:
Would it be +44800 756 5200
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Yeah think so. Drop the leading zero and add +44
 
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AOM

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #128
usskyblue said:
I’m going to call the phone-in. What time does the show start (GMT) and what’s the full phone number (incl code) ?
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Grendel said:
What’s the phone number to get on?
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #129
Tenner to charity if you can say "thanks for this, you've ruined my holidee"
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #130
Someone should ring up and ask Clive about the ball boys
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #131
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Someone should ring up and ask Clive about the ball boys
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Well I can assure you it happened ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #132
Sky Blue Pete said:
Well I can assure you it happened ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Im tempted to ring haha whats the number?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #133
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Im tempted to ring haha whats the number?
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0800 7565200
 
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mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #134
Sky Blue Pete said:
I don’t think they do
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I'm sorry mate but they do. The indemnity is the reason we aren't in Coventry this year it's as simple as that. Our trust need to put pressure on wasps to drop it or at least acknowledge it rather than applauding them and then going back to but Sisu whenever the indemnity is mentioned
 
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CCFC88

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #135
Watched the Pompey game and the Fleetwood game on my TV service which had the opposing teams radio linked to it. It was an absolute breath of fresh air, yes they were slightly tilted in the oppositions favour as you'd expect but their commentators and pundits were all people in touch with the modern game.

Pompey commentary team were forever going on about how difficult it was playing against our box midfield and what they should be doing to counter it, were calling for the Harison sub at ht which did change the game when he came on.

They mentioned the ground situation and clearly understood what was going on, but most of all they knew all our players names, no Bradley Walsh, no Babayoko and no mention of players passing the ball that had been subbed 20 mins prior.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #136
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s probably not useful to refer to them as cunts as it’s not been useful for the trust to boycott home games and work with potential new owners against the current owners and then expect to work with them. Cwr wasps telegraph ccfc ccc and Sisu must know us fans are still wanting to know what’s going on and when we will be back in coventry. Can’t believe certain individuals involved think a 5 min off the record conversation will placate me and us. And I’m not naming names or organisations at this moment in time.
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I appreciate what you're doing Pete but one of the issues we've been having is lack of transparency from the trust. I feel uncomfortable in you getting involved in that and a divide being created between you and the rest of the forum. Whatever discussions take place should be posted on here. Again, it could be in a heavily moderated sub forum so it doesn't result in arguments.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #137
mr_monkey said:
I'm sorry mate but they do. The indemnity is the reason we aren't in Coventry this year it's as simple as that. Our trust need to put pressure on wasps to drop it or at least acknowledge it rather than applauding them and then going back to but Sisu whenever the indemnity is mentioned
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Are you basing that on some evidence and facts? I’m not disagreeing with the sentiment at all and I still strongly feel that there are steps to take and the first one is wasps publicly saying the indemnity doesn’t stop conversation or agreement from being pursued. Pretty sure they’ve said this off the record to many people
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #138
Liquid Gold said:
I appreciate what you're doing Pete but one of the issues we've been having is lack of transparency from the trust. I feel uncomfortable in you getting involved in that and a divide being created between you and the rest of the forum. Whatever discussions take place should be posted on here. Again, it could be in a heavily moderated sub forum so it doesn't result in arguments.
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Is that possible nick?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #139
Liquid Gold said:
I appreciate what you're doing Pete but one of the issues we've been having is lack of transparency from the trust. I feel uncomfortable in you getting involved in that and a divide being created between you and the rest of the forum. Whatever discussions take place should be posted on here. Again, it could be in a heavily moderated sub forum so it doesn't result in arguments.
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I know I’m sorry and I completely agree with you about transparency.
 
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mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #140
Sky Blue Pete said:
Are you being that on some evidence and facts? I’m not disagreeing with the sentiment at all and I still strongly feel that there are steps to take and the first one is wasps publicly saying the indemnity doesn’t stop conversation or agreement from being pursued. Pretty sure they’ve said this off the record to many people
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Again it's all off the record which is why people don't trust anyone that's the problem. The only person we have heard about the indemnity clause from in the public space is Dave boddy who said it was the reason for the talks breaking down and im sure we can all agree that if it wasn't true wasps would correct it publicly.

Nick Eastwood has said that the complaint to the EU isnt the reason the talks broke down, it's blatantly obvious to anyone with any sense that wasps want this clause because they know they underpaid but why should ccfc cover them for what they did? Why can't the trust or the local media ask this question, that's the frustrating bit
 
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