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Match Thread Coventry City - West Bromwich Albion Match Thread - Monday 30th Oct (4 Viewers)

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Cobi Jones's Dreads

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,156
pusbccfc said:
Good, but obvious prediction.
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Yeah that’s what I said.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,157
Teams aren’t scared of us. Their players looked bigger and more confident.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,158
skybluecam said:
If you watch the offside back it’s very marginal. Hardly obvious.
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We had several less offside given, including ones by the same Lino. Not an excuse.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,159
Flying Fokker said:
Teams aren’t scared of us. Their players looked bigger and more confident.
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Team full of pussies.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,160
skybluecam said:
If you watch the offside back it’s very marginal. Hardly obvious.
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Sitting not far from the lino’s position it looked blatant and more so than the ones he was giving against Wright first half. Pure incompetence
 
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fatso

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,161
procdoc said:
It was criminal that Wright didn’t hit the target with both his chances really. The fee ain’t his fault though
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The fee isn't his fault, but playing with no passion no commitment and having no fire in his belly IS his fault.

It's like Wright and Simms feel like they have nothing to prove here, and they are too big for us.

Gyokeres was totally different, he played like he had a point to prove, and like he knew this was his last chance to make it in the game. I havnt seen that level of commitment in the two new strikers.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,162
It's just annoying and this forum is for venting as my wife and kid don't give a shit.
There was such a feel good factor going into the season despite the play off defeat... Wasps being gone meant the stadium was starting to feel like home, £20 million spent regardless of how we came about it is a fucking shit load at this level, record season tickets numbers backed up the excitement.. and this is what is being served up. Its appalling.

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Chris1987

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,163
Defeats I can accept if the players are giving it 100% for the whole game . Some appear not be. They earn shit loads more than the majority of us and we part with our hard earned to support them and we have been backing them to the hilt on match days . The least we can expect is reciprocated effort Additionally if we fuck up in our employment regularly we get either reprimands/warnings or the boot .
 
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Boicey

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,164
Alkhen said:
Robins just stated the obvious that we need to take chances and is waiting for us to 'click'. I mean I'm not loving the style today but we are miles off being bottom 3.

Usual over reaction
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I mean we are 20th, recently lost to Rotheram and drew at home against Huddersfield. Goal shy, frequent errors at the back, unsettled and unconfident.
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,165
I will own it when we’re shite - and in large patches we were last night but what is the point when you’ve got the most consistently incompetent refereeing performances I’ve ever seen, we could be playing like Manchester City and we’d still have to deal with this shite, it was the same against Norwich as well

The most blatant handball and offside you are ever likely to see, fuck all given - We go into Half Time at 1-1 it’s a different match
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,166
alexccfc99 said:
I will own it when we’re shite - and in large patches we were last night but what is the point when you’ve got the most consistently incompetent refereeing performances I’ve ever seen, we could be playing like Manchester City and we’d still have to deal with this shite, it was the same against Norwich as well

The most blatant handball and offside you are ever likely to see, fuck all given - We go into Half Time at 1-1 it’s a different match
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Stop blaming officials. If were good enough their incompetence doesnt matter 9/10 times
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,167
Saddlebrains said:
Stop blaming officials. If were good enough their incompetence doesnt matter 9/10 times
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Did you not read the first part of my post?

Regardless of any of that we had a stonewall penalty turned down and their second goal is offside, not even up for debate
 
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Chris1987

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,168
We need the team to show the same attitude as Kitching. At least he was fired up .
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,169
Saddlebrains said:
Stop blaming officials. If were good enough their incompetence doesnt matter 9/10 times
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I mean we’re not but the ref won it for them with his decisions last night. You can’t argue that.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,170
alexccfc99 said:
Did you not read the first part of my post?

We had a stonewall penalty turned down and their second goal is offside, not even up for debate
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I agree

But If Wright isnt a fucking donkey and we could actually get into the 18 yard box and create chances instead of having fuck all creativity and going back and starting again every 10 seconds, them decisions dont matter
 

alexccfc99

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,171
Saddlebrains said:
I agree

But If Wright isnt a fucking donkey and we could actually get into the 18 yard box and create chances instead of having fuck all creativity and going back and starting again every 10 seconds, them decisions dont matter
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If you think ‘them decisions don’t matter’ then there is zero point even trying to debate with you
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,172
Flying Fokker said:
Teams aren’t scared of us. Their players looked bigger and more confident.
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100% agree. We must be one of the easiest teams to play against atm, no manager is going to be afraid of playing us if all you have to do is sit deep, grab a set piece or counter-attack goal and let us run the clock down ourselves by passing it sideways for half the game.

It’s honestly pathetic that we’re this easy to play against. I honestly do think Robins is a great guy and a great manager but the buck really does stop with him. I realise there’s some players not giving their all and that’s also inexcusable but on the whole the players look to be doing what’s asked of them. Robins has told them to play a high line, Robins has told them to set up in a back 5, Robins has told them to keep possession, Robins has told them to attack via the wingbacks etc etc, but if it’s not working then the manager needs to change it. If the player lacks ability or if the player can’t or won’t do what he’s told then you either need to get that particular player out of that role or try a new system, and we’re doing neither atm.

We played a hell of a lot better with the box but we’re playing the same old possession-based tactics that we’ve seen almost every week. Wtf you do from here I don’t know but that’s the manager’s job and if he can’t find a way out of it then what do you do?
 

Chris1987

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,173
Possession based football works great if you have players constantly moving into areas dragging the opposition around the pitch. We don't do that , it's walking football a lot of the time. So easy to counteract. That's most likely down to Robins or are the players just incapable or a combination of both ? Having no midfield creativity doesn't help either.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,174
alexccfc99 said:
If you think ‘them decisions don’t matter’ then there is zero point even trying to debate with you
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Whats your excuse for the other 11 shit performances though.
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,175
Saddlebrains said:
Whats your excuse for the other 11 shit performances though.
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No excuse - Doesn’t change the fact we were robbed of a penalty kick and Albion scored a goal that shouldn’t have stood though does it
 
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Chris1987

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,176
I'm wasting £100 going to Preston aren't I? It's the hope that kills.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,177
alexccfc99 said:
No excuse - Doesn’t change the fact we were robbed of a penalty kick and Albion scored a goal that shouldn’t have stood though does it
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Fair
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,178
Chris1987 said:
I'm wasting £100 going to Preston aren't I? It's the hope that kills.
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Careful, the Bulkington Gazette’s cartoonist will be on your case.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,179
Saddlebrains said:
Whats your excuse for the other 11 shit performances though.
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What does your source make of it all?
 

fatso

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,180
alexccfc99 said:
I will own it when we’re shite - and in large patches we were last night but what is the point when you’ve got the most consistently incompetent refereeing performances I’ve ever seen, we could be playing like Manchester City and we’d still have to deal with this shite, it was the same against Norwich as well

The most blatant handball and offside you are ever likely to see, fuck all given - We go into Half Time at 1-1 it’s a different match
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But the ref didn't hand them the first goal on a big silver plate, Wilson did.

And it wasn't the refs fault that Wright went clean through on goal and only had to hit the target.

It wasn't the refs fault that our 2 best defenders were sat on the bench, or that Sheaf can't shoot and couldn't pass last night or that MvE can't get past his defender and cross, etc etc etc.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,181
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What does your source make of it all?
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As I've said mate there's absolutely no relationships in the camp. The likes of Fadz, Allen, Godden, Callum etc have all tried to include the new signings, get them to a level on the training and matchday pitch, arrange to do things outside of the club, and its just not being reciprocated.

Apparently MVE is very egotistical and believes his own Rhetoric.


Take a look at Fadz interview yesterday. When has he ever been so downhearted? He didnt even know if Wright had a boy or a girl. Imagine that being the case between players for the last 3 or 4 seasons? That interview says it all to me, and I hope people realise this is the reason why I've said for a while we are genuinely in trouble this year.

Part of the reason as to Why Robins is so lost also. Hes prided himself on players that fight, battle, carry off his instructions to a tee on the field. This lot dont do any of that, the recruitment has been horrifying
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 31, 2023
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Martin180 said:
Ex professionals opinion Vs keyboard experts ?
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Well we all know you win nothing with kids
 

alexccfc99

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,183
fatso said:
But the ref didn't hand them the first goal on a big silver plate, Wilson did.

And it wasn't the refs fault that Wright went clean through on goal and only had to hit the target.

It wasn't the refs fault that our 2 best defenders were sat on the bench, or that Sheaf can't shoot and couldn't pass last night or that MvE can't get past his defender and cross, etc etc etc.
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I’m not disagreeing with any of that and like I said in large patches we weren’t good enough last night - But the point stands, two major refereeing decisions went against us

If we get given a penalty and score it, it’s a different match that’s just a fact
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,184
Saddlebrains said:
As I've said mate there's absolutely no relationships in the camp. The likes of Fadz, Allen, Godden, Callum etc have all tried to include the new signings, get them to a level on the training and matchday pitch, arrange to do things outside of the club, and its just not being reciprocated.

Apparently MVE is very egotistical and believes his own Rhetoric.


Take a look at Fadz interview yesterday. When has he ever been so downhearted? He didnt even know if Wright had a boy or a girl. Imagine that being the case between players for the last 3 or 4 seasons? That interview says it all to me, and I hope people realise this is the reason why I've said for a while we are genuinely in trouble this year.

Part of the reason as to Why Robins is so lost also. Hes prided himself on players that fight, battle, carry off his instructions to a tee on the field. This lot dont do any of that, the recruitment has been horrifying
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They are following his instructions for the most part, we’re getting the possession he wants. Wonder how long it will be before he admits this season is now a battle for survival.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,185
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They are following his instructions for the most part, we’re getting the possession he wants. Wonder how long it will be before he admits this season is now a battle for survival.
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This is where he needs to own it in my view

We dont have the incisive players to play possesion

MVE
DaSilva
Tats
O'Hare
Wright

If we play on the counter and utilise them we will be a different team. Whys he not doing it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,186
Saddlebrains said:
This is where he needs to own it in my view

We dont have the incisive players to play possesion

MVE
DaSilva
Tats
O'Hare
Wright

If we play on the counter and utilise them we will be a different team. Whys he not doing it?
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As Frostie has alluded to he thinks that the possession based approach is more sustainable. Well from what I see, only the very best teams in the world can pull it off as the others don’t have the very high technical precision required, see Man City demolishing Utd on Sunday. Even England with the likes of Bellingham in the side look ponderous and slow trying it.

We have never had the players for it and long thrived on higher tempo football. Robins needs to drop this experiment before it gets worse.
 

alexccfc99

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,187
Saddlebrains said:
As I've said mate there's absolutely no relationships in the camp. The likes of Fadz, Allen, Godden, Callum etc have all tried to include the new signings, get them to a level on the training and matchday pitch, arrange to do things outside of the club, and its just not being reciprocated.

Apparently MVE is very egotistical and believes his own Rhetoric.


Take a look at Fadz interview yesterday. When has he ever been so downhearted? He didnt even know if Wright had a boy or a girl. Imagine that being the case between players for the last 3 or 4 seasons? That interview says it all to me, and I hope people realise this is the reason why I've said for a while we are genuinely in trouble this year.

Part of the reason as to Why Robins is so lost also. Hes prided himself on players that fight, battle, carry off his instructions to a tee on the field. This lot dont do any of that, the recruitment has been horrifying
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I’m sorry I’m all for pointing out when there’s things wrong, but this comment is the biggest and the most ridiculous reach to create an issue I have ever seen, when McFadzean actually said:

It is a big change for him, he has travelled over with his wife and child

If Wright would have put one of his chances away and he’d have said this no one would have batted an eyelid
 

Frostie

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,188
skybluecam said:
Wrong. West Brom had the better chances even after sitting on a lead for 75 mins. 1.96 xg v 1.82, 3 big chances v 2.
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Bit misleading given their first goal is basically a tap in to an empty net.
 

alexccfc99

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,189
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They are following his instructions for the most part, we’re getting the possession he wants. Wonder how long it will be before he admits this season is now a battle for survival.
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Call me blindly optimistic but I’m not even remotely concerned about a relegation battle as of yet
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 31, 2023
  • #1,190
alexccfc99 said:
Call me blindly optimistic but I’m not even remotely concerned about a relegation battle as of yet
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I will call you blindly optimistic if that’s alright
 
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