Matt smith
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Lati was superb today
I'm guessing the assistant ref has given it cause based on the video the ref hasn't seem what went on otherwise he'd have been there sooner. His reactions to the events seems that he's seen fuck all tbh.Not going to argue. The video is above and others can argue about unchangeable things. I can't see whether Kitching headbutted the SW player or not so won't go into that.
The initial jostling and reaction was behind the ref's back so unless the Lino saw anything, this will not be overturned.
It was you I was referring to.Not before me my friend
What was the gate?
What has the red seeing it or not got to do with it being overturned?Not going to argue. The video is above and others can argue about unchangeable things. I can't see whether Kitching headbutted the SW player or not so won't go into that.
The initial jostling and reaction was behind the ref's back so unless the Lino saw anything, this will not be overturned.
Come on no need to be rude. The referee is in control of the match, it’s something like law 5 or 6 of the FAs laws.
By controlling the match you control the players. I’ve done the course thanks, and have been consistently taught to intervene and calm the situation before it gets out of control. Same as my job in the policeIf you read it they control the match. They don't control the players actions. It isn't the the referees job to get in the middle of a fight/scuffle/bust up. Feel free to do the course, but it a thing taught consistently in my experience to not get in the middle of it. Get as many angles on it as possible between the officials and let the players break it up. He could have used his whistle perhaps.
Ref's statement will have a big impact on what the panel decide. And same with video evidence. Can we confirm if there is enough to show the incident completely ? I certainly can't from that admittedly poor video from the iFollow feed.What has the red seeing it or not got to do with it being overturned?
It will be overturned on video evidence.
Squad game anyway innit, the refreshing thing compared to last season is we can take players in and out of the side, keep them fresh, and pick a team for the opposition.Yeah, heard Oggy on the way home saying there are better options at DM but I thought he was very good today
You realise there's like 50 photographers there and go pros all around the pitch?Ref's statement will have a big impact on what the panel decide. And same with video evidence. Can we confirm if there is enough to show the incident completely ? I certainly can't from that admittedly poor video from the iFollow feed.
Who said the ref should have intervened? The ref should have got closer. And he has admitted he didn't see Kitching do anything wrong by the sound of it.If you read it they control the match. They don't control the players actions. It isn't the the referees job to get in the middle of a fight/scuffle/bust up. Feel free to do the course, but it a thing taught consistently in my experience to not get in the middle of it. Get as many angles on it as possible between the officials and let the players break it up. He could have used his whistle perhaps.
By controlling the match you control the players. I’ve done the course thanks, and have been consistently taught to intervene and calm the situation before it gets out of control. Same as my job in the police
So if the ref didn't see anything and the linesman didn't see anything the red card will stand?
So if a player was kicking another players head in who was on the deck, the ref should just stand and watch?Ok so I'll let Howard webb who was asked the question at the last referee event we had with the RAF FA know that he was wrong
So a ref that intervenes is in the wrong?Ok so I'll let Howard webb who was asked the question at the last referee event we had with the RAF FA know that he was wrong
Who said the ref should have intervened? The ref should have got closer. And he has admitted he didn't see Kitching do anything wrong by the sound of it.
Is it in the rules that a ref can give a red card because of what he thinks has happened or does the ref have to see the infringement?
Robins said the ref admitted to not seeing what happened. Yet you still try and make out the ref must have seen it.Okay Astute, didn't want to reply but I will with an obvious question: If neither of the officials saw anything, why did the Ref issue red cards and not yellows or warnings ? Are you absolutely certain that there is enough video evidence to change it ? How many stadium cameras do we have and how many do the EFL/PGMOL use to overturn decisions ?
No need to answer, this discussion has gone as far as it can as we're firmly in different camps and won't change either of our minds.
You realise there's like 50 photographers there and go pros all around the pitch?
Closer than he was. Yet he decided not to.How much closer should he have got exactly?
What are you exactly wanting me to say? I have said 3 times previously that he got the decision wrong and the he didn't see the initial scuffle.
So if a player was kicking another players head in who was on the deck, the ref should just stand and watch?
So this complete stranger disagrees with several yet it's the fault of everyone elseWell, I certainly hope they caught it as losing Kitching would be a blow. But I'm in a negative mood currently so don't think anything we say, complain or argue about will impact this. Think the red will stand.
Now, go enjoy your evening and stop arguing with a complete stranger about something we'll get the result for later this week
Closer than he was. Yet he decided not to.
The scuffle can escalate which is why you intervene at the earliest possible moment to calm the situation and keep controlThat's a completely different extreme isn't it. I would expect absolutely everyone to get involved if that was happening. For a police officer you should be aware of situational awareness. It's a bit silly to resort to an extreme example, which isn't common place unlike the scuffle that happened today.
Robins said the ref admitted to not seeing what happened. Yet you still try and make out the ref must have seen it.
Because you're doing exactly the same and trying to make excuses for what was previously said.Please see my response to Kizz. Don't know why you're still arguing the point. It's gone, we're not changing the decision. Move on and enjoy your day. We got the 3pts FFS.
I'd be surprised if nobody caught the event. And the refs admission should go a long way.I didn't see the incident as I was too busy standing up and cheering the victory.
But these things rarely get overturned, so I suspect we will just have to suck up the punishment.
Idiot Kitching
So dumb for Kitching to get a red card. Guess Binks has to step up now
Oh fucking hell Kitching you absolutely dickhead.
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Seen replay Kitching does fuck all and Weds player goes to headbutt him at least 3 times one that connects
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29208What was the gate?
Because you're doing exactly the same and trying to make excuses for what was previously said.
No the ref didn't see it. The linesman was a lot further away and with players in the way. But you say the ref shouldn't be on the scene watching. You say a red card means the incident was seen. And you continued to argue then blame everyone else for arguing.
Inch perfect finish.
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