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Match Thread Coventry City - Sheffield Wednesday Match Thread - Tuesday 26th Dec (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Dec 24, 2023
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Nuskyblue

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #526
Flying Fokker said:
The ref didn’t see it according to CWR. So reading his mind seems pretty reasonable.
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So he was guessing?
 

skybluegod

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #527
jim20 said:
Well looking at the video the ref was so slow to react and control the situation, Kitching had been hit 3 times before the ref did anything, so the ref should also be disciplined for lack of control
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Astute said:
Slow to react? The ref ran in the wrong direction at first.
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Both wrong. He did exactly what referees are trained to do, get a good view between you and your assistant and let it fizz out which it always does, once it calms down then step in.

Poor decision on Kitching based on what i saw but the process was not wrong and didn't 'run in the wrong direction'
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #528
skybluegod said:
Both wrong. He did exactly what referees are trained to do, get a good view between you and your assistant and let it fizz out which it always does, once it calms down then step in.

Poor decision on Kitching based on what i saw but the process was not wrong and didn't 'run in the wrong direction'
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Yet Robins says he didn't have a good view?
 

jim20

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #529
skybluegod said:
Both wrong. He did exactly what referees are trained to do, get a good view between you and your assistant and let it fizz out which it always does, once it calms down then step in.

Poor decision on Kitching based on what i saw but the process was not wrong and didn't 'run in the wrong direction'
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I disagree, they are meant to be in control of the game so should be calming the situation down before it escalates and someone gets hurt
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #530
skybluegod said:
Both wrong. He did exactly what referees are trained to do, get a good view between you and your assistant and let it fizz out which it always does, once it calms down then step in.

Poor decision on Kitching based on what i saw but the process was not wrong and didn't 'run in the wrong direction'
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he didn't actually get a good view though?
 

skybluegod

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #531
pusbccfc said:
Yet Robins says he didn't have a good view?
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He didn't at the original kicking off because he was blowing for full-time. Agreed. He did then correctly reposition himself. There is no way he saw the initial kicking off tho. I have said it's a poor decision.
 
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skybluegod

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #532
David O'Day said:
he didn't actually get a good view though?
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I literally said he got it wrong. I never said he got a good view of the original incident.
 

skybluegod

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #533
jim20 said:
I disagree, they are meant to be in control of the game so should be calming the situation down before it escalates and someone gets hurt
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You can disagree if you want, but it is what referees are trained to do. It is the team's responsibilities to control their players. Not the referee's job to get in the middle of it.
 

Briles

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #534
Sky Blue Pete said:
Won’t be fadz he’s right footed can’t run and can’t pass
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He can pass. And he's the best header of the ball bar kitching. Kitching is fadz replacement
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #535
On the game thought Eccles was excellent along with Wright, Kitching and Sakamoto. I think the red will be overturned but if we stay back 4 (which we should) I’d just slot Latibeaudiere in for Kitching and have Sheaf or Allen back in the midfield. Godden has a place in City hearts but he just doesn’t contribute enough now. Sid Simms is a better option then Godden is in real bother. Jan window get midfield cover and a striker on loan. Job done.
 

jim20

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #536
skybluegod said:
You can disagree if you want, but it is what referees are trained to do. It is the team's responsibilities to control their players. Not the referee's job to get in the middle of it.
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That is incorrect, the referee is in control
 
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Ashdown

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #537
Great result boys, excellent first half, Haji gets better every game. Get Callum signed up now please.
Tats….magical
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #538
Briles said:
He can pass. And he's the best header of the ball bar kitching. Kitching is fadz replacement
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He isn’t left footed
He’s slow
 
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ccfc922

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #539
Up the Cov ⚽️⚽️⚽️
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #540
Happy_Martian said:
Is there video online of the incident at the end ? Haven't seen it and everyone has a different take on what happened.
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Sheff Wed board think they both tried to butt the other
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #541
Sky Blue Pete said:
Sheff Wed board think they both tried to butt the other
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Just found one on Twitter. Looks like jostling between the two of them, some pushing, Kitching looks at him (may have said something) and the Wednesday player lost it.

 

Astute

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #542
skybluegod said:
Both wrong. He did exactly what referees are trained to do, get a good view between you and your assistant and let it fizz out which it always does, once it calms down then step in.

Poor decision on Kitching based on what i saw but the process was not wrong and didn't 'run in the wrong direction'
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The ref ran towards the touchline and not the goal where it happened. If he wanted a better view he should have run straight towards the incident.
 

skybluegod

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #543
jim20 said:
That is incorrect, the referee is in control
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You can't read can you?
 

skybluegod

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #544
Astute said:
The ref ran towards the touchline and not the goal where it happened. If he wanted a better view he should have run straight towards the incident.
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I'm not going to keep repeating myself he ran at an angle to get a better view. You are right he didn't run directly into it.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #545
skybluegod said:
I'm not going to keep repeating myself he ran at an angle to get a better view. You are right he didn't run directly into it.
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There was too many players in between the ref and what happened to be able to see what was going on by going in the wrong direction.
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #546
This is funny. PLEASE CHECK THE TWITTER VIDEO I JUST POSTED. The initial contact happened behind the ref, he turned, saw it and then jogged toward the incident. Once the other players intervened, he ran across the penalty area to be with the linesman.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #547
Tommo1993 said:
Latibeaudiere well under the radar. Top class performance.
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Yeah, heard Oggy on the way home saying there are better options at DM but I thought he was very good today
 
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dadgad

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #548
What was the gate?
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #549
Astute said:
There was too many players in between the ref and what happened to be able to see what was going on by going in the wrong direction.
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The bits he saw, there were 2 players between him and Kitching/the Sheff Weds player.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #550
CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, heard Oggy on the way home saying there are better options at DM but I thought he was very good today
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The only better option was injured.
 
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skybluegod

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #551
Astute said:
There was too many players in between the ref and what happened to be able to see what was going on by going in the wrong direction.
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You keep repeating yourself, but it doesn't make it correct. We aren't going to agree, all I can say is every referee in my league group, have watched the incident agreed there is nothing in the video to suggest Kitching should be sent off but the referees repositioning is what we should do. If you don't agree then ok fair enough.
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #552
itsabuzzard said:
Some people were making just this prediction some time ago...
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Not before me my friend
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #553
dadgad said:
What was the gate?
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29,200.
 

Astute

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #554
Happy_Martian said:
The bits he saw, there were 2 players between him and Kitching/the Sheff Weds player.
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And he couldn't see past the other players. Hopefully Kitching didn't do anything to deserve a red and the ref guessed what happened.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #555
pusbccfc said:
29,200.
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Lots of empty seats about. I’m guessing cos Christmas.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #556
shmmeee said:
Lots of empty seats about. I’m guessing cos Christmas.
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And they would have sold. People were desperate for tickets online yesterday.

They need to look into a resale system. Could have sold another 1500 tickets.
 
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skybluegod

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #557
Astute said:
And he couldn't see past the other players. Hopefully Kitching didn't do anything to deserve a red and the ref guessed what happened.
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The assistant referee does have a good view of it all, and they would have been communicating. Would interesting to see what they say is the reason for Kitching to also go.
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #558
Astute said:
And he couldn't see past the other players. Hopefully Kitching didn't do anything to deserve a red and the ref guessed what happened.
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Not going to argue. The video is above and others can argue about unchangeable things. I can't see whether Kitching headbutted the SW player or not so won't go into that.

The initial jostling and reaction was behind the ref's back so unless the Lino saw anything, this will not be overturned.
 

jim20

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  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #559
skybluegod said:
You can't read can you?
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Come on no need to be rude. The referee is in control of the match, it’s something like law 5 or 6 of the FAs laws.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 26, 2023
  • #560
Happy_Martian said:
Not going to argue. The video is above and others can argue about unchangeable things. I can't see whether Kitching headbutted the SW player or not so won't go into that.

The initial jostling and reaction was behind the ref's back so unless the Lino saw anything, this will not be overturned.
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So if the ref didn't see anything and the linesman didn't see anything the red card will stand?
 
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