Grendel
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the strikers have to perform or we will not get enough goals. The jury is very much out on them
the strikers have to perform or we will not get enough goals. The jury is very much out on themIt's a much stronger squad, still missing a certain something in the centre mid though. Good thing is we actually have a decent January war chest for once. No more Sean Maguires.
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I think probably upwards of 10 still but I wouldn't expect us to spunk all that in January at all. Thinking maybe we've identified a midfielder we'd like in the 2-4 million bracket.Prob have 7m odd to spend still of the transfer income from gyok and hamer sales I reckon
We have a strong squad. All that's missing is an out and out hamer replacement marquee signing for centre mid.
Recruitment looks good so far to me. It's only October so lots of improvement to come over course of season yet too.
Nothing preventing us agreeing such a deal before January so it goes through when the window opens.I think probably upwards of 10 still but I wouldn't expect us to spunk all that in January at all. Thinking maybe we've identified a midfielder we'd like in the 2-4 million bracket.
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the strikers have to perform or we will not get enough goals. The jury is very much out on them
As I've said before, that's part of Robins' job. Good money has been spent and the pressure will be on to get the best from them. The squad still has much more quality on the whole though, when everyone is fit. As you'd expect from a £20 million spending spree tbf.the strikers have to perform or we will not get enough goals. The jury is very much out on them
This is how I saw it yesterday.
First half, we weren’t particularly great. A lot of people have accused Simms and Wright of being poor but in reality they had no service. They both made some intelligent runs but the ball never found them quickly enough. The notion that they’re ‘lazy’ is ridiculous. The formation we play is not a pressing formation. They are clearly instructed not to pointlessly press as there is far too much space behind them. Doing so would badly expose us.
When Allen plays deep we nullify his main attributes. On a few occasions he tried to switch play and put the ball out of play. It’s not his game sadly and he is an asset as an attacking midfielder.
Ayari had a quiet first half but I thought he was excellent second half. He has the ability to glide past players and get shots away. I think he will be a tremendous player.
Sakamoto was excellent all game, he didn’t stop running and his touch is exquisite. If he can add more end product to his game he will be some player for us.
Finally, MVE changed the game. He lifted the crowd and got us going. What a player he is.
Overall there were many encouraging signs we are developing into a very good team
100% agree… desperate for a midfielder who can use the ball intelligently and feed the strikers.This is how I saw it yesterday.
First half, we weren’t particularly great. A lot of people have accused Simms and Wright of being poor but in reality they had no service. They both made some intelligent runs but the ball never found them quickly enough. The notion that they’re ‘lazy’ is ridiculous. The formation we play is not a pressing formation. They are clearly instructed not to pointlessly press as there is far too much space behind them. Doing so would badly expose us.
When Allen plays deep we nullify his main attributes. On a few occasions he tried to switch play and put the ball out of play. It’s not his game sadly and he is an asset as an attacking midfielder.
Ayari had a quiet first half but I thought he was excellent second half. He has the ability to glide past players and get shots away. I think he will be a tremendous player.
Sakamoto was excellent all game, he didn’t stop running and his touch is exquisite. If he can add more end product to his game he will be some player for us.
Finally, MVE changed the game. He lifted the crowd and got us going. What a player he is.
Overall there were many encouraging signs we are developing into a very good team
I think Lati played well in midfield when he came on. I really like his versatility. With so many defenders on the books we could play Lati in midfield next to Sheaf.And play who next to Sheaf? Ayari?
Don't disagree with any of that. My only point is if the strikers aren't getting much service, play the man who's most effective at feeding off scraps.
I think people jumping the gun saying it was a panic signingI said a couple of times I thought Ayari should have gone to L1 for a season, after watching him yesterday I think I was being unfair.
I think one day he'll reach Hamer levels, but it won't be with us.
Why let something like facts get in the way?Allen has played 75 championship games in the last two seasons
Yeah it got described as a “crazy” idea, which was bizarre.Interesting that robins was impressed with wright ayari and Simms pressing yesterday. He said it stopped Norwich coming at them constantly
Yet forum members believe they are lazy and won't start again or boys in a man's league etc.
Few thoughts on the last couple of pages:
1. I don’t think the Simms and Wright combination was as disastrous as is being made out. Given time I think there could be something there, but we don’t really have the time to give them the opportunity and Godden needs to come back in.
2. On a similar note, I think we’ve dropped a bit of a bollock bringing in 2 strikers for big money. The natural expectation from that is they’ll play together, but we looked far more effective last season with the box midfield. It also gives us a lot more defensive protection. Godden is standing out as the best we have at the moment but can’t really play up top on his own and, if I’m frank, I’m not convinced any could fulfil that role.
3. Ayari looks…ok. I’m sure he’ll go onto great things but, if I’m honest, with the money at our disposal I’m a little disappointed we went for a loan player we have to work really hard with to develop. Would have preferred someone with a bit more experience.
I’d imagine we tried to strengthen the midfield but ended up being quoted hugely inflated fees as clubs knew we were desperate and had received a decent fee.Few thoughts on the last couple of pages:
1. I don’t think the Simms and Wright combination was as disastrous as is being made out. Given time I think there could be something there, but we don’t really have the time to give them the opportunity and Godden needs to come back in.
2. On a similar note, I think we’ve dropped a bit of a bollock bringing in 2 strikers for big money. The natural expectation from that is they’ll play together, but we looked far more effective last season with the box midfield. It also gives us a lot more defensive protection. Godden is standing out as the best we have at the moment but can’t really play up top on his own and, if I’m frank, I’m not convinced any could fulfil that role.
3. Ayari looks…ok. I’m sure he’ll go onto great things but, if I’m honest, with the money at our disposal I’m a little disappointed we went for a loan player we have to work really hard with to develop. Would have preferred someone with a bit more experience.
Tbf you're right on this one, if we are to take the managers word they were simply doing exactly what was asked of them. Robins doesn't tend to praise players for the sake of it.Interesting that robins was impressed with wright ayari and Simms pressing yesterday. He said it stopped Norwich coming at them constantly
Yet forum members believe they are lazy and won't start again or boys in a man's league etc.
That's because they didn't fly around trying to press high too much despite what the crowd wanted, they blocked the passing lines out for Norwich.Interesting that robins was impressed with wright ayari and Simms pressing yesterday. He said it stopped Norwich coming at them constantly
Yet forum members believe they are lazy and won't start again or boys in a man's league etc.
Well if it wasn’t Godden and it wasn’t Wright…Who was then ?
Our fans have never been great at judging strikers, the Morrell vs ‘lazy’ John being a prime example.That's because they didn't fly around trying to press high too much despite what the crowd wanted, they blocked the passing lines out for Norwich.
People were giving them dogs abuse behind me saying they were lazy but it was quite clear it was a tactical decision to sit in and let them have the ball between their keeper and their centre halves and not over commit and leave gaps to expose the midfield.
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But people on here reckon they know what robins wants better than the players do.Tbf you're right on this one, if we are to take the managers word they were simply doing exactly what was asked of them. Robins doesn't tend to praise players for the sake of it.
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I think that's what shmmeee was on about with the "best passer in the final third"He gets into very good positions then unleashes his trademark floated shot back to the goalkeeper
The two strikers I believe were told not to press yesterday as Norwich had a midfielder that dropped deep who would allow them to be easily passed aroundThis is how I saw it yesterday.
First half, we weren’t particularly great. A lot of people have accused Simms and Wright of being poor but in reality they had no service. They both made some intelligent runs but the ball never found them quickly enough. The notion that they’re ‘lazy’ is ridiculous. The formation we play is not a pressing formation. They are clearly instructed not to pointlessly press as there is far too much space behind them. Doing so would badly expose us.
When Allen plays deep we nullify his main attributes. On a few occasions he tried to switch play and put the ball out of play. It’s not his game sadly and he is an asset as an attacking midfielder.
Ayari had a quiet first half but I thought he was excellent second half. He has the ability to glide past players and get shots away. I think he will be a tremendous player.
Sakamoto was excellent all game, he didn’t stop running and his touch is exquisite. If he can add more end product to his game he will be some player for us.
Finally, MVE changed the game. He lifted the crowd and got us going. What a player he is.
Overall there were many encouraging signs we are developing into a very good team
I’d imagine we tried to strengthen the midfield but ended up being quoted hugely inflated fees as clubs knew we were desperate and had received a decent fee.
He is improving though, could be a valuable asset as we give him more game time when we start to reintroduce O'hare. We could give them a half each without having to change the system too much.I said a couple of times I thought Ayari should have gone to L1 for a season, after watching him yesterday I think I was being unfair.
I think one day he'll reach Hamer levels, but it won't be with us.
Intelligent pressing after all lolThe two strikers I believe were told not to press yesterday as Norwich had a midfielder that dropped deep who would allow them to be easily passed around
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Intelligent pressing after all lol
Asking for a "press" has become an easy word to throw around. Like Fernando said, had they gone pressing like 2 puppies chasing after a ball, the midfielder dropping deep for Norwich could have easily collected and caught them out of position.
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