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Match Thread Coventry City - Mansfield Town Match Thread - Saturday 11th Nov (11 Viewers)

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Esoterica

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #701
Updated with the Mansfield result (didn't make the minor adjustments to team's league positions yet):

 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #702
ccfcway said:
in which case we are in the play offs at the end of the season
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Unlikely
 

ccfcway

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #703
Grendel said:
Unlikely
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your disagreeing with a league table ?
 

Esoterica

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #704
Interesting comments albeit slightly bias. Says the Doyle first half penalty was a slip, gives a good insight into how teams feel coming to the Ricoh, felt sorry for Burge as the ball moved in two directions and doesn't think we created a chance all game.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #705
Oh, so Grendel's 'stonewall' penalty wasn't a penalty at all then as many of us said. The player himself has now said he slipped. Ref bang on with that decision and from the replay you can clearly see Doyle pulling out of the challenge.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #706
ccfcway said:
your disagreeing with a league table ?
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The notion you can stick a league table and merely extrapolate it for the whole season is absurd. It means no teams below would extract more points per game then they are now. History shows teams do - Exeter were near the bottom and ended up in the play offs.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #707
Otis said:
Oh, so Grendel's 'stonewall' penalty wasn't a penalty at all then as many of us said. The player himself has now said he slipped. Ref bang on with that decision and from the replay you can clearly see Doyle pulling out of the challenge.
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It was a clear penalty contact was made by Doyle who charged at him and made contact. The laws of the game are clear.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #708
Grendel said:
It was a clear penalty contact was made by Doyle who charged at him and made contact. The laws of the game are clear.
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The lad himself said he slipped. The player says it wasn't a penalty. You arguing with the player himself at the centre of the incident?

Okey dokey.

Let's leave it there then eh.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #709
Grendel said:
It was a clear penalty contact was made by Doyle who charged at him and made contact. The laws of the game are clear.
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Geoff Hurst's shot did go over the line against Germany - time to end all of this. Be glad when the Lincoln game is under way!
 

stevefloyd

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #710
But from the horses mouth it wasn't
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #711
Otis said:
The lad himself said he slipped. The player says it wasn't a penalty. You arguing with the player himself at the centre of the incident?

Okey dokey.

Let's leave it there then eh.
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Wasn’t he the player already booked for simulation during the game?
 

stevefloyd

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #712
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Geoff Hurst's shot did go over the line against Germany - time to end all of this. Be glad when the Lincoln game is under way!
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Lets hope we don't lose that one its only a couple of days after the game and still at each others throats
 

Otis

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #713
Grendel said:
Wasn’t he the player already booked for simulation during the game?
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Nope. Same player, but he got booked after. Slip incident in the first half, simulation was in the second.
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #714
The one on Hemmings looked more blatant at the time in the 2nd half, haven't seen that back though.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #715
Otis said:
Nope. Same player, but he got booked after. Slip incident in the first half, simulation was in the second.
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Yes I mean he’s been booked for simulation during the game. As the referee saw fit not to give a penalty I would suggest he’s not really going to want too much attention on the incident - wouldn’t you?
 

Otis

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #716
Nick said:
The one on Hemmings looked more blatant at the time in the 2nd half, haven't seen that back though.
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Was that the last one? I didn't see that. Think most people think that was a pen.
 

stevefloyd

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #717
the last one looked very much like a pen probably stonewall to me
 

ccfcway

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #718
Grendel said:
The notion you can stick a league table and merely extrapolate it for the whole season is absurd. It means no teams below would extract more points per game then they are now. History shows teams do - Exeter were near the bottom and ended up in the play offs.
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so, Exeter maintained their form when near the bottom of the table and yet ended up in the play offs ? that's absurd !
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #719
Grendel said:
Yes I mean he’s been booked for simulation during the game. As the referee saw fit not to give a penalty I would suggest he’s not really going to want too much attention on the incident - wouldn’t you?
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As you can get done for diving after the game now like the player did before.

Would be interesting to know if you could if you had been booked in a different time in the game for it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #720
Otis said:
Was that the last one? I didn't see that. Think most people think that was a pen.
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It was when he went mental at the ref and got booked.
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #721
it was a clumsy foul and a pen imo
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #722
covcity4life said:
it was a clumsy foul and a pen imo
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Which one ?
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #723
Johnnythespider said:
Which one ?
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one when came into him from behind or something. tbh i wud say both were pens,we got lucky
 

Esoterica

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #724
My immediate reaction to that late one was Penalty. Looked like a clumsy trip and a 2nd yellow for McDonald.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #725
ccfcway said:
so, Exeter maintained their form when near the bottom of the table and yet ended up in the play offs ? that's absurd !
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No - you are saying if we maintain our form we will end up in the play offs - that assumes no club below us will improve.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #726
Otis said:
McNulty, Nazon and Ponticelli for starters.
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Ponti and the Duck the jury is still out on.
Ponti is only just getting his chance.
The Duck looks like he can put the ball in the back of net. The only question is if he can do it consistently.
McNulty is not ruthless. He is a good player at this level but not a ruthless finisher.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #727
Nick said:
I'm pretty sure I'm asking you about the chances that happened arent I?

You keep saying there are loads, name them.
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I actually quoted Mark Robins response after the match. (He saw the match as well)
The chances are spoken about on here and in the match report. You also went to the game (Which gives you a superior opinion,)
So I assume you saw the chances?
 

ccfcway

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #728
Grendel said:
No - you are saying if we maintain our form we will end up in the play offs - that assumes no club below us will improve.
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and that no club above us gets worse

I assume the below is a waste of time as well then ?

GW17 - Where we WILL finish this season
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #729
dongonzalos said:
I actually quoted Mark Robins response after the match. (He saw the match as well)
The chances are spoken about on here and in the match report. You also went to the game (Which gives you a superior opinion,)
So I assume you saw the chances?
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So you aren't going to list them all then? You keep banging on the same about how there are so many but never seem to want to discuss them.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #730
singers_pore said:
It's funny how we seem to have more chances and goals when The Duck is playing. You seem not to realize that many goals are created by strikers themselves. It's relatively rare for goals to be scored on a plate, which it seems how you define a "chance". I am sure if you look back at the goals we have scored this season, you would not have classed them as "good chances" if they had not actually gone in the net.

How about the Mansfield goal yesterday? Would you have called that a chance if it had missed or been saved? No, I don't think so.
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Well said that man!!!!
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #731
dongonzalos said:
I actually quoted Mark Robins response after the match. (He saw the match as well)
The chances are spoken about on here and in the match report. You also went to the game (Which gives you a superior opinion,)
So I assume you saw the chances?
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Robins said we were unlucky to lose -we we weren’t and we created very little after the first 15 minutes.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #732
ccfcway said:
and that no club above us gets worse

I assume the below is a waste of time as well then ?

GW17 - Where we WILL finish this season
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Correct - it is a waste of time - if you ran this over current form so it takes real short term variables of may have more merit but it’s very crude and basic.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #733
Nick said:
It was when he went mental at the ref and got booked.
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That was the second one wasn't it? Getting confused now.

First one is where the ref said no pen, Doyle stepped out of the challenge and the player says he slipped.

Second one was in the second half and he got booked for simulation. I did think that was a pen.

Third one I didn't see.

So you talking about the second one?
 

Otis

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  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #734
Grendel said:
Robins said we were unlucky to lose -we we weren’t and we created very little after the first 15 minutes.
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Managers often sugar coat it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 13, 2017
  • #735
No, it was a different one with the other striker. He got booked just after for shouting at the ref.
 
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