sky blue john
Well-Known Member
Is there anyone that Sisu don't try to bully ?
I'm still not sure on the legalities of it though with changing contracts mid term. Surely agents, lawyers and the PFA would have been involved to represent the player rights in regards to it?
Yes, SISU are c***s yet some on here still think that players are blameless and despite getting us relegated they deserve £1M between them. Well sorry, but I don't think failure should be rewarded
Yes, SISU are c***s yet some on here still think that players are blameless and despite getting us relegated they deserve £1M between them. Well sorry, but I don't think failure should be rewarded
I agree, is it any wonder players didn't give a shit when they will still getting bonuses whether we won or lost and got relegated?
I agree, is it any wonder players didn't give a shit when they will still getting bonuses whether we won or lost and got relegated?
I can confirm Lynch does have insider news and anything that he says regards the inside of this club should be accepted as true. If you guys continue to question good insider info like this then people like Lynch and CovKingChris will just keep their mouths shut and you'll not know anything until its released in national press.
I don't believe the CKC got this info from his Dad the sky man on the eve of it's release in the national press. Sounds more likely to have come from a more reliable source.
If you offer a contract then you should stick by it. Not the players fault they were offered a contract with bonuses in regardless of league position.
Surely they should offer for future reference a contract which STATES relegation means no bonus.
SISU are cunts yet some on here still think what there doing is best for the club. Well sorry but i don't have that.
I'm still not sure on the legalities of it though with changing contracts mid term. Surely agents, lawyers and the PFA would have been involved to represent the player rights in regards to it?
Surely they should have offered contracts stating no bonus for poor performance (Relegation) Im sure other clubs do/would.
Don't agree with that at all. Yes the players are under contract, but those players underperformed.
For years fans have moaned that if the average man on the street underperformed as much as players do, we'd be sacked. This isn't even as bad as that, the club are saying - you underperformed and yet we still paid you bonuses. Now we'd like to re-negotiate your contract so that it never happens again and you are rewarded for success.
No-one is holding a gun to their heads. If they sign then great, if not, then SISU try to offload them.
I don't see the problem and i'm behind the club completely on this one. We all know that it isn't just the players who were at fault last season and SISU need to take responsibility. We could spend the next 5 years pointing fingers, but its time to act and try to make changes to get back to where we were, and it appears thats what SISU are doing.
Maybe this is a Waggot / Fisher thing? If all the new players already have this maybe it is something they are trying to do where as Kenneth wasn't as clued up?
The club paid out the thick end of £1million in bonuses last season - in a year
when we were relegated. We feel this is not acceptable and had to change. The
players have responded in engaging in mature sit down discussions.'
I can confirm Lynch does have insider news and anything that he says regards the inside of this club should be accepted as true. If you guys continue to question good insider info like this then people like Lynch and CovKingChris will just keep their mouths shut and you'll not know anything until its released in national press.
I don't believe the CKC got this info from his Dad the sky man on the eve of it's release in the national press. Sounds more likely to have come from a more reliable source.
With this coming to light now it makes it even more obvious that Cranie and Keogh were never going to stay.
SISU have been in charge while offering all these contracts. They should have stated no bonus for relegation.
I work in a place where pay-cuts have been occurring and the morale is at an all time low.
By the way, i agree regarding players getting far too much but deep down that's not there fault to be paid a high wage for such a privilege.
Handing out bonuses to any of our players last season is like getting marks on an exam for spelling your name right on the cover.
Or coming on as a sub.
My guess (and it's only a guess) is that there were promotion bonuses in the initial contracts. Because these were signed when we were a Championship club, they would have been based on promotion to the riches of the Premier League, and so would have been understandably high.
Now we're in League 1, a high promotion bonus would be far out of proportion with the actual achievement of winning promotion. Since the bonuses would be based on receiving a Premier League income rather than a Championship one, it might even be the case that paying out the previous bonuses would put the club in a really bad state financially.
As I say, just a guess but if that's the case it sounds fairly sensible to me.
As for the legality of it, I assume it's fine. Only like offering a player a new contract midway through their previous deal.
No I'm sorry this is a disgrace... this is not the way... honour your contracts SISU - you are ruining our clubs reputation
Clearly SISU should have never let it get to a situation where we were paying out nearly £1m in bonuses in a season we got relegated. In Tim Fishers response, he mentions that people were paid for appearences as opposed to success. So i imagine the majority of bonuses were paid out during the course of the season - so in essence its not a reward for failure, more of a reward for turning up!
But the reality is, we are where we are - we had to make changes to contracts to ensure that didn't happen again, and thats what SISU have done. If this had come out and the story was that the club had done nothing, then i'm sure we'd all be even more angry with SISU for not acting.
Like Freddy @ Forrest,bizzarre that one. This must be afairly standard formula across the leagues ,appearance money making up part of the wage ,part of the £5-6 k. we here quoted so as not to give someone injured or off form their full rate.Yes - I mean do they actually get a "bonus" for a last minute sub appearance!! :facepalm::facepalm:
Its interesting but when you look at the bigger picture SISU are to blame for the turmoil OUR club is in. They are now at the stage where they'll cost cut in ANYWAY however this will have a lasting affect on the players including 4 players who are influential to our promotion charge.
How is it a disgrace? The club are putting more emphasis on bonuses for winning rather than just turning up. They said that if we have a successful season then players will earn around the same bonuses as they did before. I applaud this as it makes players want to win and acheive rather than go through the motions and potentially cost the club serious money for no reward.
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