Ring Of Steel
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Thats one idea, yes, just have it 'do its thing' and kill a few people before they have to aggravate the NHS.
If you can't stop something, surely there's a good argument for letting it do its thing, and working instead to try and make sure it doesn't overwhelm the health service.
Otherwise aren't you just delaying the inevitable? People can't stay inside forever.
Yeah because I obviously said that what I want to do is kill off a few people...Thats one idea, yes, just have it 'do its thing' and kill a few people before they have to aggravate the NHS.
If you can't stop something, surely there's a good argument for letting it do its thing, and working instead to try and make sure it doesn't overwhelm the health service.
Otherwise aren't you just delaying the inevitable? People can't stay inside forever.
Of course there's always the risk it mutates and, because people haven't been exposed to the 'mild' original, they have no tolerance built up, so many die anyway...the virus mutates and reinfects people and more vulnerable people die.
Of course there's always the risk it mutates and, because people haven't been exposed to the 'mild' original, they have no tolerance built up, so many die anyway...
There's nothing to be done apart from follow the advice of the medical experts and, if they say we shouldn't go into lockdown, then we shouldn't. I can't control anything other than accept that many people have far more training in this than I, and therefore I have to bow to their wisdom.
I think the problem is there’s very much two schools of thought among medical experts. And most countries seem to be going with the other one.
I think the problem is there’s very much two schools of thought among medical experts. And most countries seem to be going with the other one.
They don’t - we haven’t reached the escalation point and also it’s making zero difference in these countries rate of outbreak anyway
Apparently the Earl of Mercia in town has just shut as someone has collapsed in there and has symptoms. Wont take too much more of this sort of thing to happen before lots of places start shutting altogether for a week or two.
You think lockdown in China didn’t do anything?
You think lockdown in China didn’t do anything?
All dayer with flu symptoms in Spoons?
The lockdown in China forced people Gmk remain in their homes and certainly wouldn’t have given them any state intervention through loss of earnings at all. Of course if everyone is under house arrest and under curfew but I thought you said you needed to earn money?
It will. What we can't do, however, is criticise pre-emptively. I'm not even sure we can after the event tbh.Time will tell if that’s wise.
You’re all over the place as usual. We are discussing medical advice and when to put in social distancing measures not economic relief after the fact.
Look at most European countries with a similar infection rate to us, we are definitely the outlier. Time will tell if that’s wise.
It will. What we can't do, however, is criticise pre-emptively. I'm not even sure we can after the event tbh.
Nowt on telegraph site. Also you don't just collapse because of covid-19.Apparently the Earl of Mercia in town has just shut as someone has collapsed in there and has symptoms. Wont take too much more of this sort of thing to happen before lots of places start shutting altogether for a week or two.
Nowt on telegraph site. Also you don't just collapse because of covid-19.
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Highly unlikely anything to do with CoronaAll dayer with flu symptoms in Spoons?
Highly unlikely anything to do with Corona
You'd stick to the floor thoughYou do if you want to make a claim.
What would be really useful is some data on how effective children are at spreading this.
There isn't much but very very few have been original source .
There might be some connection to exposure of previous Corona building immunity , assume that would be among 10-20 age group.
Something I was reading was saying that because symptoms are so mild in children they don’t often get tested and show up as a lower incidence rate in many stats but apparently if you look at some countries that have done extensive testing it shows children get it at the same rate as the rest of the population.
Examples Hong Kong , Singapore.Actually you can.
NPR Choice page
Every country which had a clear, aggressive plan & acted early is doing better.
Ashish Jha, who runs the Harvard Global Health Institute, says the response to the coronavirus has varied dramatically around the world. "Some countries have been very aggressive and have actually done quite a good job," he says. "Other countries have been quite lackadaisical and, I think, have suffered immensely from it. And I think there are lessons to be learned for all of us."
Italy and Iran both fall in the latter category. Jha says that before cases of COVID-19 were first diagnosed, Italy and Iran appeared to be in denial about the disease.
"I mean, you had the Iran deputy health minister coughing on national television talking about coronavirus," Jha says. "But really not taking it seriously."
That deputy health minister later tested positive for the virus.
As people started to get sick, neither Italy nor Iran did much testing. They were slow to stop mass gatherings. Eventually both countries were overwhelmed with cases.
never hurt SpidermanWouldn't people who wear a mask week in, week out have more chance of having a weaker immune system?
I guess in terms of coughing, spluttering and spreading that way would be unlikely as no symptoms.Something I was reading was saying that because symptoms are so mild in children they don’t often get tested and show up as a lower incidence rate in many stats but apparently if you look at some countries that have done extensive testing it shows children get it at the same rate as the rest of the population.
You are spot on- Singapore tested all children and if positive they took action to stop them spreading it even though they didn't exhibit any symptoms.
Singapore is hardly the same as here - again it’s another hugely oppressive regime
With regard to the criticism of when to go with social distancing there was a suggestion from the BBC correspondent at that first briefing , that there may have been some disparity between the scientific and govt stance.
You could never do exactly what they did, but the principle remains. We did nothing apart from parade some experts out and have Johnson talk about shaking hands with sufferers.
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