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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,896
LastGarrison said:
Lancaster Leipzig University have just moved all of their teaching online as the number of Covid cases has moved above 35 per 100,000 in the last 7 days and they won't return to hybrid teaching until the city of Leipzig has stayed below the figure of 35 new cases per day for 3 consecutive days:

https://www.lancasterleipzig.de/.../corona.../latest-updates

I'm sure the Cannon Park/University area is currently on just below 2000 cases per 100,000.
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Universities should be open for practical subjects only, as should schools
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,897
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Universities should be open for practical subjects only, as should schools
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Certainly doing that in unis and secondary schools would make sense in high transmission areas. It’s the same all over Europe though. France and Germany are currently announcing new, tighter ‘lockdowns’ but leaving schools open I think
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,898
CCFCSteve said:
Certainly unis and secondary schools would make sense. It’s the same all over Europe though. France and Germany are currently announcing new, tighter ‘lockdowns’ but leaving schools open I think
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They are and I think they're wrong on that as well unless they have different data
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,899
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They are and I think they're wrong on that as well unless they have different data
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I agree, as you and others have said, the other elements appear to be just fiddling round the edges
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,900
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Universities should be open for practical subjects only, as should schools
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How would that actually work in reality?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,901
Grendel said:
How would that actually work in reality?
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I had in mind year groups being in on a fortnightly rotation weighted most heavily in favour of the senior year groups, allowing practical subjects to be delivered close to normal and the rooms to be deep cleaned at the end of the day. In most schools these subjects tend to be in the same block making implementation easier
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,902
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I had in mind year groups being in on a fortnightly rotation weighted most heavily in favour of the senior year groups, allowing practical subjects to be delivered close to normal and the rooms to be deep cleaned at the end of the day. In most schools these subjects tend to be in the same block making implementation easier
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So they would be in school all day? In universities surely people going would be from separate halls and spread the virus anyway
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,903
Grendel said:
So they would be in school all day? In universities surely people going would be from separate halls and spread the virus anyway
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Universities are able to come up with justifications, academically, why you need access to other items such as the rare books, archives etc. Got to be all or nothing with them, really.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,904
Grendel said:
So they would be in school all day? In universities surely people going would be from separate halls and spread the virus anyway
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They would be in school all day for a couple of days in a fortnight at most. Universities would be able to manage this more easily and just send home those in non-practical courses to free up and collapse accommodation space for the (small) remainder. You can't teach Science/DT/Art/Drama/Medicine remotely all year whereas you can for the bulk of other subjects
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,905
Deleted member 5849 said:
Universities are able to come up with justifications, academically, why you need access to other items such as the rare books, archives etc. Got to be all or nothing with them, really.
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That is surely much easier to do by appointment than it is to deliver predominantly practical subjects that require labs?
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,906
Sky Blue Pete said:
Daily infection rate only going up and another 310 deaths

Been very quiet from Boris
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Is he hiding in the fridge again?
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,907
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They would be in school all day for a couple of days in a fortnight at most. Universities would be able to manage this more easily and just send home those in non-practical courses to free up and collapse accommodation space for the (small) remainder. You can't teach Science/DT/Art/Drama/Medicine remotely all year whereas you can for the bulk of other subjects
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If parents were working and had children specialising in science and others not how would they be able to make this work?
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,908
Anyway I think lockdown will not be an option - I expect this to be a common theme across Europe

Coronavirus: Lockdown protesters in Italy throw bottles and smoke bombs as stricter rules come in

Thousands have taken to the streets to object to night-time curfews and an order to close gyms, cinemas, and swimming pools.
www.google.co.uk
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,909
Grendel said:
If parents were working and had children specialising in science and others not how would they be able to make this work?
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It could work in a similar way to the arrangements in the summer term. Likely to be less of an issue due to more parents working from home
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,910
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It could work in a similar way to the arrangements in the summer term. Likely to be less of an issue due to more parents working from home
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What if one works in a factory and another is a nurse?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,911
Grendel said:
What if one works in a factory and another is a nurse?
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If we're down to essential workers only who can't get care then they would be entitled to come in. I should add that in a school of approximately 2000, we had maybe 15-20 needing such provision in the summer term. It isn't a deal breaker and I think you'd agree with the overriding view that it isn't fair on practical subjects to not be able to do practical work for a whole year
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,912
Grendel said:
Anyway I think lockdown will not be an option - I expect this to be a common theme across Europe

Coronavirus: Lockdown protesters in Italy throw bottles and smoke bombs as stricter rules come in

Thousands have taken to the streets to object to night-time curfews and an order to close gyms, cinemas, and swimming pools.
www.google.co.uk
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You were saying that in the Spring though.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,913
djr8369 said:
You were saying that in the Spring though.
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I wasn’t - is this fake news?
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,914
So France and Germany going back into Lockdown.

Only a matter of time now for us surely? With Boris the follower
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,915
Saddlebrains said:
So France and Germany going back into Lockdown.

Only a matter of time now for us surely? With Boris the follower
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Depends what the focus groups say
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,916
Saddlebrains said:
So France and Germany going back into Lockdown.

Only a matter of time now for us surely? With Boris the follower
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SAGE recommended lockdown on 21st September and subsequently said that the longer it was left the less effective it would be.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,917
Saddlebrains said:
So France and Germany going back into Lockdown.

Only a matter of time now for us surely? With Boris the follower
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....but schools remain open in both countries....as they should in the UK.
 

Ian1779

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,918
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
....but schools remain open in both countries....as they should in the UK.
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If you want to keep transmitting the virus then sure.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,919
Ian1779 said:
If you want to keep transmitting the virus then sure.
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Why are we so slow again?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,920
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
....but schools remain open in both countries....as they should in the UK.
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The kids in those year group 'bubbles' are mixing like there's no tomorrow
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,921
Ian1779 said:
If you want to keep transmitting the virus then sure.
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The social, mental and educational damage is too great.....at risk registers and referrals thru the roof.....


....we've simply gotta find a way to keep them open imho
 
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Ian1779

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,922
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why are we so slow again?
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Ideology trumps science.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,923
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
The social, mental and educational damage is too great.....at risk registers and referrals thru the roof.....


....we've simply gotta find a way to keep them open imho
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You could have stuck an extra week on the half term to begin with, and just made sure those Tory c**** provide food for those that need it. No impact educationally whatsoever.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,924
Ian1779 said:
You could have stuck an extra week on the half term to begin with, and just made sure those Tory c**** provide food for those that need it. No impact educationally whatsoever.
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Lets be honest if you can't afford to feed your child you're doing something incredibly wrong.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,925
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
The social, mental and educational damage is too great.....at risk registers and referrals thru the roof.....


....we've simply gotta find a way to keep them open imho
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If people gave a shit about educational damage they'd let me teach outside of a fucking box and let me do practical work with them.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,926
It’s got to be full lockdowns over the holidays and maybe extended half terms, so you get a two week lockdown every month and a half or so (if the data shows you need it obviously).

If they were smart they’d have reorganised school terms with maybe slightly longer semesters and longer breaks. Invested in remote learning, ideally a National solution (whole bunch of
with as little impact on teacher workload as possible and allow WFH where possible for students to reduce class sizes. Practical subjects in as BSB suggests with sensible precautions. Push exams back a couple of months and hope we can claw back F2F time in the summer.

Instead we’ve done... nothing.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,927
Ian1779 said:
You could have stuck an extra week on the half term to begin with, and just made sure those Tory c**** provide food for those that need it. No impact educationally whatsoever.
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Indeed....and if you scroll a few pages back....you'll see i suggested just that.

They've fucked it big time.....so now it's probably all about damage limitation until an extended xmas hols as we watch that bolted horse ride over the horizon
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,928
Kieranp96 said:
Lets be honest if you can't afford to feed your child you're doing something incredibly wrong.
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What if the only job you can get is a zero hours one and some weeks you don't get any work while others you get a pittance?
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,929
Kieranp96 said:
Lets be honest if you can't afford to feed your child you're doing something incredibly wrong.
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And the child should starve because it’ll teach the parent a lesson? Isn’t collective punishment a war crime?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2020
  • #34,930
Food bank stats from the Trussell Trust showed a significant rise up to March, you can guess it'll have gone through the roof by this time when the next stats come out. By all means lazily blame the individuals en masse but have a look here first

End of year food bank stats | Trussell

View the latest annual stats about the number of emergency food parcels distributed by our community of food banks in the past 12 months.
www.trusselltrust.org
 
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