shmmeee
Well-Known Member
The government themselves recommend school children get the flu vaccine because they’re spreaders due to bad hygiene and symptom management.
I think whoever said it wasn’t a big factor was talking out of their arse to be honest. It might be that the level of people get ill is low comparatively, but it’s basically a virus breeding ground.
The government themselves recommend school children get the flu vaccine because they’re spreaders due to bad hygiene and symptom management.
Don't help if one of the nurses turn out to be positive or subsequently need to isolate.The government themselves recommend school children get the flu vaccine because they’re spreaders due to bad hygiene and symptom management.
Whole of Notts going into tier 3. Also seeing reports that both France and Germany are expected to announce national lockdowns later today. Once again it appears our governments approach is the odd one out.
Coronavirus: Toughest Tier 3 lockdown yet will hit Nottinghamshire from Friday
Measures including a ban on selling alcohol in shops from 9pm are needed "to stop this virus in its tracks", Matt Hancock says.news.sky.com
This seems to be the new ideology, that it's imperative to keep schools open. OK, so there might not be any teachers left to teach...Both still keeping schools open for some reason
This seems to be the new ideology, that it's imperative to keep schools open. OK, so there might not be any teachers left to teach...
I thought at one stage we were quite far apart on opinion, but I now realise differentKeep the main source of transmission open and ruin everything else enjoyable, great way to keep compliance
I thought at one stage we were quite far apart on opinion, but I now realise different
I have to say, if the idea is act now to avoid worse consequence later (not an unreasonable strategy!) it seems bizarre to keep schools open in the 'normal' way, especially if people are being told not to work!
If you have to go into an empty office to work, or stay at home for your kids to come back at 3pm and run around you, what's more of a threat to you? It also seems to consider teachers as, well... expendable, which causes issues in the future for the profession, and quality of education.
ffs, in times like this, surely they just *have* to be flexible with timetables, holidays, and the like, and be prepared to move things around to compensate? And actually come up with a proper plan for either proper distanced, and/or remote learning.
Muddling around strikes me what we'll end up with is shutting everything down just as, well, exam build-up should be starting!
Well that's exactly it. There's also an argument that if you're sending parents back to work, then the schools have to be open but... as soon as you cut one, it's utterly bonkers not to cut the other.We had a term of trying to teach remotely, and students had a term of learning that way. We also should have ensured that all without a device or WiFi now have access. It would be shit for me but I could fully understand having to do it that way for whatever length of time was needed because the evidence supports it. I took the flu jab because I know I'm going to get at least that or COVID if not both and I don't want that comorbidity
Well that's exactly it. There's also an argument that if you're sending parents back to work, then the schools have to be open but... as soon as you cut one, it's utterly bonkers not to cut the other.
As you say, there was a term of teaching remotely and while not great, by definition such things get better, the more practice there is at such things and, for that matter, with more notice about the need to do it that way. Had the summer been on notice that teaching would be remote, teachers would have had time to plan.
It's not just national government that would have had to supply devices either. Many councils have schemes where their old laptops get supplied to charities - Coventry does! So tap into them, tap into companies such as IBM for their old stock (think of the great publicity they'd get etc.) and try and limit how much government has to spend, by actually planning to spread the load with some kind of plan, where what government ends up doing is underwriting any shortfall, rather than committing to it all from the off.
But of course we go it alone with grand plans, then row back when we realise the cost, and don't think about the damage of shuffling from one issue to another, without trying to look at the wider picture. This could actually have been an opportunity to level up society, offer opportunity to children who wouldn't have it in traditional ways of doing things.
And *if* rumours about a vaccine actually being on the horizon, then a temporary stay on children going in seems so much more sensible, if it's a relatively short spell of their lives, and not indeterminate.
Ah, flu... that's another thing where some joined up thinking would have been helpful. Obvious there'd be a run on the vaccine this year, so adjust opening times for school and business to give people a fighting chance of being vaccinated. I've been... 'lucky' that because Mrs Wisdom is asthmatic, and expected to go into a high risk area, Boots eventually honoured our bookings (at the third time of asking!) but that took a lot of persuasion! I accept supplies are short, but it was obvious supplies would be short!As I've also said before, I can't do practicals so the learning is crap either way. Either say schools don't contribute and let me teach normally, or admit they contribute more than most other places and close them for a while. Particularly as flu and cold are about to enter their high season
Ah, flu... that's another thing where some joined up thinking would have been helpful. Obvious there'd be a run on the vaccine this year, so adjust opening times for school and business to give people a fighting chance of being vaccinated. I've been... 'lucky' that because Mrs Wisdom is asthmatic, and expected to go into a high risk area, Boots eventually honoured our bookings (at the third time of asking!) but that took a lot of persuasion! I accept supplies are short, but it was obvious supplies would be short!
If they want to protect the NHS, sorting that out would have been particularly helpful!
They can... but that again makes issues with trying to keep things open as 'normal'. I genuinely wonder if we'll be able to stay open over the winter, because as soon as anybody shows *any* symptoms of anything remotely Covid / flu-like (let's not forget, the flu vaccine doesn't eliminate the possibility of getting flu in entirety) then they'll have to be off. Once you factor in children being off with similar / classes closed because of Covid cases, I genuinely woner if we'll have the staff numbers to keep the doors open.As said before, flu/COVID combination seems to be quite nasty. Though at least flu always causes symptoms so those with it can just stay home as soon as they realise
Eh?We're currently in tier 1+ which isn't confusing at all.
Bristol moved in to new coronavirus 'Tier 1+'
Bristol Mayor Marvin Rees has explained what Tier 1 plus will mean for Bristol, including new Covid marshalswww.bristolpost.co.uk
They can... but that again makes issues with trying to keep things open as 'normal'. I genuinely wonder if we'll be able to stay open over the winter, because as soon as anybody shows *any* symptoms of anything remotely Covid / flu-like (let's not forget, the flu vaccine doesn't eliminate the possibility of getting flu in entirety) then they'll have to be off. Once you factor in children being off with similar / classes closed because of Covid cases, I genuinely woner if we'll have the staff numbers to keep the doors open.
Assumes that the conditions in the economy are such that people have choiceHow well do people think China are doing? Their figures are too good to be true and we’d assume are significantly massaged. But the economic data all looks good so the economy seems to be doing fine. This leads me to think the reality there can’t be that bad as people just wouldn’t have the confidence to go about their business and buy goods etc if they believed the virus was still circulating and family members kept getting ill.
Sales of luxury goods seem to be doing well (assume you mean people are forced to work due to poverty but they have a growing middle class).Assumes that the conditions in the economy are such that people have choice
How well do people think China are doing? Their figures are too good to be true and we’d assume are significantly massaged. But the economic data all looks good so the economy seems to be doing fine. This leads me to think the reality there can’t be that bad as people just wouldn’t have the confidence to go about their business and buy goods etc if they believed the virus was still circulating and family members kept getting ill.
Personally, and im not usually a big fan of conspiracies, i feel that if there is a silver bullet vaccine, them fuckers have got it and used it.
Absolutely unbelievable how life there is as if nothing ever happened
Personally, and im not usually a big fan of conspiracies, i feel that if there is a silver bullet vaccine, them fuckers have got it and used it.
Absolutely unbelievable how life there is as if nothing ever happened
Yeah my suspicion is they do have it under control, or at least relatively so. The options they have and lengths they are willing to are way beyond anywhere else.No conspiracy, China are a dictatorship who can exert influence like few other countries, to contain their people and push them in whatever direction the state wants.
Not saying they won't manipulate the statistics either, but their control would be far more draconian and squash it far sooner than even the harshest of Boris Johnson critics would be happy with us doing.Yeah my suspicion is they do have it under control, or at least relatively so. The options they have and lengths they are willing to are way beyond anywhere else.
Lancaster Leipzig University have just moved all of their teaching online as the number of Covid cases has moved above 35 per 100,000 in the last 7 days and they won't return to hybrid teaching until the city of Leipzig has stayed below the figure of 35 new cases per day for 3 consecutive days:Both still keeping schools open for some reason
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