Any thinking on when they might get everyone back in on a compulsory basis?
It’s already happening with the NHS see PPE and TnT. Just funnelling cash to their mates like some African warlord and no one gives a shot cos they’re on the right side of Brexitor whatever.
yeah, it definitely has, but I'm think of Ukraine levels of thievery and resulting deaths as a result. We're a long way from that but we've started the journey.
Personally, I think there will be another lockodwn put in place. The worry is that a lot of the southern economy is based on the restaurants/bars/hospitality sector, if there is not significant finanical support for business owners and workers things will get uglier in terms of the rioting. It seems that so far that the mafia and extremists incited isses.What’s it like living in a sensible country?
The hope is that if others do it, we at least follow.What’s it like living in a sensible country?
| Area | Deaths | Rate per 100,000 population |
|---|---|---|
| England | 40,178 | 71.4 |
| Northern Ireland | 671 | 35.4 |
| Scotland | 2,726 | 49.9 |
| Wales | 1,790 | 56.8 |
Just feel like our government hasn't shown the caution of the other nations and that has rubbed off on the peopleWhy is the death rate in England so much higher than the other home nations:
Area Deaths Rate per 100,000 population England 40,178 71.4 Northern Ireland 671 35.4 Scotland 2,726 49.9 Wales 1,790 56.8
I would guess that always acting days or weeks after the other home nations has an impact. The SAGE experts said weeks ago we needed a two week 'circuit breaker' and were ignored. They warned that if it was left to tie in with half term as some suggested it would be too late. Once again we haven't followed the science and this is the result.Why is the death rate in England so much higher than the other home nations
One of the concerns which I have at the moment is the amount of lives lost.
The labour mayor for Liverpool absolutely knocked it on the head for me when after the Government said it is considering a Tier 4 style extra level then he would welcome it for the local area as long as it would save lives.
The issue as I see it now is what is the percentage of cases of Covid from each individual local authority per 100k population does it take to put the population in that local authority into lockdown.
The Scottish Government are debating this idea at the moment.
North and South Lanarkshire are the main areas of concern for the Scottish Government currently with infection rates of around 350 for 100K of the local population with talks that they will go into immediate lockdown when the new Tier framework is decided.
There are part of England at the moment with infection rates a lot higher then this.
I'm expecting more changes from the UK government over the next few weeks.
Because the English are arrogant, had enough of experts and basically dumb. The difference in attitude between the people I know, work with and meet through work in England compared to what I hear when talking to family in Northern Ireland about their experience is vast. Couple that with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have devolved governments who have a clear and concise message while we have Boris and his chancers who delay decisions in the hope that an answer falls in their lap, can’t admit when they get it wrong so don’t remedy mistakes until forced into a U turn.Why is the death rate in England so much higher than the other home nations:
Area Deaths Rate per 100,000 population England 40,178 71.4 Northern Ireland 671 35.4 Scotland 2,726 49.9 Wales 1,790 56.8
Why is the death rate in England so much higher than the other home nations:
Area Deaths Rate per 100,000 population England 40,178 71.4 Northern Ireland 671 35.4 Scotland 2,726 49.9 Wales 1,790 56.8
Its not been confirmed, and I'm sure it won't be until its passed every stage and been approved, but it has been noticeable how over the last couple of weeks multiple experts have changed from expressing caution and saying it could be months before we get a vaccine to talking about starting a roll out in December or January. For them all to have changed at the same time makes me think they know something.
Then a few days later you had this from Fauci:
And a leaked memo from the Eliot telling staff to be prepared for immunisation in December:Hopes rise for approval of coronavirus vaccine by end of year
US expert Dr Anthony Fauci says it should be known by early December if vaccine is safe to roll outwww.theguardian.com
Hospital at centre of revelation about coronavirus vaccine for all NHS staff
Hospital's managing director confirmed staff we on standby for a vaccinewww.coventrytelegraph.net
Because the English are arrogant, had enough of experts and basically dumb.
And Poland chechia and Romania tooFrance
Spain
Italy
All massive numbers of deaths but it’s ok it’s not as deadly only kills those over 80 and the great barrington commitment hasn’t been tried yet
Gut says population density mostly.
It could be lower at this point if people were more compliant and less hung up on their ‘human rights being violated’ by wearing a small piece of cloth on their face.Nothing like a sweeping generalisation. As Shmmeee says, more likely population density.
The more rural parts of England are faring better in infection rates than hugely dense cities for example.
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And let’s not ignore the fact that we are still allowing the greatest area for infection to go unchecked, whilst pretending that closing pubs and restaurants at 10pm is a game changer
It could be lower at this point if people were more compliant and less hung up on their ‘human rights being violated’ by wearing a small piece of cloth on their face.
And let’s not ignore the fact that we are still allowing the greatest area for infection to go unchecked, whilst pretending that closing pubs and restaurants at 10pm is a game changer
I think whoever said it wasn’t a big factor was talking out of their arse to be honest. It might be that the level of people get ill is low comparatively, but it’s basically a virus breeding ground.Yeah my point was referring to Tony's post. I have no doubt there are some that aren't being compliant, but it ain't just an English issue.
Its been law in parts of Spain to wear face coverings everywhere for weeks, has it slowed infection there?
A scientist on the news, a week or so back said schools were not a big factor in infection transmissions. Has that changed? Genuine question as I'm trying to avoid watching constant depression on TV. Much prefer binge watching Netflix shite.
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Just been told by my cardiology pal that UHCW has 26 Covid with 8 in critical care.
They strangely arent anywhere near the numbers in there of the first wave
Coventry has avoided lots of bad stuff. Maybe we will start to experience it maybe we won’tSimilar to my friend who nurses in the tropical and infectious ward says
Lots of normal and surge capacity left
At the moment but George elliot is filling up very fast it won't be long before they start sending Warwickshire patients here, but considering where the admissions were 3 weeks ago we are in the shit if nothing changes soon.Coventry has avoided lots of bad stuff. Maybe we will start to experience it maybe we won’t
National secondary attendance is down to 80%Journalist was at Sidney Stringer yesterday on Newsnight,reckons it runs at about 15% of kid's are off (Isolating ) per week .
Problem is even if we change it now it takes at least 2 weeks for any impact to be seen and probably longer for hospital admissions and deaths to show the impact. Been left way too late again and even now we're trying tactics the governments own experts are openly saying won't work.At the moment but George elliot is filling up very fast it won't be long before they start sending Warwickshire patients here, but considering where the admissions were 3 weeks ago we are in the shit if nothing changes soon.
That’s exactly what I mean. I haven’t heard anyone not English come out with nonsense like that.All massive numbers of deaths but it’s ok it’s not as deadly only kills those over 80 and the great barrington commitment hasn’t been tried yet
Also featured how the dept of education had pulled the vast majority of tech kit meant to go to hard up kids , seemed a rediculously low% of what was projected.National secondary attendance is down to 80%
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