Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (45 Viewers)
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You get the sense either he goes or Johnson looks worse and worse and gets replaced.
NorthernWisdom
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It's down to leadership to lead. I'll say this for Thatcher, chances are I'd have ended up disgreeing with whatever she decided, but she'd have stayed in, studied all the evidence, heard from the experts, asked pertinent questions, and been involved. Furthermore she'd have done what she thought was right, not what was popular.
And then, even if people disagreed, you're more likely to get some grudging buy-in if your leaders appear sincere.
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jimmyhillsfanclub
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Is that supposed to be funny? Dear oh dear. Classic example of twitter litter......about as funny as Covid-19.
shmmeee
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Fucking everyone’s a Twitter comic these days. There’s been a couple of decent ones but on the whole this entire character comedy shtick on Twitter is terrible.
David O'Day
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still funnier than Mrs Browns Boys
skybluetony176
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I don’t think it’s supposed to be funny. It’s actual footage of an adviser from Boris’ inner circle
Yeah, I think I mentioned yesterday that I’d seen a 2/3 to 1/3 polling split on wanting stricter measures.
I’d imagine some of this relates to personal (and family) risk, age and potentially even to job security though. For example I wonder if the pollsters asked those wanting a stricter National lockdown if they’d still want this if they would likely lose their job because of it, what the answer would be.
I know a lot of people involved in the hospitality/nightlife sector and especially for younger people that’s the reality of the situation for many. In addition they can see a larger proportion of the enjoyment of their lives removed (even though they appear to be at a relatively tiny risk). I’m now aware of three younger adults that have taken their lives during this mess (friends of friends), the most recent being Sunday. I’m also aware of many (what Id class as intelligent) people, mainly those who aren’t in relationships and/or don’t have kids etc that will not follow the new stricter measures.
That’s all part of the governments balancing act, a fair bit of which I admit I don’t agree with, thats being attempted. I don’t think it’s a rich (well funded) and poorer division between those that want/don’t want stricter measures, there are various dividing lines as mentioned above, probably more age related, and I can see both sides depending on what people’s circumstances are.
Ps I agree 100% though that a clearer more coherent message/strategy needs to be delivered and has been one of the major failings during this nightmare.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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No they didn't. Johnson specifically stated that we'd "stay open" and be the economic powerhouse while others locked themselves away despite scientists saying this was a terrible idea. By the time they actually listened to a bit of the science is was already to late to stop the rise and we had to lockdown for much longer than we would've done otherwise. Same thing happening now.
If a full lockdown for two/three weeks reduces the infection rate considerably to level it out then so be it, because if not we're heading down a path that should see us locked down in a month or so anyway until beyond Xmas. Either than or many, many more deaths and serious infections and how much do you think that's going to cost the economy?
Besides, as I've mentioned before, if the country 'collapsed' then it just goes to show the way we do things is not at all robust and is therefore something we should be looking to change, not return to. it's being offered tuppence now in exchange for giving up a quid later.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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As long as it's six a side or less and neither team enters the others half. The beers are fine, as long as you drink them alone and don't touch the glass with your hands. Unless you live in a post code with an odd number but in an even numbered house in which case you can only have one beer, to be consumed via a colonic.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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If that happens this season now I'd be amazed. There will be no sense of normality until into next year and probably when the days are getting longer and it's getting warmer. Even then I wouldn't guarantee it.
Unless of course the govt just says fuck it and sends everything back to normal regardless of the information in front of their face.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Doesn’t he need to take a shotgun and have a couple of dead grouse thrown over ones shoulder also?
Close - it's scouse not grouse.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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It's amazing these loud, well funded minorities always call themselves the 'silent majority' isn't it?
David O'Day
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Jenrick still claiming they are always led by the science, the balls on him though are kind of impressive
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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You can lead a horse to water but that doesn't mean it'll take a drink.
robbiekeane
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Not sure if been shared yet lol
NorthernWisdom
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Matt Hancock said:
How long for them to hold to that? Until early November, 10th at latest, I reckon.
Fuck me, even Jeremy Hunt's looking a wise old sage nowadays in comparison.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Because it’s where they’ve got a photo
A fair point when talking about the general public. I was thinking more about the commentators pushing the idea of lockdown being economically damaging and the herd immunity strategy who tend to be shills for libertarian think tanks. More of an issue in America though, in fairness.
Yeah, renowned “nonce” territory chain restaurant Wagamama’s...
Real men go to ‘spoons I guess.
David O'Day
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Imagine using "pret" for a picture of Gove at a pret? Fucking noncey as fuck that
I just can’t believe being willing to pay high street prices for a reasonable facsimile of Asian food makes me a nonce. Need to rethink my life choices.
NorthernWisdom
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Can I just ask how it affects my lefty credentials that I think Wagamama and Pret are both utter shite, and I've never heard of a Guac Factory? I'm assuming this helps me keep a social distance from Gove and others like him? If so, I'd like to keep it that way thanks
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Brighton Sky Blue
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DOD 1-0 Nick (Nick 89’ OG)
David O'Day
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I've scored far more than that
shmmeee
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Pret because that’s where Gove was caught without a mask and Wagamama because that’s where Sunak is for the photo op.
The meme is funny but does annoy me that it’s basically fake news that people against the government are going “yeah we know but it’s funny”. You can’t be against it against you for for it when it helps you.
If I see another Labour MP tweeting about how that Fatima ad proves the government hate the arts when it was from 2019 I’ll lose my shit.
Ian1779
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Need to be seen doing something as their default position is just to abstain rather than oppose these days.
shmmeee
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Trying very hard not to point out that if *someone* hadn’t decimated the PLP there might be a point to voting against the government other than handing them free PR about “Labour voting for immigrants” or “Labour voting with the EU” or “Labour voting against the armed forces”
clint van damme
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Starmer calls for circuit breaker national lock down.
That's the last we'll hear of that like everything else he occasionally pipes up about.
That's the last we'll hear of that like everything else he occasionally pipes up about.
NorthernWisdom
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143 deaths today. Not exactly weakening...
