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Ring Of Steel

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,481
skybluetony176 said:
Green Party?
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I’d be green
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,482
Grendel said:
Macron is the ultimate populist surely?
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He doesn't mean populist, he means right wing
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,483
Ian1779 said:
I fundamentally disagree on this point. Only Trump could do worse than Johnson.
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What about the Brazilian guy, he must be jostling for a European place at least in the premier league of shite leaders through COVID
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,484
Ian1779 said:
I think it’s an entitlement embedded into the psyche of some people. They see masks as a restriction of their human rights, rather than it being their civic responsibility to look after your fellow countryman.
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I can't breathe properly with it on.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,485
Masks are mind control 5g muzzles, wake up sheeple. Also, sneeze guards at the salad bar are making kids worship Satan
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,486
Evo1883 said:
He doesn't mean populist, he means right wing
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Guiseppi Conte is a far better example than Johnson then
 

Malaka

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,487
Kieranp96 said:
I seen someone today in asda Walsgrave without a mask and the guy was probaly atleast 35 stone the health issues he probaly has would probaly kill him if he contracted it, yet my 78 year old granny who has lung cancer and asthma wears one .
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I was at the gym the other day, just got out of the shower and went to my locker. I was getting my clothes out and a bloke just stood next to me and emptied his locker , moved my stuff and couldn't have been more than two feet away from me while he was getting undressed. I said so much for social distancing, if you get any closer, I insist you wear a condom. He just gave me a filthy look, put on his swim shorts and went for a swim. Disrespectful fucking moron. I wouldn't have minded if he was good looking.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,488
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I can't breathe properly with it on.
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I have asthma, and me and the missus tried some weird corona BDSM and I can confirm... When she strangled me with my mask on I struggled too..
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,489
Anyway do you all belive China and Russia lied about their numbers ? Just our of curiosity
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,490
Grendel said:
Guiseppi Conte is a far better example than Johnson then
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Tony Blair is a good example of a populist leader...
 

Ian1779

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,491
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I can't breathe properly with it on.
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And there will be people that have similar difficulties across society, but if those that can do wear them - it will then protect you too.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,492
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I can't breathe properly with it on.
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It’s been shown they don’t restrict breathing, it’s in your head. I’ve worn the hospital ones as well as thicker material in 40c weather and been fine.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,493
Malaka said:
I was at the gym t
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Lost me bud.
 

Ian1779

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,494
Evo1883 said:
He doesn't mean populist, he means right wing
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The Venn Diagram of that relationship is quite the sight.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,495
Grendel said:
Guiseppi Conte is a far better example than Johnson then
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Conte is not right-wing - he voted for the Democratic Party before 5star.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,496
Sick Boy said:
Conte is not right-wing.
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He’s a classic populist and Johnson is far from right wing as we are finding
 

Sick Boy

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,497
Grendel said:
He’s a classic populist and Johnson is far from right wing as we are finding
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LOL if you say so hahaha
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,498
Sick Boy said:
It’s been shown they don’t restrict breathing, it’s in your head. I’ve worn the hospital ones as well as thicker material in 40c weather and been fine.
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I'm struggling after about 5-10 minutes most times.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,499
Ian1779 said:
And there will be people that have similar difficulties across society, but if those that can do wear them - it will then protect you too.
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I'm already unprotected because of being on a school site with thousands of others.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,500
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm struggling after about 5-10 minutes most times.
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To be fair, talking for long periods with them on if you’re teaching isn’t going to be great
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,501
Sick Boy said:
LOL if you say so hahaha
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The scotsman wrote an article describing how alot of Johnsons policies are from the moderate labour handbook... It's quite interesting il try find it.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,502
Sick Boy said:
LOL if you say so hahaha
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Johnson is spending more money on the welfare state and borrowing than anyone in living memory

Populist is a dumb term and Macron is the ultimate populist leader in Europe
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,503
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'm already unprotected because of being on a school site with thousands of others.
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Are you using the cloth ones because they are horrible, the NHS type ones are so much better...
The one I got with the city badge on is really shite for comfort
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,504
Sick Boy said:
To be fair, talking for long periods with them on if you’re teaching isn’t going to be great
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If they just let me do my job properly I'd be a lot less complanative.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,505
Evo1883 said:
Are you using the cloth ones because they are horrible, the NHS type ones are so much better...
The one I got with the city badge on is really shite for comfort
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I have a reusable one because the generic surgical ones most people have break too easily.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,506
Grendel said:
Johnson is spending more money on the welfare state and borrowing than anyone in living memory

Populist is a dumb term and Macron is the ultimate populist leader in Europe
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I don’t actually think there are any true populist leaders in Europe. In reality, Conte isn’t either really, he wouldn’t have even been PM if the 5 Star got in outright.
 

SBAndy

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,507
Grendel said:
Johnson is spending more money on the welfare state and borrowing than anyone in living memory
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And is quite literally spaffing it away into private contracts for his friends.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,508
Kieranp96 said:
Was more like 3 months ago when the virus was subsiding a little, but it was always garenteed to return it follows the same pattern as the flu it wouldn't surprise me at all if we do see 20k cases daily in the coming months unless people get a grip and follow guidelines.
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It was the 9th of this month.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,509
Grendel said:
Johnson is spending more money on the welfare state and borrowing than anyone in living memory

Populist is a dumb term and Macron is the ultimate populist leader in Europe
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Guess flipping off Europe isn't right wing enough
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,510
This thread took a turn
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,511
Grendel said:
Johnson is spending more money on the welfare state and borrowing than anyone in living memory

Populist is a dumb term and Macron is the ultimate populist leader in Europe
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It’s not that dumb. He has no discernible strategy to deal with this crisis, his chief adviser leaks everything in the press to gauge public reaction before implementation any proposals or actions, making out that he’s empowering the common man in involving them in decision making.
Can you see any other reason why a proportion of people think he’s doing a good job?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,512
Ian1779 said:
It’s not that dumb. He has no discernible strategy to deal with this crisis, his chief adviser leaks everything in the press to gauge public reaction before implementation any proposals or actions, making out that he’s empowering the common man in involving them in decision making.
Can you see any other reason why a proportion of people think he’s doing a good job?
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Nationalism, which prevents people from acknowledging hard facts and instead makes them constantly divert anywhere & everywhere instead of focusing on the problems in their own country. You can be patriotic and see the mistakes we’ve made, but your average nationalist refuses to accept anything other than we’re great and everyone else is worse than us or lying.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,513
Kieranp96 said:
Which is true, had they contained it at its source back in October November 2019 we wouldn't be having these issues around the world.
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Likewise once our first case was recorded in late Jan early Feb we should have done the same. Yet Boris fucked about with his herd immunity rubbish, waited weeks and killed thousands.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 24, 2020
  • #32,514
ajsccfc said:
Masks are mind control 5g muzzles, wake up sheeple. Also, sneeze guards at the salad bar are making kids worship Satan
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I mean when I say somebody write 'sheeple' I think "oh god, what an original thinker this person is"
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 25, 2020
  • #32,515
Has mendacious Matt been at it again ?

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Oakman Inns CEO Peter Borg-Neal said his industry "sweated blood to get ready to re-open our businesses" in July, with the Health Secretary's comments "totally untrue".

Speaking on Thursday's Question Time, the businessman, who has worked in the pub trade since he was 16, said after pub's re-opened on July 4, there was "no significant change in the number of transmissions" for over two months.

People finish their drinks in the street while the bars are being emptied in Soho, London
"Then, at the beginning of September there's a big change.

"How on earth can that be blamed on the hospitality industry? We're very angry," he continued.

Mr Borg-Neal was referring to an interview Mr Hancock gave last Friday on BBC Radio Four's Today programme.

He claimed the "vast majority of transmissions happen in social settings, whether that's in hospitality or people's own homes".

However, Public Health England figures from that same week show of the 729 new confirmed cases just 34 were officially linked to the industry.

Mr Borg-Neal added the industry would "never put profits before public safety".

He said: "We want a retraction and an apology and if we don't get one this issue will not go away. People are really hurt and upset."

Secretary of State for Health and Social Care Matt Hancock
Viewers' responses to the entrepreneur's comments were mixed.

Twitter user Reay Honour said he is "another businessman denying it's his businesses' fault. It's the schools, it's offices, it's the old folks' home.

"Ridiculous argument made purely out of greed and not need."

While Labour's David Whitaker tweeted: "I have to say Peter is talking a lot of common sense.

Employment Minister Alok Sharma was also a guest on the show
"Proves the Government and their scientists have not a clue about the economy and the impact of their measures."

Also on the programme, professor and chair of Global Public Health at the University of Edinburgh, Devi Sridhar warned: "Unless you solve your public health problem you’re not going to solve your economic problems."

She said the UK should look at countries like Taiwan and South Korea, that controlled the virus and had "minimal" economic impact.

Yesterday, would-be late-night drinkers in England faced the first evening of new measures aimed at preventing the spread of coronavirus.

From Thursday, all pubs, bars and restaurants had to shut by 10pm - meaning time at the bar will be somewhere around 9pm.

Many people were not put off a midweek tipple or two by the new restrictions on Thursday.

Along with the 10pm closing times, all hospitality venues must now be table service only to try to help contain the spread of Covid-19.

The rules for England contrast with those in Wales, where pub-goers will be given an extra 20 minutes to finish their drinks after last orders.

From 6pm on Thursday, changes to coronavirus regulations mean Welsh hospitality businesses including pubs, cafes, restaurants, sports clubs and casinos must not supply alcohol between 10pm and 6am the following day.

Licensed premises will only be able to provide table service for customers when consuming food or drink - and following a 20-minute period to allow customers to finish their drinks at 10pm - must close by 10.20pm
 
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