Well the EU have been working together, sharing ventilators and resources.
There's a daily conference call between medical advisors of EU countries.
Our petty government decided they don't want to take part in this.
You’re confused. 80% is 80%. When (if) herd immunity is reached the virus doesn’t have the hosts to reach the final 20%, it’s nothing to do with symptom reporting.
You’re also confused about what’s being proposed and why. Leaving aside the fact that we literally don’t know what’ll happen when restrictions lift as it hasn’t happened yet, even if you want the herd immunity approach you still have to flatten the curve to avoid millions of hospitalisations that spikes the mortality rate. That’s where social distancing measures come in. Read the WaPo article I posted earlier in the thread with the model of different scenarios and read up on what different countries approaches have been, you seem spectacularly ill informed on what the various options are. SK for example seems to have contained with minimal lockdown because of early and wide scale testing, tracing and quarantine, though it’s a bit late for us to go for that option now.
They are not working together. There are bunch of reactionary idiots in one corner and Germany in the other
You’re confused. 80% is 80%. When (if) herd immunity is reached the virus doesn’t have the hosts to reach the final 20%, it’s nothing to do with symptom reporting.
You’re also confused about what’s being proposed and why. Leaving aside the fact that we literally don’t know what’ll happen when restrictions lift as it hasn’t happened yet, even if you want the herd immunity approach you still have to flatten the curve to avoid millions of hospitalisations that spikes the mortality rate. That’s where social distancing measures come in. Read the WaPo article I posted earlier in the thread with the model of different scenarios and read up on what different countries approaches have been, you seem spectacularly ill informed on what the various options are. SK for example seems to have contained with minimal lockdown because of early and wide scale testing, tracing and quarantine, though it’s a bit late for us to go for that option now.
They are not working together. There are bunch of reactionary idiots in one corner and Germany in the other
Your anti-EU agenda is clouding your judgement.
As above, are you on this call?
Your anti-EU agenda is clouding your judgement.
As above, are you on the call?
No I’m just seeing one economy operating to preserve itself - the fact is every EU country has a different approach if you like it or not.
I can assure you Germany will not be helping basket case countries like Italy and Spain to recover afterwards. it will profit from their misery but it will not help them. Good luck
From what I can work out the Chinese are dirty, the EU are all overreacting & are idiots, France are arrogant oafs, Germany are deliberately working against everyone else, and Trump and Johnson are all good.
Guys, not following this too carefully but isn't the big hope is that the change in seasons in a few weeks and the warmer weather will slow the spread down.
Or are we at the stage now that we are going to take a hit no matter what?
Your anti-EU agenda is clouding your judgement.
As above, are you on this call?
Think it's pretty warm in parts of Italy and Spain!Guys, not following this too carefully but isn't the big hope is that the change in seasons in a few weeks and the warmer weather will slow the spread down.
Or are we at the stage now that we are going to take a hit no matter what?
Not had a problem with them myself. One bad apple doesn't mean they are all bad. Both the wife and I have been pulled for a driving offence. Both let go with just a quick warning.Any excuse to get the Gendarmes out to beat people
Think it's pretty warm in parts of Italy and Spain!
There is my wife, 3 younger kids and myself that live in France.Well because that’s the view of most virologists and the 80% is in their eyes everyone as some will have no symptoms and just carry. The point is it’s impossible to restrict to a few people in the country isn’t it and lockdowns will only mean outbreaks occur again and again and again - I haven’t read any report that believes it’s possible to contain to small numbers of the population
The EU has not worked together.Well the EU have been working together, sharing ventilators and resources.
There's a daily conference call between medical advisors of EU countries.
Our petty government decided they don't want to take part in this.
To venture outside or another cup of tea... decisions.
The EU has not worked together.
They were told not to shut borders. But they did.
From what I can work out the Chinese are dirty, the EU are all overreacting & are idiots, France are arrogant oafs, Germany are deliberately working against everyone else, and Trump and Johnson are all good.
You really do have issues
Unfortunately we probably have the most morally bankrupt and repugnant pressSoon will see see elderly people being abused for going out and shopping. This is rapidly descended into the War of the Worlds radio broadcast scenario and media needs align and cut out sensational nonsense
The stark reality is people will die but it’s a small number and economic existence for the many is essential
No. The countries decided to do it themselves.....The day after the EU had a go at the USA for banning flights from Europe.Who told them that, the WHO or something?
Not sure why links not working. It’s an article by Guy Chazan from yesterday m. Should be able to google and read it without subscription. A couple of extracts
‘She had previously argued in favour of close co-ordination between member states and against unilateral actions to slow the spread. As recently as Wednesday, Ms Merkel had said EU countries “should not be isolating ourselves from one another” and that they needed to adopt a “unified approach that is, as far as possible, co-ordinated [between us]”.
‘Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, warned on Friday that the World Health Organisation did not consider travel bans to be effective. She said sealing off frontiers had a “strong social and economic impact” and would “disrupt people’s lives and business across the borders”.
The article is following Germany and certain other member states closing borders. As you can see nobody’s dealing with this particularly well ! (not just us)....i it’s a global pandemic that nobody has ever faced before !
lol, I didn't say any of that.
Who would have thought that after all those years of arguments over the pros and consWoohoo Brexit.
Fucking hell.
I’m a bit gutted I’ll never be proved correct over Brexit :emoji_thinking: and a little relieved I’ll never
Be proved wrong.
Might have known it'd be too complex for you.How can you make those statements when we've just left
Might have known it'd be too complex for you.
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