Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (18 Viewers)

hill83 · Jun 22, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
95 fatalities, 958 infections.

Granted its the weekend lag, but Broadgate celebrations were 2 weeks ago. The BLM protests 3 weeks ago at least. Other things reported, the beach gatherings etc.

And no second wave.

I’m pretty sure outside gatherings are ok. I was dead against them initially when I was in the grip of fear about all this. But as things appear to be improving, numbers dropping and lockdown easing, I’m more at ease. Plus the science backs up outside being a lot less of a risk than inside. I’m in no position to say if there will or won’t be a second wave, so I’m not going to speculate but I’m still going to be careful.

Not to forget that people were still pretty socially distanced and at the protests at least most people have been wearing masks.

Not sure why people feel the need to stick their necks out about things they don’t fully understand.

David O'Day · Jun 22, 2020

Aren't those figures not great when you take into account the weekend lag and compare them to the last few Mondays? didn't we report 30 something last monday?

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 22, 2020

clint van damme said:
They are. Pubs, restaurants, hotels, hairdressers etc and a reduction in the safe distance from 2 to 1 metre I reckon.
I think it's too soon personally for the pubs but people are just going to have to try and look after themselves if they're concerned.

I think hotels could do it quite safely if they were at half capacity, B+Bs less certain.

Saddlebrains · Jun 22, 2020

hill83 said:
I’m pretty sure outside gatherings are ok. I was dead against them initially when I was in the grip of fear about all this. But as things appear to be improving, numbers dropping and lockdown easing, I’m more at ease. Plus the science backs up outside being a lot less of a risk than inside. I’m in no position to say if there will or won’t be a second wave, so I’m not going to speculate but I’m still going to be careful.

Not to forget that people were still pretty socially distanced and at the protests at least most people have been wearing masks.

Not sure why people feel the need to stick their necks out about things they don’t fully understand.

Tbf mate im only saying it because around a month ago i had enough of the doom media.

Started researching other countries methods, investigations, scientific findings etc. And as said before the biggest thing for me is it's trend following SARS, the fact people presenting to hospital now arent in a state like in March, and the findings of it being spread around France and Germany from mid December.

Just feel that stuff isnt reported as much as it should be. I know on here i come across as aggressively pushing a viewpoint against the second wave, and i suppose i do come down on that side of things.

But this forum was wall to wall doom, political bitching and death numbers.

Just want to get the other side across. And i hope to god its right

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 22, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
Tbf mate im only saying it because around a month ago i had enough of the doom media.

Started researching other countries methods, investigations, scientific findings etc. And as said before the biggest thing for me is it's trend following SARS, the fact people presenting to hospital now arent in a state like in March, and the findings of it being spread around France and Germany from mid December.

Just feel that stuff isnt reported as much as it should be. I know on here i come across as aggressively pushing a viewpoint against the second wave, and i suppose i do come down on that side of things.

But this forum was wall to wall doom, political bitching and death numbers.

Just want to get the other side across. And i hope to god its right

Quarantining now does lend new meaning to ‘after the horse has bolted’

Saddlebrains · Jun 22, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Quarantining now does lend new meaning to ‘after the horse has bolted’

Oh definitely, fucking stupid decision without a doubt

hill83 · Jun 22, 2020

Why am I seeing 15 deaths today on the news sites?
I don’t normally follow it so where are you getting the numbers from?

Saddlebrains · Jun 22, 2020

hill83 said:
Why am I seeing 15 deaths today on the news sites?
I don’t normally follow it so where are you getting the numbers from?

Typo, should say 15 not 95! Apologies

SkyBlueDom26 · Jun 22, 2020

only 15 deaths and under 1000 cases! We’re beating this (yes I know there is a lag in the deaths but look at the weekly Monday trend)

David O'Day · Jun 22, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
only 15 deaths and under 1000 cases! We’re beating this (yes I know there is a lag in the deaths but look at the weekly Monday trend)

Every fucking week

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 22, 2020

David O'Day said:
Every fucking week

Sauceless geeza.

David O'Day · Jun 22, 2020

Deleted member 5849 said:
Sauceless geeza.

Just Bants mate

Nick · Jun 22, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
only 15 deaths and under 1000 cases! We’re beating this (yes I know there is a lag in the deaths but look at the weekly Monday trend)

I can imagine that you look forward to the results like watching the football scores come in.

shmmeee · Jun 22, 2020

15 deaths is a great result for a Sunday and under 1k cases at last. Still far too many, but looking lots better.

Will be interesting to see where we are in two weeks now we really really out of lockdown. Localised protests and parties won’t have had much impact.

David O'Day · Jun 22, 2020

I didn't watch todays episode of Hancocks half hour but Jenny Harries is getting it tight on twitter.

Usually only happens when she is saying something completely different to what she said last time.

chiefdave · Jun 22, 2020

David O'Day said:
I didn't watch todays episode of Hancocks half hour but Jenny Harries is getting it tight on twitter.

Usually only happens when she is saying something completely different to what she said last time.

Jenny "face masks are a waste of time and mass gatherings are fine" Harries, what could go wrong!

Today she has claimed that as 1 in 1,700 people has covid you'd have to meet 1,700 before you are at risk of catching it. She also said we need to practice good respiratory hygiene whatever that means.

Brylowes · Jun 23, 2020

clint van damme said:
surprised at that to be honest. I know a couple by me who have put protocols in place.
The hairdressers where my wife works was given their opening date and a list of guidelines and protocols they have to implement weeks ago.

We have been told absolutely nothing at all since Closing on the 20th March, in fact you’d
Never believe we run a pub forcibly shut down by Government,
I have grave concerns, we are opening to a very different landscape and the restrictions
We will have to comply with are likely to be on a different level to any other business ‘we
also face the very real prospect of further lockdowns with minimal notice.
15 years in the same pub with 14 years still on my lease, on the day of lockdown we had
no debt at all with the owner ‘but the only concession they’ve offered is to allow us to defer
Rent payments to debt and not charge interest on the debt for one year.
On top of this I’ve had to shield due to medicinal injections I take every 3 months, the worry
and uncertainty is intolerable and is starting to take affect on my marriage and health, can’t
Remember the last time I was in bed before 4am and up after 7am.
Seriously had enough now.

David O'Day · Jun 23, 2020

chiefdave said:
Jenny "face masks are a waste of time and mass gatherings are fine" Harries, what could go wrong!

Today she has claimed that as 1 in 1,700 people has covid you'd have to meet 1,700 before you are at risk of catching it. She also said we need to practice good respiratory hygiene whatever that means.

But that's not how contagious pathogens work? You could meet 1 person and they have it or you could meet 20000 and not catch it/

DCMO my arse

David O'Day · Jun 23, 2020

Global report: South Korea has Covid-19 second wave as Israel ponders new lockdown

Korea say they now have a second wave.

Thought second waves were impossible as the great epidemiologists of SBT say?

clint van damme · Jun 23, 2020

Brylowes said:
We have been told absolutely nothing at all since Closing on the 20th March, in fact you’d
Never believe we run a pub forcibly shut down by Government,
I have grave concerns, we are opening to a very different landscape and the restrictions
We will have to comply with are likely to be on a different level to any other business ‘we
also face the very real prospect of further lockdowns with minimal notice.
15 years in the same pub with 14 years still on my lease, on the day of lockdown we had
no debt at all with the owner ‘but the only concession they’ve offered is to allow us to defer
Rent payments to debt and not charge interest on the debt for one year.
On top of this I’ve had to shield due to medicinal injections I take every 3 months, the worry
and uncertainty is intolerable and is starting to take affect on my marriage and health, can’t
Remember the last time I was in bed before 4am and up after 7am.
Seriously had enough now.

that's shit mate. Hopefully you'll start to get a clearer picture of whats going on over the next few days.

Saddlebrains · Jun 23, 2020

David O'Day said:
Global report: South Korea has Covid-19 second wave as Israel ponders new lockdown

Korea say they now have a second wave

Thought second waves were impossible as the great epidemiologists of SBT say?

They've had 17 new cases on Sunday. Hardly cause for a lockdown is it? Do you get erect when you see bad news? Genuine question

clint van damme · Jun 23, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
They've had 17 new cases on Sunday. Hardly cause for a lockdown is it? Do you get erect when you see bad news? Genuine question

it's all relative though, considering they've only had around 300 deaths 17 is an outbreak.
Sporadic outbreaks are happening in several countries. There has been talk before of localised lock downs and i can see that happening.

David O'Day · Jun 23, 2020

clint van damme said:
it's all relative though, considering they've only had around 300 deaths 17 is an outbreak.
Sporadic outbreaks are happening in several countries. There has been talk before of localised lock downs and i can see that happening.

Ah Saddlebrains must have posted

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 23, 2020

David O'Day said:
But that's not how contagious pathogens work? You could meet 1 person and they have it or you could meet 20000 and not catch it/

DCMO my arse

It would also mean if you were asymptomatic you’d infect 1800 people. She is probably the worst out of all the ones they have on-I miss the one who told the truth which is probably why she never came back.

David O'Day · Jun 23, 2020

David O'Day · Jun 23, 2020

David O'Day said:

But joking aside how the fuck have they spent 11 million quid in 3 months?

There are many software developers pointing out you can run whole companies for years on a couple of million.

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 23, 2020

David O'Day said:

NHS Covid app developers 'tried to block rival symptom trackers'

David O'Day · Jun 23, 2020

Deleted member 5849 said:
NHS Covid app developers 'tried to block rival symptom trackers'

11 million quid, apps don;t cost that much to develop even when they are successful and take years to develop

fernandopartridge · Jun 23, 2020

David O'Day said:
But joking aside how the fuck have they spent 11 million quid in 3 months?

There are many software developers pointing out you can run whole companies for years on a couple of million.

They've have rolled in costs of various people working within NHSX into that I imagine. I posted on here a while ago about NHSX, created by Hancock and headed by one of his cronies was an utterly useless entity.

David O'Day · Jun 23, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
They've have rolled in costs of various people working within NHSX into that I imagine. I posted on here a while ago about NHSX, created by Hancock and headed by one of his cronies was an utterly useless entity.

But 11 million is still a massively over the top amount. You would spend only a fraction of this if you started a company and fully staffed it.

Over 3 months it's over 120k a day

fernandopartridge · Jun 23, 2020

ONS figures are out now, 54k deaths with covid on the death cert up to 12 June.

Wales not recording any excess deaths now, so you could argue they've brought it under control (by doing something different from little England).

SkyBlueDom26 · Jun 23, 2020

Saddlebrains said:
They've had 17 new cases on Sunday. Hardly cause for a lockdown is it? Do you get erect when you see bad news? Genuine question

, it’s almost as if they want one so they can say ‘I told you so’ and blame Boris and prove us that are saying there won’t be one wrong

SkyBlueDom26 · Jun 23, 2020

Can’t wait to hear what boris has to say tonight about next Saturday! Finally good times ahead, get me to the pub

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 23, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Don’t say that we might have brought it under control!!!!! You’ll get slated on here

Did you read what he put?

David O'Day · Jun 23, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Don’t say that we might have brought it under control!!!!! You’ll get slated on here

Fuck me you are a c**t.

No one has ever said they don't want things to get better and no one has ever said that the numbers are declining.

We want people to be careful where as you being the sick fuck you are don't care and your "Boris laddddddd" to look good.

You need help

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