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Nick

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,476
clint van damme said:
You keep saying it was ignored when paramedics done it. It wasn't.

You're doing what you slate the CET for doing when they report on city.
Make something up to try and get people angry.
Loads of people commented on the London bridge and outside of hospitals breach of guidelines.

It's still worse when the man who wrote the guidelines and told us to stick by them breaches them in my opinion.
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I haven't made anything up. I'm pointing out exactly as it was.

As it was applauding the NHS it was downplayed. Let's say 500 city fans gathered in broadgate next week, let's compare the reactions and outcomes.

People like Morgan witch hunting from the start, people going to the pub are selfish and putting lives at risk. Losing his head and going mental about it.

When you step back and have no political bias in it all, it's pretty easy to see.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,477
Nick said:
I haven't made anything up. I'm pointing out exactly as it was.

As it was applauding the NHS it was downplayed. Let's say 500 city fans gathered in broadgate next week, let's compare the reactions and outcomes.
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Who downplayed it?
Saw and heard loads of people comment on it. Including Morgan on GMB and on the radio on 5live.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,478
As soon as people were shown on the bridge clapping at the hospital all I saw was criticism of their hypocrisy
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,479
clint van damme said:
Who downplayed it?
Saw and heard loads of people comment on it. Including Morgan on GMB and on the radio on 5live.
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,480
clint van damme said:
Who downplayed it?
Saw and heard loads of people comment on it. Including Morgan on GMB and on the radio on 5live.
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Did he? Compare it to him going at people having a beer.

Was that the first week it happened or the second?

Have a look at threads on here.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,481
chiefdave said:
Completely agree with this. Seeing plenty of people who have not said a word when there was street parties, crowds clapping the NHS or people filling up parks & beaches but we're supposed to believe they're suddenly deeply concerned about crowds when its an anti-racism protest.
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Your wumming is off the scale these days Dave
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,482
Nick said:
It's been happening for months. Funny how when paramedics and live break the rules because it's for NHS it was largely ignored?


As I said, people need to take responsibility for their own actions.

It's all well and good saying love the NHS for months but it won't be showing a lot of love with the increase of cases that will come from the massive gatherings.

Either Corona is massively infectious and going out will kill our grannies or it won't.
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Oh christ shut the fuck up about the Westminster Bridge thing you're like a broken record, in the grand of scheme of things it was nothing to speak of

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Nick

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,483
fernandopartridge said:
Oh christ shut the fuck up about the Westminster Bridge thing you're like a broken record, in the grand of scheme of things it was nothing to speak of

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Yeah those hundreds of people mingling with on duty paramedics and ambulances was nothing.

The immunity when clapping must have kept them safe, let's hope the same thing applies for the people who have since chosen to crowd together.

What is the grand scheme of things? Is there a highly infectious virus going about or not?
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,484
Nick said:
Did he? Compare it to him going at people having a beer.

Was that the first week it happened or the second?

Have a look at threads on here.
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See NWs post.
I posted something similar at the time.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,485
clint van damme said:
See NWs post.
I posted something similar at the time.
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As I said, compare it to the disdain he was showing about people going for a pint.

The hypocritical c**t even went for a game of golf the other day.

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clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,486
Nick said:
As I said, compare it to the disdain he was showing about people going for a pint.

The hypocritical c**t even went for a game of golf the other day.
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So it's gone from people weren't bothered about it to they showed a different level of disdain?

Morgan being a hypocrite isn't something I'll argue about. He was one long before this pandemic started.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,487
Nick said:
As I said, compare it to the disdain he was showing about people going for a pint.

The hypocritical c**t even went for a game of golf the other day.
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So now he's not complaining in the right way for you. FFS.

He's allowed to go for a game of golf.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,488
Deleted member 5849 said:
So now he's not complaining in the right way for you. FFS.

He's allowed to go for a game of golf.
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So "that's stupid" isnt really bothered when going on about somebody going for a beer putting lives at risk, is it?

You would have thought somebody so bothered about Corona wouldn't have wanted to be so close to other people during a pandemic.

His entire existence is to try and stir particular things up, even him trying to make the Maddy mccann stuff about skin Colour was desperate.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,489
Not to stand up for Piers Morgan but golf has got to be one of the few social things you can very easily do safely, providing you're not licking each others wood for luck #sidjames
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,490
Nick said:
So "that's stupid" isnt really bothered when going on about somebody going for a beer putting lives at risk, is it?

You would have thought somebody so bothered about Corona wouldn't have wanted to be so close to other people during a pandemic.

His entire existence is to try and stir particular things up, even him trying to make the Maddy mccann stuff about skin Colour was desperate.
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The government has made a complete pigs ear of this.
From PPE to testing to track and trace to mixed messages but you're more bothered about piers fucking Morgan!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,491
ajsccfc said:
Not to stand up for Piers Morgan but golf has got to be one of the few social things you can very easily do safely, providing you're not licking each others wood for luck #sidjames
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I didn't think large gatherings like that were allowed and there was a limit on people?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,492
clint van damme said:
The government has made a complete pigs ear of this.
From PPE to testing to track and trace to mixed messages but you're more bothered about piers fucking Morgan!
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Nah I love the NHS and do so by crowding in with thousands of people.

It's the hypocrisy that gets me, government or not. In the real world People are losing their businesses, can't see their families, losing income but it all gets ignored as long as there's a "cause" and "morals".
 

ajsccfc

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,493
Nick said:
I didn't think large gatherings like that were allowed and there was a limit on people?
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Yeah I'm talking a handful of people playing a quiet round, if he's off on a big golf meet that's another story
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,494
Nick said:
Nah I love the NHS and do so by crowding in with thousands of people.

It's the hypocrisy that gets me, government or not.
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But you don't mention the government who have over seen this shit show.
They opened the beaches and said people could go there while local authorities weren't opening amenities.
They were lifting level 1 lockdown measures when they said we were transitioning from 3 to 4but then told us we were still on 4.

It's a mess and it's not the public's faiullt. That's not to say they haven't contributed.

But blaming them or piers Morgan is trying to deflect on the government's behalf.
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,495
clint van damme said:
But you don't mention the government who have over seen this shit show.
They opened the beaches and said people could go there while local authorities weren't opening amenities.
They were lifting level 1 lockdown measures when they said we were transitioning from 3 to 4but then told us we were still on 4.

It's a mess and it's not the public's faiullt. That's not to say they haven't contributed.

But blaming them or piers Morgan is trying to deflect on the government's behalf.
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I'm not trying to deflect anything, I'm not political in any shape or form.

I have said how Cummings should have been sacked, even if it's just for the eye test nonsense. I have no time for any mp, regardless of their party.

I'm not following graphs or r numbers every day at 5, I don't follow Brexit in the same way because of all the politics nonsense. I couldn't tell you what stage or number of lockdown we are in.

People should be able to use their own common sense surely? Saying stuff like if thousands gather then it's not their fault of it spreads, it's the government's like lineker and Morgan is nonsense.

Just because Cummings is a prick or the one who had his mistress over for a shag is a hypocrite, it doesn't make the hundreds of thousands across the country suddenly become immune.

No doubt it will be the government's fault if they do get it though? Not because they were stood in massive crowds.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,496
clint van damme said:
Matt Hancock has just said on Marr that not locking down earlier didn't cost lives. What a lying bastard.
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Just seen what provoked this response... and it n isn't b even a stinging attack on the government! Agreeing with this assessment doesn't even make the government look particularly bad, so why did Hancock go off at random bullshitting?!?

UK lockdown delay cost a lot of lives - scientist
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,497
Nick said:
I'm not trying to deflect anything, I'm not political in any shape or form.

I have said how Cummings should have been sacked, even if it's just for the eye test nonsense. I have no time for any mp, regardless of their party.

I'm not following graphs or r numbers every day at 5, I don't follow Brexit in the same way because of all the politics nonsense. I couldn't tell you what stage or number of lockdown we are in.

People should be able to use their own common sense surely? Saying stuff like if thousands gather then it's not their fault of it spreads, it's the government's like lineker and Morgan is nonsense.

Just because Cummings is a prick or the one who had his mistress over for a shag is a hypocrite, it doesn't make the hundreds of thousands across the country suddenly become immune.

No doubt it will be the government's fault if they do get it though? Not because they were stood in massive crowds.
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Would these protests have happened if we hadn't been seeing increasingly large gatherings on beaches and in parks over the last few weeks? I can't say for definte they wouldn't have but I think its been a gradual progression and the reason for those increased gatherings is the lack of clear messaging from the government.

As other countries have demonstrated you can have the protests and still follow the rules so yes, people need to take personal responsibility but poor leadership has put us where we are in.my opinion.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,498
Deleted member 5849 said:
Just seen what provoked this response... and it n isn't b even a stinging attack on the government! Agreeing with this assessment doesn't even make the government look particularly bad, so why did Hancock go off at random bullshitting?!?

UK lockdown delay cost a lot of lives - scientist
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Lying is second nature to him?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,499
clint van damme said:
Would these protests have happened if we hadn't been seeing increasingly large gatherings on beaches and in parks over the last few weeks? I can't say for definte they wouldn't have but I think its been a gradual progression and the reason for those increased gatherings is the lack of clear messaging from the government.

As other countries have demonstrated you can have the protests and still follow the rules so yes, people need to take personal responsibility but poor leadership has put us where we are in.my opinion.
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They are happening around the world so I doubt it's really paying much attention to our current lockdown level or what Cummings did.

It's naive to think they wouldn't be happening if Cummings hadn't done what he did or if the government had got more ppe and handled everything better.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,500
clint van damme said:
Would these protests have happened if we hadn't been seeing increasingly large gatherings on beaches and in parks over the last few weeks? I can't say for definte they wouldn't have but I think its been a gradual progression and the reason for those increased gatherings is the lack of clear messaging from the government.

As other countries have demonstrated you can have the protests and still follow the rules so yes, people need to take personal responsibility but poor leadership has put us where we are in.my opinion.
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Yes of course they would have happened anyway - otherwise you would belittle its intent - your attempt to blame the government for all breaches of protocol is tiring
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,501
Nick said:
They are happening around the world so I doubt it's really paying much attention to our current lockdown level or what Cummings did.

It's naive to think they wouldn't be happening if Cummings hadn't done what he did or if the government had got more ppe and handled everything better.
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It's really not naive.
Simple clear messages resonate.
Get Brexit done being a prime example.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,502
Grendel said:
Yes of course they would have happened anyway - otherwise you would belittle its intent - your attempt to blame the government for all breaches of protocol is tiring
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So is your attempts to defend them through all of this.
You're not stupid. You know they've made a complete arse of it.
They've still got Brexit to get us through.
Any sane person should be terrified at the thought
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,503
clint van damme said:
It's really not naive.
Simple clear messages resonate.
Get Brexit done being a prime example.
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And you think the majority of people gathering the last few days would have paid attention?

Like I said, when you step back and look at it without the politics without trying to sway something based on them it's pretty clear.

It's very naive to think there would have been protests elsewhere around the world but not here if Cummings hadn't gone for a drive, that other one hadn't got his end away and overall the government weren't out of touch hypocrites. Of course they would have.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,504
clint van damme said:
It's really not naive.
Simple clear messages resonate.
Get Brexit done being a prime example.
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Do you think if Mr Cummings had thrown acid over himself then others would copy as its clearly safe to do so? Your view of the lack of intelligence of people is very bewildering
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,505
Nick said:
You think people waited for Cummings to be a c**t first?
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No but once he was the government thought it was a better option to completely unravel the gains of lockdown rather than just sack the useless c**t.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,506
clint van damme said:
So is your attempts to defend them through all of this.
You're not stupid. You know they've made a complete arse of it.
They've still got Brexit to get us through.
Any sane person should be terrified at the thought
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I'm more worried about the here and now. I'm not defending any of them, they are all out of touch corrupt cunts in my eyes.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,507
clint van damme said:
So is your attempts to defend them through all of this.
You're not stupid. You know they've made a complete arse of it.
They've still got Brexit to get us through.
Any sane person should be terrified at the thought
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Having lost the ability to deny our worst death toll in Europe he's now moved on to finding excuses for it, which to be fair is what he said he'd do some time ago.
 

Nick

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,508
Ian1779 said:
No but once he was the government thought it was a better option to completely unravel the gains of lockdown rather than just sack the useless c**t.
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So if he had been sacked nobody would have gathered and fucked lockdown off? Madness.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,509
Nick said:
So if he had been sacked nobody would have gathered and fucked lockdown off? Madness.
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You’re asking the wrong person - ask the people that changed the rules of lockdown to cover him.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 7, 2020
  • #27,510
Nick said:
And you think the majority of people gathering the last few days would have paid attention?

Like I said, when you step back and look at it without the politics without trying to sway something based on them it's pretty clear.

It's very naive to think there would have been protests elsewhere around the world but not here if Cummings hadn't gone for a drive, that other one hadn't got his end away and overall the government weren't out of touch hypocrites. Of course they would have.
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You can't look at this without the politics. It's a massive political issue.
And if the government had been clear and consistent throughout and people had ignored them then there'd be no debate, the members of the public ignoring them would be culpable.

And it's not about 5here being no protests it's about protests happening while obeying the guidelines. Ive given 3 examples of where this has happened. It's has been widely ignored in this country as we've all Seen
 
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