Was lockdown to prevent a massive uncontrollable peak yes or no?
No one ever said it was until deaths or infections had reached a certain point.
Im not a tory or a lefty, but I've had enough. The MSM have made people believe this is necessary. It isnt anymore. We did what we were meant to do.
By all means if it fires back up again or there is a second wave ( which wont happen) then bring in the restrictions.
Coronavirus updates: Schools close again over South Korea virus spike - BBC News
The WHO don't think the virus is just going away
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Yes dom safelyWhy we have to start getting the economy going again and lifting the lockdown safely
The 2nd part of his name is up in front of trading standardsNah, Saddlebrains has said it's on its way out.
Knowing that dumb fuck he’ll probably invade the Isle of Man. Thinking it’s the Isle of White.
Somebody has to pay for furlough if you don't want business to foot 20%. Personally I'm happy to pay a little extra to support those less fortunate, and it seems you are too.Why we have to start getting the economy going again and lifting the lockdown safely
Sheffield won't open any of it's schools until the track and trace system has been fully operation for 14 days
Sensible
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Which means they won't be opening until September as track and trace won't be fully up and running until end of June.
Why don't we just scrap the rest of this school year and concentrate on getting schools as safe as we possibly can for September.
Temperature tests, PPE, spraying bags on entry,.deep clean over night.
Other countries are doing it.
The problem will be in those schools where remote learning hasn’t really been attempted or done effectively and so there would be huge issues for the exam classes. I do think they need at least some time in.
Practically, government isn't a bottomless money pit. Time to raise taxes to pay for the state aid.
Practically it is TBF. As long as they claw back enough through tax. Government is there to add and remove from the money supply. Who they add to and who they remove from is a political decision. Inflation is well down so that’s hardly a worry right now, interest rates are rock bottom.
Now isn’t the time for austerity through tax raises or spending cuts. It’s time to stimulate the economy and put money in people’s pockets. We can pay off the debt over decades like we always do.
I dont even know whey they are bullshitting about schools.
Whats the point, for a couple of weeks before they break up for the summer?
Wanting things to appear sort of normal?
Just messing people about.
Exactly, tax has to come in. If raising taxes enables more people to keep their jobs, that stimulates the economy. What doesn't is making people unemployed and having to pay them benefts instead.
But... somebody has to pay. It's pretty crazy to run up a massive debt and then have to pay it down, that stops your spending further down the line. And there's absolutely no reason why any of us should care about an extra penny or two on income tax, and a higher rate at a higher wage earning threshold.
Yep tax rises will just further depress demandDisagree. Raising taxes or cutting spending now stops people spending to get business back on its feet. The pandemic is a one off that it’s entirely sensible to borrow to get through.
I support tax rises for improving public services anyway. But the idea you pay for one off costs through them when borrowing is so cheap is dangerous and leads to the Question Time Audience Economists blathering on about buying pints with a tenner.
There’s nothing wrong with debt and deficit at a time of crisis. That’s what it’s there for.
So it wasn't actually Cummings' Dad's house at all, as he told everyone, it was his second residence. He's also on the electoral register there
There's some talk that document may be fake but who knows what's true or not anymore.
And if it is fake who's leaked it?
Would be convenient for Cummings to still be in the news if it keeps Jenrick and Raabs latest troubles off the front page.
This I find a lot more worrying- several people saying the same thing
Would be easy to disprove wouldn't it? Anyone can access the information online at the Land Registry for £3. He has certainly been on the electoral roll there, you can check that for free.There's some talk that document may be fake but who knows what's true or not anymore.
And if it is fake who's leaked it?
Would be convenient for Cummings to still be in the news if it keeps Jenrick and Raabs latest troubles off the front page.
There was this earlier in the week as well:This I find a lot more worrying- several people saying the same thing
Even in the briefing yesterday if you look at what Valance said compared to what Johnson said it gave cause for concern about easing lockdown.
I've always said,if I were comfortable they were following the scientific advice, I'd go along with it as how on earth can I judge myself?Even in the briefing yesterday if you look at what Valance said compared to what Johnson said it gave cause for concern about easing lockdown.
Am I missing something here? Find it concerning talking about using the Midlands as some sort of test to see if things can be opened without killing more people. Not helped by the fact Street mentions things like "economic driver" but no mention for public health.
West Midlands region seeking to be national test bed for re-opening hospitality and culture venues
Very concerning. All about the £££, not one care given as to the public health consequences (or even the economic consequences of opening too soon and ending up having to shut them again for even longer than we would've.
But we're 'being led by the science'. Even though the science says it's still too early, deaths and infections are still too high even if the trends are downward, Johnson has re-iterated the intention to go to level 3 when everything says it should remain at 4.
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