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stupot07

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,111
Fucking shithouses

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PVA

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,112
stupot07 said:
Fucking shithouses

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Unforgivable.

Johnson and Hancock should do time.

They won't, of course, but they should.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,113
stupot07 said:
Fucking shithouses

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Wow

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skybluetony176

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,114
Grendel said:
Remember thatcher at one point had a minus 60 rating in her first year and averaged minus 14 across her tenure - anyone with any political knowledge shows this actually will not worry him in the slightest
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Margaret Thatcher also had the Falklands crisis to pull her through. Boris is having his Falklands moment and fluffing his lines.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,115
skybluetony176 said:
Margaret Thatcher also had the Falklands crisis to pull her through. Boris is having his Falklands moment and fluffing his lines.
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Boris is probably looking for a weaker country as we speak

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Grendel

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,116
djr8369 said:
The Gove stuff is true but I don’t think it would keep him on. Plenty of ways he could tarnish Gove or boost Raab or Sunak.
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Real conviction politics at PM level has long gone. Thatcher whatever you think of her was the last real one other than Brown who was finished before he started - This is the new age developed by Blair and Campbell and its a winning formula
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,117
Grendel said:
As for the Cummings saga has any considered that this might just be a deliberately engineered strategy?
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I reckon he was having a laugh during Prince Andrew's interview and someone bet no-one could come up with a worse excuse than that. At which point Cummings replied "Hold my glasses"
 
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djr8369

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,118
skybluetony176 said:
Margaret Thatcher also had the Falklands crisis to pull her through. Boris is having his Falklands moment and fluffing his lines.
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It’s a good point. Initially we saw support for the government surge, effect of a crisis, but as the public see the way it’s been handled it’s dropping. Still, long way until an election. A change in leader, some bad publicity of labour, memories of the pandemic fade and it wouldn’t surprise me if they win the next election.
 
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djr8369

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,119
Grendel said:
Real conviction politics at PM level has long gone. Thatcher whatever you think of her was the last real one other than Brown who was finished before he started - This is the new age developed by Blair and Campbell and its a winning formula
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I don’t disagree but what point are you trying to make? That he can’t tarnish Gove or boost the others because we are in a post truth era of politics?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,120
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Not good it’s boring as fuck, we need to focus on the real issues
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Fair enough. Let's move on and start questioning Johnson on why he hasn't resigned seeing as he won't force someone out who broke the rules and thus he has no leadership. Or when he's going to resign for overseeing the highest death toll per capita in the world? Or any of the other myriad fuck ups and lies this government have made which are far too many for me to even bother going into here.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,121
PVA said:
Boring. Really?

That's your reasoning?

We should stop scrutinising things as soon as they become boring. Good grief.
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Makes you wonder why the Labour anti-semitism thing kept on going. That was boring as fuck so why didn't everyone just move on.

Oh yeah - because it's important!
 
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Grendel

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,122
djr8369 said:
I don’t disagree but what point are you trying to make? That he can’t tarnish Gove or boost the others because we are in a post truth era of politics?
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Im saying politics is really like a convoluted business game - it’s easy to win at national level for the Tories as labour and its dimwit membership get it wrong time and time again

I know it’s simplistic but look at local council level. Liars charlatans and REAL simpletons get elected time and time again

Cummings if he managed labour and allowed to rip up their absurd obsession with members dictating policy would have delivered far more seats
 

covmark

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,123
stupot07 said:
Fucking shithouses

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People should do time for this shit. It's a national fucking disgrace.

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,124
covmark said:
People should do time for this shit. It's a national fucking disgrace.

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If true and this was a private company it'd be corporate manslaughter.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,125
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If true and this was a private company it'd be corporate manslaughter.
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It's got to be reckless manslaughter



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skybluetony176

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,126
David O'Day said:
Boris is probably looking for a weaker country as we speak

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Knowing that dumb fuck he’ll probably invade the Isle of Man. Thinking it’s the Isle of White.
 

stupot07

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,127
Even the leftie remaining Spectator has waded in on Johnson. He really isnt fit to be PM.

Boris Johnson isn’t fit to lead | The Spectator


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PVA

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,128
stupot07 said:
Even the leftie remaining Spectator has waded in on Johnson. He really isnt fit to be PM.

Boris Johnson isn’t fit to lead | The Spectator


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Cummings' wife is the commissioning editor of The Spectator
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,129
stupot07 said:
Even the leftie remaining Spectator has waded in on Johnson. He really isnt fit to be PM.

Boris Johnson isn’t fit to lead | The Spectator


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This is a time when being in power matters more than doing anything good with it. In fact the challenge seems to be to do as shit a job as possible and still get in
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,130
One rule for the Elite and MP's and one rule for the rest of us, SHOCK HORROR.

 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,131
What’s happened jn france?? 3000 infections
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,132
Sky Blue Pete said:
What’s happened jn france?? 3000 infections
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I think Cummings went there to test his eyesight.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,133
Sky Blue Pete said:
What’s happened jn france?? 3000 infections
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Confirmed French coronavirus cases jump due to systems update, but daily deaths stay low

Due to an update, nothing to do with a massive spike
 

David O'Day

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,134
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Confirmed French coronavirus cases jump due to systems update, but daily deaths stay low

Due to an update, nothing to do with a massive spike
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So Dom you were here. Just ignoring the people who rightly pointed out the madness of pretending that all 5 tests have been met.



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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,135
David O'Day said:
So Dom you were here. Just ignoring the people who rightly pointed out the madness of pretending that all 5 tests have been met.



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What is wrong with you? We can’t sit in lockdown forever!!! We need to find a safe balance and now SAGE have advised that they have been met and we can slowly reopen the economy, nowhere else has had this second spike every Twitter ‘expert’ seems to think will happen
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,136
SkyBlueDom26 said:
What is wrong with you? We can’t sit in lockdown forever!!! We need to find a safe balance and now SAGE have advised that they have been met and we can slowly reopen the economy, nowhere else has had this second spike every Twitter ‘expert’ seems to think will happen
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I just hope it recovers enough so that we're not barred from going abroad. Seeing as we still have 350-400 dying a day, doesn't seem likely
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,137
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I just hope it recovers enough so that we're not barred from going abroad. Seeing as we still have 350-400 dying a day, doesn't seem likely
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Im not bothered about going away this year tbh, had a holiday cancelled in July! But hopefully in the next 2 weeks the numbers will be under the 100s
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,138
SkyBlueDom26 said:
What is wrong with you? We can’t sit in lockdown forever!!! We need to find a safe balance and now SAGE have advised that they have been met and we can slowly reopen the economy, nowhere else has had this second spike every Twitter ‘expert’ seems to think will happen
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South Korea reimposes some social distancing after COVID cases spike | Daily Mail Online
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,139
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Im not bothered about going away this year tbh, had a holiday cancelled in July! But hopefully in the next 2 weeks the numbers will be under the 100s
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I am, had one cancelled in April and have been working overtime with remote teaching with it set to get harder in June. Really need a week away!
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,140
Saddlebrains said:
A hell of a lot more of these examples online also. Worrying. Just what is the true amount? Double what we've been told or a quarter?

I tend to err on the side of the latter, hence my postings at the minute
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Lets assume that to be the case what do you believe has caused the additional 55K non-covid excess deaths?
 

chiefdave

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,141
Grendel said:
Excess deaths are not a good idea during the pandemic. The final analysis will evaluate excess deaths beyond the time period and smooth any subsequent reductions
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Not sure I'd take much comfort in that if I'd lost months with a parent / grandparent due to the governments incompetence.
 

covmark

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,142
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I am, had one cancelled in April and have been working overtime with remote teaching with it set to get harder in June. Really need a week away!
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You've been really quite vocal about the fact that you might have to teach pupils in a crowded classroom, but you're happy to mix in crowded airports and sit on aeroplanes with numerous others. Strange.

There's plenty of us that have been working overtime, extra shifts etc. Not feeling particularly desperate to get away now tbh. We had our August holiday cancelled. Seems it might well have gone ahead. However I don't fancy being on holiday and being restricted on what we can do, where we can go. I'd rather wait a while and enjoy our time away.

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oakey

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,143
Sums it up really. Ratings and opinion polls matter more than the body count.
Popularity v people's lives.
Shameful.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,144
covmark said:
You've been really quite vocal about the fact that you might have to teach pupils in a crowded classroom, but you're happy to mix in crowded airports and sit on aeroplanes with numerous others. Strange.

There's plenty of us that have been working overtime, extra shifts etc. Not feeling particularly desperate to get away now tbh. We had our August holiday cancelled. Seems it might well have gone ahead. However I don't fancy being on holiday and being restricted on what we can do, where we can go. I'd rather wait a while and enjoy our time away.

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To get to a country with hardly any new infections and which has managed the outbreak much better than we have and which will have something close to a normal tourist experience. You go on about the airports but the week spent in Greece will probably be safer than a week here if we're on about infections. We're also on about some point in mid July when even we should be out or nearly out of the woods.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 28, 2020
  • #26,145
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I am, had one cancelled in April and have been working overtime with remote teaching with it set to get harder in June. Really need a week away!
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Maybe you’ll be back teaching in the class room within a month? Would you be comfortable with that or do you personally think it’s too early
 
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