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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,416
Sick Boy said:
It is only a matter of time, IMO, unfortunately. I saw an article about how someone in Japan has caught it for the second time.
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Sounds like the odd person at the moment
 

ccfc1234

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,417
My mum works in healthcare. She said in 2009 circa 480 people died from swine flu and no sports were cancelled. Many thousands died worldwide however this pandemic seems to be much more critical and scary for the world? Why? One theory my brother proposed is that in 2009 we had globalists running the world's agenda. Since then populism has taken over with trump, brexit and other countries showing the same tendencies in voting. The media and left are strong advocates of the globalist agenda and are using fear to try and bring governments to their knees. Climate change is not too dissimilar in that it has been weponised by the left anti capitalist brigade to create fear I.e. 20 years before the end of life as we know it. Nothing controls behaviours of humans like fear does.
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,418
ccfc1234 said:
My mum works in healthcare. She said in 2009 circa 480 people died from swine flu and no sports were cancelled. Many thousands died worldwide however this pandemic seems to be much more critical and scary for the world? Why? One theory my brother proposed is that in 2009 we had globalists running the world's agenda. Since then populism has taken over with trump, brexit and other countries showing the same tendencies in voting. The media and left are strong advocates of the globalist agenda and are using fear to try and bring governments to their knees. Climate change is not too dissimilar in that it has been weponised by the left anti capitalist brigade to create fear I.e. 20 years before the end of life as we know it. Nothing controls behaviours of humans like fear does.
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Maybe lay off the infowars theories.


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Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,419
Sick Boy said:
It is only a matter of time, IMO, unfortunately. I saw an article about how someone in Japan has caught it for the second time.
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Most experts believe this is an extremely rare occurrence and most individuals will build natural immunity
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,420
dubed said:
China Coronavirus: 80,824 Cases and 3,189 Deaths - Worldometer
china population - Google Search
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If you believe that then you need to have a rethink, millions and millions will have or of had it..... remember nearly 800 confirmed here however the government said its more likely 5-10k
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,421
Grendel said:
Most experts believe this is an extremely rare occurrence and most individuals will build natural immunity
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Ahhh so you’re now trusting experts haha
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,422
SkyBlueDom26 said:
If you believe that then you need to have a rethink, millions and millions will have or of had it..... remember nearly 800 confirmed here however the government said its more likely 5-10k
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Yeah it’s weird that some people seem to think that China has been completely honest with its statistics as well.

The situation there has likely been, and is much, much worse.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,423
ccfc1234 said:
My mum works in healthcare. She said in 2009 circa 480 people died from swine flu and no sports were cancelled. Many thousands died worldwide however this pandemic seems to be much more critical and scary for the world? Why? One theory my brother proposed is that in 2009 we had globalists running the world's agenda. Since then populism has taken over with trump, brexit and other countries showing the same tendencies in voting. The media and left are strong advocates of the globalist agenda and are using fear to try and bring governments to their knees. Climate change is not too dissimilar in that it has been weponised by the left anti capitalist brigade to create fear I.e. 20 years before the end of life as we know it. Nothing controls behaviours of humans like fear does.
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Wow. I wondered how long it’d be before someone blamed ‘the left’.
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,424
Sick Boy said:
Ahhh so you’re now trusting experts haha
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If they’re the ones Cummings and BJ listen to. Any others are still ignored.


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Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,425
Sick Boy said:
Ahhh so you’re now trusting experts haha
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Well people who are studying this every minute of every day you assume will have a better understanding of its likely development wouldn’t you? These aren’t economists these are scientists whose job is to analyse such things
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,426
Sick Boy said:
Wow. I wondered how long it’d be before someone blamed ‘the left’.
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And “globalist” is a shrouded term for the Jewish people in some circles so that’s lovely. Was only a matter of time.


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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,427
Grendel said:
Well people who are studying this every minute of every day you assume will have a better understanding of its likely development wouldn’t you? These aren’t economists these are scientists whose job is to analyse such things
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Ahh so you’re picking and choosing which ones to believe to back up your own viewpoint and discarding the others.
Interesting.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,428
djr8369 said:
If they’re the ones Cummings and BJ listen to. Any others are still ignored.


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It seems schools are already closed
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,429
SkyBlueDom26 said:
remember nearly 800 confirmed here however the government said its more likely 5-10k
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Yes, it will be more, just as so few of us are tested for influenza. But plucking guesses and statements out of the air is just ridiculous.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,430
Sick Boy said:
Ahh so you’re picking and choosing which ones to believe to back up your own viewpoint and discarding the others.
Interesting.
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Not really I’m not aware of any who are actually studying the virus believe there is no immunisation impact.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,431
David O'Day said:
It could be either, we won't know until they remove all their measures if it will flare up again
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So Boris and his advisers might be right?
 

Astute

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,432
Sick Boy said:
Is there any proof that once you’ve had it you are immune??
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It could be true.

Had it with my wife several times recently. Neither of us have the virus.
 
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Astute

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,433
David O'Day said:
Too ge fair that piece is saying if things get as bad as they are I italy we won't gave the hospital capacity
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Are you trying to do an impression of CC4L?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,434
Astute said:
So Boris and his advisers might be right?
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lol- this all makes great reading as people juggle semantics to try and pretend Boris and the “experts” were right all along. Unfortunately their failed experiment shows otherwise. The rest of the world was right, they weren’t.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,435
Ring Of Steel said:
lol- this all makes great reading as people juggle semantics to try and pretend Boris and the “experts” were right all along. Unfortunately their failed experiment shows otherwise. The rest of the world was right, they weren’t.
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You really are terrified aren’t you
 
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Astute

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,436
Ring Of Steel said:
lol- this all makes great reading as people juggle semantics to try and pretend Boris and the “experts” were right all along. Unfortunately their failed experiment shows otherwise. The rest of the world was right, they weren’t.
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So you now disagree with what you have said?
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,437
The role of the immune system is to prevent future infections by the same pathogen, and it works in the HUGE majority of cases, but there will always be the exceptions - like the HANDFUL of people who have repeated chickenpox infection into adulthood. Of course, that doesn't take account of when the virus mutates in a way which will deceive the immune system (i.e. a specific mutation in one of two or three genes in the whole virus genome). There is NO evidence thus far that this coronavirus has any greater mutation rate than others in the family, and NO evidence that there are mutated strains in circulation.
Having said that, this is the problem with developing vaccines for the common cold (may of which are also caused by coronaviruses). They have pretty much given up doing so because EVERYONE will get them and it's impractical to vaccinate the entire population for a disease that really isn't very harmful. Influenza vaccines are given to millions every year, and apparently there is a degree of immunity in the population - and yet it still kills (as a rough average) 8000 people in England every year from its complications.
It doesn't really matter how many cases of COVID19 there are in the UK - we should be encouraged that as few as 11 have died - it IS important to keep the vulnerable out of harm's way, but we can't protect everyone.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,438
ccfc1234 said:
My mum works in healthcare. She said in 2009 circa 480 people died from swine flu and no sports were cancelled. Many thousands died worldwide however this pandemic seems to be much more critical and scary for the world? Why? One theory my brother proposed is that in 2009 we had globalists running the world's agenda. Since then populism has taken over with trump, brexit and other countries showing the same tendencies in voting. The media and left are strong advocates of the globalist agenda and are using fear to try and bring governments to their knees. Climate change is not too dissimilar in that it has been weponised by the left anti capitalist brigade to create fear I.e. 20 years before the end of life as we know it. Nothing controls behaviours of humans like fear does.
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Mate. Have some time offline. Maybe a cup of tea. You've gone full mental. Never go full mental.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,439
Premier league 75% chance it will not be completed according to a high up source that has spoke to sky.......

Time to panic lads, we really could have this taken away from us
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,440
Grendel said:
You really are terrified aren’t you
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I only just got up and the hangover is a bit terrifying, suspected catching up on here would be entertaining when I finally got out of my pit, it hasn’t disappointed.

honestly? No not terrified, tbh a bit tired of it all now, in the same boat as lots of others by having older parents but I’m too sick of it to be afraid. Looking forward to the aggro on here at some point

it’s just good to see that the ‘experts’ have realised that social engineering shouldn’t be their priority and the safety of the population should be, not the time to be carrying out experiments. There was never any doubt Boris would bend and crack soon as he thought people might not like him for something.
 

better days

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,441
ccfc1234 said:
My mum works in healthcare. She said in 2009 circa 480 people died from swine flu and no sports were cancelled. Many thousands died worldwide however this pandemic seems to be much more critical and scary for the world? Why? One theory my brother proposed is that in 2009 we had globalists running the world's agenda. Since then populism has taken over with trump, brexit and other countries showing the same tendencies in voting. The media and left are strong advocates of the globalist agenda and are using fear to try and bring governments to their knees. Climate change is not too dissimilar in that it has been weponised by the left anti capitalist brigade to create fear I.e. 20 years before the end of life as we know it. Nothing controls behaviours of humans like fear does.
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Pretty reasonable analysis
Also social media wasn't around to anything like the extent it is now in 2009
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,442
If teams get promoted but nobody relegated would it work in the lower devisions?? Like top 2 from each league
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,443
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Premier league 75% chance it will not be completed according to a high up source that has spoke to sky.......

Time to panic lads, we really could have this taken away from us
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They are holding another meeting next Thursday after there is confirmation regarding the Euros
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,444
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Premier league 75% chance it will not be completed according to a high up source that has spoke to sky.......

Time to panic lads, we really could have this taken away from us
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who is the high up source- Richard Keys?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,445
SkyBlueDom26 said:
If teams get promoted but nobody relegated would it work in the lower devisions?? Like top 2 from each league
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Id rather be in the top 2 than 3rd that is for sure
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,446
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Premier league 75% chance it will not be completed according to a high up source that has spoke to sky.......

Time to panic lads, we really could have this taken away from us
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I don’t know what to think, apart from there is no metric anywhere that doesn’t have us promoted if they allow movement between divisions. Everything so vague.
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,447
Ring Of Steel said:
I don’t know what to think, apart from there is no metric anywhere that doesn’t have us promoted if they allow movement between divisions. Everything so vague.
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Not sure if this option has been mentioned but what about teams like us and Liverpool, where any metric you applied would have us winning the league, we’re crowned champions and anyone where there is contention just stay where they are?

Everyone option has somebody losing out and arguing about it so what if season is declared void except for those teams where it’s undeniable that they would go up or win league no matter what model you applied.


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Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,448
djr8369 said:
Not sure if this option has been mentioned but what about teams like us and Liverpool, where any metric you applied would have us winning the league, we’re crowned champions and anyone where there is contention just stay where they are?

Everyone option has somebody losing out and arguing about it so what if season is declared void except for those teams where it’s undeniable that they would go up or win league no matter what model you applied.


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Is this a wind up?
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,449
Grendel said:
Is this a wind up?
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What solution do you think will be put in place?


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Grendel

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  • Mar 14, 2020
  • #2,450
djr8369 said:
What solution do you think will be put in place?


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well I don’t know but how can you compare us to Liverpool? Leeds and WBA are equally as likely to get promoted as we are if not more so.
 
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