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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,431
Even lifelong Conservative voters must be starting to question these incompetent lot, surely there must be better in the party than this lot??!
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,432
Sick Boy said:
Even lifelong Conservative voters must be starting to question these incompetent lot, surely there must be better in the party than this lot??!
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The party have abandoned a whole host of their voters when they left them to die in care homes as well.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,433
Who looks after Cummings' kids when both parents are at work? Surely they must have some friends. Actually, I doubt it.

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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,434
fernandopartridge said:
Who looks after Cummings' kids when both parents are at work? Surely they must have some friends. Actually, I doubt it.

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He probably just leaves them at home and if they die they weren’t strong enough.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,435
shmmeee said:
He probably just leaves them at home and if they die they weren’t strong enough.
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It sounds like his son was around him a lot when he was ill (and confined in a car with him on a 250 mile journey).

I know there seems to be a bit of consensus now that the virus doesn't affect children as much but in fairly sure that wasn't the opinion at the time.
Seems highly irresponsible.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,436
clint van damme said:
It sounds like his son was around him a lot when he was ill (and confined in a car with him on a 250 mile journey).

I know there seems to be a bit of consensus now that the virus doesn't affect children as much but in fairly sure that wasn't the opinion at the time.
Seems highly irresponsible.
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Selfish and irresponsible how old are the parents?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,437
Sky Blue Pete said:
Selfish and irresponsible how old are the parents?
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I'm not sure. Haven't seen their ages mentioned so assuming under 70 or I think it would have been picked up on
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,438
Ring Of Steel said:
her story is unravelling on Twitter, she’s basically just repeated what Cummings told her without question, now as it becomes clear he’s lying it’s also clear she’s purely operating as his mouthpiece. Incredibly embarrassing, highly unprofessional... and ultimately due to the way the U.K. has gone nobody will care and life will carry on as before.

Even though it’s been proven he’s lying, Downing St have announced that travelling 250m to see your parents while positive with COVID19 “did not break any guidelines”. Country’s gone to shit.
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I’m sick of these pricks and we’re not even a year in
 
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Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,439
Sky Blue Pete said:
Selfish and irresponsible how old are the parents?
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His mum is 71, it was her birthday party apparently when he was up there.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,440
Incredible how many people are willing to stand up and defend somebody who at the least is guilty of rank hypocrisy and under any reasonable interpretation has broken the law. People are increasingly accepting and defensive of their own sides transgressions and willing to believe opposing narratives to a point that threatens the values and morals of this country. If this trend continues I fear the consequences.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,441
djr8369 said:
Incredible how many people are willing to stand up and defend somebody who at the least is guilty of rank hypocrisy and under any reasonable interpretation has broken the law. People are increasingly accepting and defensive of their own sides transgressions and willing to believe opposing narratives to a point that threatens the values and morals of this country. If this trend continues I fear the consequences.
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Not far away from fascism

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,442
Sick Boy said:
Even lifelong Conservative voters must be starting to question these incompetent lot, surely there must be better in the party than this lot??!
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Cameron - May - Johnson - ...
 
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djr8369

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,443
fernandopartridge said:
Not far away from fascism

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People have been making comparisons to facism for a long time and it has been met largely with ridicule. However, there is no doubt, in my mind, that we are seeing things happen that would be steps along the journey towards facism. That's not to say it will happen just that some conditions to facilitate have and are taking place.
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,444
djr8369 said:
People have been making comparisons to facism for a long time and it has been met largely with ridicule. However, there is no doubt, in my mind, that we are seeing things happen that would be steps along the journey towards facism. That's not to say it will happen just that some conditions to facilitate have and are taking place.
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Johnson is a big fan of Orban and Hungary is for all intents now a facist state.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,445
djr8369 said:
People have been making comparisons to facism for a long time and it has been met largely with ridicule. However, there is no doubt, in my mind, that we are seeing things happen that would be steps along the journey towards facism. That's not to say it will happen just that some conditions to facilitate have and are taking place.
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The widespread usage of language like patriots, traitors etc is a worry
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,446
Wasn't there a yougov poll a while before the election asking if people would be happy to be led by an unelected leader, i found that very worrying.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,447
Rusty Trombone said:
His mum is 71, it was her birthday party apparently when he was up there.
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Handy
 
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djr8369

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,448
Sick Boy said:
The widespread usage of language like patriots, traitors etc is a worry
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Yup, the patterns are there. Slippery slope but unless the government are opening gulags many will see it as harmless.


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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,449
His kid is 4 so they did need to do something. Pretty sure load of parents found themselves in similar positions. Wonder if the rules should have reflected this reality rather than not and as for him fighting it when he really should have been in hospital - what a complete knob
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,450
Grant Shapps hair should have it's own TV series.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,451
clint van damme said:
Grant Shapps hair should have it's own TV series.
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The 70s are best left where they are

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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,452
The briefing is going so badly today I'm actually starting to feel sorry for Shapps. Sent out to defend the indefensible, no doubt as nobody more senior has the guts to do it themselves.
 
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wingy

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,453
Mmmm.
Is the weight of what they're saying here that it's ok to go to a second home or an Airbnb , holiday let etc.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,454
Sky Blue Pete said:
His kid is 4 so they did need to do something. Pretty sure load of parents found themselves in similar positions. Wonder if the rules should have reflected this reality rather than not and as for him fighting it when he really should have been in hospital - what a complete knob
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According to the government guidelines if you are unable to look after your children when you are displaying symptoms you should contact the local authority.

Also Jack Wakefield, who is Cummings brother in law, lives less than a mile away from them in London.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,455
Cummings really can't last much longer.



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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,456
chiefdave said:
According to the government guidelines if you are unable to look after your children when you are displaying symptoms you should contact the local authority.

Also Jack Wakefield, who is Cummings brother in law, lives less than a mile away from them in London.
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Yep I know. Quite cross
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,457
No apology either he doesn’t give a shit completely above the law
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,458
chiefdave said:
According to the government guidelines if you are unable to look after your children when you are displaying symptoms you should contact the local authority.

Also Jack Wakefield, who is Cummings brother in law, lives less than a mile away from them in London.
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the advice at the time was explicit. If you have symptoms do not leave the house under any circumstances.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,459
clint van damme said:
the advice at the time was explicit. If you have symptoms do not leave the house under any circumstances.
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What if you were doing some DIY and chopped your hand off?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,460
clint van damme said:
the advice at the time was explicit.
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Coincidence how the advice changed once he'd done this? They even dropped 'stay home' in favour of 'stay alert'.

At the end of the day if they were doing nothing wrong why has it been kept secret? His wife has written in the Mail, Spectator and been on Radio 4 describing how they coped with being symptomatic. All the while implying they were in London and no mention of travelling to Durham or help from his family.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,461
Grendel said:
What if you were doing some DIY and chopped your hand off?
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I'd call 999 rather than drive 250 miles mate.



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Grendel

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,462
Id imagine Mr Cummings frightening indiscretion is likely to gain more attention and outrage than Fred and Rose and the new patio. Certainly more outrage
 

clint van damme

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,463
Grendel said:
What if you were doing some DIY and chopped your hand off?
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why would you be doing DIY if you were as ill as Wakefield claimed Cummings was?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,464
Grendel said:
Id imagine Mr Cummings frightening indiscretion is likely to gain more attention and outrage than Fred and Rose and the new patio. Certainly more outrage
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Fred and Rose didn't tell everyone else not to bury young women under the patio before doing it themselves!!
 
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Grendel

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  • May 23, 2020
  • #24,465
clint van damme said:
why would you be doing DIY if you were as ill as Wakefield claimed Cummings was?
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Missing the point. This whole outrage is funny
 
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