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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,911
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Confused by that mate! So they all weren't on the same day then?
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You’re not the only one ! What they are saying (and to be fair I’ve heard the medical officers saying it previously) is that the daily death numbers aren’t just the deaths that have occurred on that given day

ps as far as I’m aware the confirmed cases are more accurate assessment of the numbers for that day (might be wrong though).
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,912
skybluetony176 said:
That’s my family’s annual Easter pilgrimage to Bundoran our the window then.
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I'd say you're right! I've never been to Donegal, never been further north than Tipperary in fact..
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,913
Grendel said:
That’s not the question I posed

When you last posted you said the army would be in and we’d have full military lockdown. Rubbish wasn’t it?
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Given that you said the Russian army was patrolling the streets of Italy it’s probably best advised that you don’t go down that route.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,914
CCFCSteve said:
You’re not the only one ! What they are saying (and to be fair I’ve heard the medical officers saying it previously) is that the daily death numbers aren’t just the deaths that have occurred on that given day

ps as far as I’m aware the confirmed cases are more accurate assessment of the numbers for that day (might be wrong though).
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Cumulatives make the most sense
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,915
fernandopartridge said:
Saw a story that they'd turned a family from Wigan around (family of 6) and escorted them back to the M6. I seriously do not understand what is wrong with some people. I know not everybody has a garden or outside space, but a family of 6 from Wigan is likely to.
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Ive give up trying to understand people’s actions. All we can hope is that it’s a tiny minority (i fear not though)
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,916
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Confused by that mate! So they all weren't on the same day then?
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No Dom, I put something similar up last week.
That's why you can't get too hung up and the numbers there's a whole host of reasons why they may not be accurate. It must be a nightmare trying to record them accurately at the moment.
When the curve starts to flatten you'll know.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,917
CCFCSteve said:
Ive give up trying to understand people’s actions. All we can hope is that it’s a tiny minority (i fear not though)
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Biggest problems here are with the travelling/ Roma community apparently- ignoring social distancing, can't read the instructions, big numbers living on top of each other etc.. probably no surprise that they are suffering disproportionately with infection rates.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,918
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Tbh that blimp was an utter embarrassment and made us look pathetic to the USA
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So much for the great British sense of humour. Do you really think America isn’t parodying Trump themselves? Have you ever seen Saturday Night Live?
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,919
David O'Day said:
I know this weirdo has blocked me but I'm just going to laugh at him for pretending this is what he meant by more lockdown restrictions
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Someone has blocked you? I am genuinely stunned by this news

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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,920
Ring Of Steel said:
I'd say you're right! I've never been to Donegal, never been further north than Tipperary in fact..
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You don’t know what you’re missing out on. Bundoran? More like Fundoran It’s like Blackpool, only less classy and with less to do.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,921
skybluetony176 said:
So much for the great British sense of humour. Do you really think America isn’t parodying Trump themselves? Have you ever seen Saturday Night Live?
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Yeah I agree- if you're in that position you need to be able to handle this stuff. Anyway Trump is a dangerous psycho and needs locking up.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,922
Marty said:
Lol, I have criticized many white politicians too.
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Yep you've lied about what they have said then spent hours attacking them for following the advise of the health experts.

Oh wait you haven't

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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,923
skybluetony176 said:
You don’t know what you’re missing out on. Bundoran? More like Fundoran It’s like Blackpool, only less classy and with less to do.
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lol- everyone kept telling me about Youghal, went there and its like the lights were all switched off in about 1983
 
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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,924
fernandopartridge said:
National Trust places closed
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Them opening them up to everyone for free didn't last long!
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,925
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Tbh that blimp was an utter embarrassment and made us look pathetic to the USA
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No it didn't. The yanks loved it and as he said at the time legally he couldn't turn it down and then allow the racists to have a blimp of him.

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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,926
Ring Of Steel said:
I'd say you're right! I've never been to Donegal, never been further north than Tipperary in fact..
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To be fair, that’s a long way ; )
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,927
CCFCSteve said:
To be fair, that’s a long way ; )
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Not far enough when your inlaws live there
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,928
CCFCSteve said:
You’re not the only one ! What they are saying (and to be fair I’ve heard the medical officers saying it previously) is that the daily death numbers aren’t just the deaths that have occurred on that given day

ps as far as I’m aware the confirmed cases are more accurate assessment of the numbers for that day (might be wrong though).
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What is confusing about it. It's the deaths reported on that day not the amount of deaths that day

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David O'Day

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,929
skybluetony176 said:
Given that you said the Russian army was patrolling the streets of Italy it’s probably best advised that you don’t go down that route.
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He's right though. Astute did predict this and is now claiming the national trust closing their parks as a vindication

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Astute

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,930
TomRad85 said:
Someone has blocked you? I am genuinely stunned by this news

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Only have one idiot blocked so I am as shocked as yourself that I can't see who posted to what you have replied to :smuggrin:
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,931
David O'Day said:
What is confusing about it. It's the deaths reported on that day not the amount of deaths that day
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What is confusing to me is why we have the same discussion about this every day yet people still act surprised.

The ONS figures are more accurate but don’t come out daily and are always weeks later as they allow time for everything to be reported and allocated to the date of death rather than date of reporting.

But even those figures won’t be completely accurate. The closest we’ll probably get is comparing the total death rate (all causes) to the same time in previous years.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,932
David O'Day said:
What is confusing about it. It's the deaths reported on that day not the amount of deaths that day

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I know, my point was that Dom wasn’t the only one, a lot of people (in particular the media) have been following those numbers alone, even though it’s been stated previously that they aren’t just deaths that occurred that day (the medical officers have obviously got to the point where they wanted to be explicit hence the accompanying note)

I’m a little surprised by the split though, thought a higher proportion might be from actual day and also not so may from last month. This does make reading the potential peak from these impossible (confirmed cases should be a better guide)
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,933
Astute said:
You are an obnoxious twat.

I said what had happened elsewhere. This is the only thing that hadn't happened. So you ignore the rest and back the Tories. I wasn't making it up. If I had I would have been wrong on businesses closing, schools closing, fines being introduced an the lockdown happening. Not my fault that the Tories could have done more.
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And you came back to this thread after a few days behind the lines? I’d leave em to it.. That isn’t a slight on you. This thread is toxic.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,934
chiefdave said:
What is confusing to me is why we have the same discussion about this every day yet people still act surprised.

The ONS figures are more accurate but don’t come out daily and are always weeks later as they allow time for everything to be reported and allocated to the date of death rather than date of reporting.

But even those figures won’t be completely accurate. The closest we’ll probably get is comparing the total death rate (all causes) to the same time in previous years.
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as you say... Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Office for National Statistics
 

SeaSeeEffCee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,935
Another doctor has passed away due to the virus. Very sad.

Coronavirus: Doctor who warned prime minister about PPE dies with COVID-19
 

Otis

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,936
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Another doctor has passed away due to the virus. Very sad.

Coronavirus: Doctor who warned prime minister about PPE dies with COVID-19
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Terrible news.
 
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Astute

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,937
chiefdave said:
What is confusing to me is why we have the same discussion about this every day yet people still act surprised.

The ONS figures are more accurate but don’t come out daily and are always weeks later as they allow time for everything to be reported and allocated to the date of death rather than date of reporting.

But even those figures won’t be completely accurate. The closest we’ll probably get is comparing the total death rate (all causes) to the same time in previous years.
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How can you be confused that many on here have an agenda to keep up with?

Labour good Tories bad. Tories good Labour bad. Black person good target. Black person racist target.

My moral understanding of the British public has taken a big hit recently.

This is more than party politics. This is more than racism and perceived racism. It is about life and death. The real thing that matters. Had enough of the point scoring.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,938
CCFCSteve said:
You’re not the only one ! What they are saying (and to be fair I’ve heard the medical officers saying it previously) is that the daily death numbers aren’t just the deaths that have occurred on that given day

ps as far as I’m aware the confirmed cases are more accurate assessment of the numbers for that day (might be wrong though).
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There is a lag there too, new case numbers per day are possibly inaccurate in some respects as they don't reflect when somebody was tested. I think it takes a couple of days to get a positive confirmation at least.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,939
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Another doctor has passed away due to the virus. Very sad.

Coronavirus: Doctor who warned prime minister about PPE dies with COVID-19
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R.I.P. but no need for the point scoring on Boris
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,940
chiefdave said:
While the rest of the country has pretty effortlessly switched to working from home it seems MPs need an extra £10K in expenses allowance to do the same. At the same time rules will be relaxed so they don't need to provide any proof of what the money they claim has been spent on. Can't see any chance of that system being abused.

All while criticising footballers for not taking a pay cut.
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Smarmy bastards.

Don't they mostly work from one of their houses anyway? 10k?

Shame on them.
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,941
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Another doctor has passed away due to the virus. Very sad.

Coronavirus: Doctor who warned prime minister about PPE dies with COVID-19
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Shocking really, how many NHS staff is that now?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,942
fernandopartridge said:
R.I.P. but no need for the point scoring on Boris
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Isn't that the aim of this thread? Point scoring politics.

I hope somebody has a tally going.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,943
skybluetony176 said:
Given that you said the Russian army was patrolling the streets of Italy it’s probably best advised that you don’t go down that route.
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Fascinating story - got a link?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,944
David O'Day said:
He's right though. Astute did predict this and is now claiming the national trust closing their parks as a vindication

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The trust closed well before the army exclusive
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2020
  • #14,945
Flying Fokker said:
And you came back to this thread after a few days behind the lines? I’d leave em to it.. That isn’t a slight on you. This thread is toxic.
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You are not wrong. Was never going to post on here again. But human inquisitivity kept me reading.

Racist posts that were clearly racist. Racist accusations that were clearly not racist. Bullshit that was clearly bullshit.

And that was the first page in about 200. Some people seriously need help.
 
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