clint van damme
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Never thought of that aspect of it. How losing an abnormal number of patients would hit morale. Must be horrendous.
But ultimately the situation would be a lot worse without their efforts.
Never thought of that aspect of it. How losing an abnormal number of patients would hit morale. Must be horrendous.Having spoken to my son who is a frontline doctor dealing with Covid19. It really struck home the seriousness of the infection. He is seeing patients die that have previously been fit and well and the time it takes to stabilise people is long........and some are not responding to ventilation, so leaving the medics with a decision to remove it and watch them die, as there is not prospect to recover.
Additionally they've lost a nurse who was working on the Covid wards and needed ventilating.
As medics they are used to getting positive outcomes and this is hitting moral.
Because Rees-Mogg wants to make a few quidGetting a bit tired of seeing football players getting all the moral outrage and being asked to take a pay cut, therefore reducing PAYE and reducing potential NHS funding at this time. Why don't they limit abnormal stockmarket gains for 3 months, thereby stopping people profiting from COVID19 and sucking money from public to private, and have a serious look at the bailout requests by huge corporations before going nuts about football players, what good is that going to do apart from make a few holier-than-thou people feel better about themselves.
Getting a bit tired of seeing football players getting all the moral outrage and being asked to take a pay cut, therefore reducing PAYE and reducing potential NHS funding at this time. Why don't they limit abnormal stockmarket gains for 3 months, thereby stopping people profiting from COVID19 and sucking money from public to private, and have a serious look at the bailout requests by huge corporations before going nuts about football players, what good is that going to do apart from make a few holier-than-thou people feel better about themselves.
It's grenners though innit, if he stunned his toe he would blame the eu
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Do you reckon? Let’s see how much they are remembered when it comes to pay talks and I’m not just talking nurses.All I can say to you, which is not much but very much meant, is please give your son massive massive best wishes and thank him. I don't think anyone will forget what him & his colleagues are doing.
Firstly, I cannot believe many of the premier league players are on a standard PAYE setup & I imagine most of them pay very little tax proportionally when compared to Joe Bloggs....
...its also intrinsically linked to the totally justified outrage at CUNTY clubs like Liverpool & Spurs who are getting the tax payer to pay the wage of the clubs toilet cleaners & hotdog sellers, yet happily shovel millions per week towards their "stars".....
My sister is a consultant at UCH in London and while it's not nice here they are seeing some sightsNever thought of that aspect of it. How losing an abnormal number of patients would hit morale. Must be horrendous.
But ultimately the situation would be a lot worse without their efforts.
Do you reckon? Let’s see how much they are remembered when it comes to pay talks and I’m not just talking nurses.
Yeah but people stub their toe in Italy and Germany too.
And here's an irrelevant point about Macron. And supermarkets.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=223067632086920Firstly, I cannot believe many of the premier league players are on a standard PAYE setup & I imagine most of them pay very little tax proportionally when compared to Joe Bloggs....
...its also intrinsically linked to the totally justified outrage at CUNTY clubs like Liverpool & Spurs who are getting the tax payer to pay the wage of the clubs toilet cleaners & hotdog sellers, yet happily shovel millions per week towards their "stars".....
CorrectThe only things we know for sure...
1. Everyone will say "the next two weeks are critical" every day
2. At about 4pm each day ccfc84 will ask Sickboy if the Italy figures are out yet
Getting a bit tired of seeing football players getting all the moral outrage and being asked to take a pay cut, therefore reducing PAYE and reducing potential NHS funding at this time. Why don't they limit abnormal stockmarket gains for 3 months, thereby stopping people profiting from COVID19 and sucking money from public to private, and have a serious look at the bailout requests by huge corporations before going nuts about football players, what good is that going to do apart from make a few holier-than-thou people feel better about themselves.
Knew you were a James O’Brien fan
Agree with the sentiment though.
The reason footballers get the attention is that they are obviously well known to the public. My thoughts are that if a club is considering furloughing non playing staff they should see if an agreed cut in players salaries (to cover the non playing staff monthly wage cost) could be agreed first.
I’d expect the same from other organisations ie extremely well paid bosses (earning millions a year) taking a 10-20% cut if it meant not having to use the furlough scheme or make redundancies
The wage structures/pyramids are quite unique in (top tier/premier league) football clubs so not sure it’s easy to replicate in other industries but I’d expect similar efforts
ps anyone know if Levy is taking a wage cut ?
It’s pretty simple really. Boris did say it as the video proves and the NHS has been a shambles long before this happened and he wouldn’t have got the full NHS treatment as per Joe Bloggs.I think the team of you & Tony definitely win this one on countout
Knew you were a James O’Brien fan
Agree with the sentiment though.
The reason footballers get the attention is that they are obviously well known to the public. My thoughts are that if a club is considering furloughing non playing staff they should see if an agreed cut in players salaries (to cover the non playing staff monthly wage cost) could be agreed first.
I’d expect the same from other organisations ie extremely well paid bosses (earning millions a year) taking a 10-20% cut if it meant not having to use the furlough scheme or make redundancies
The wage structures/pyramids are quite unique in (top tier/premier league) football clubs so not sure it’s easy to replicate in other industries but I’d expect similar efforts
ps anyone know if Levy is taking a wage cut ?
You just did !!I could say I have millions of tests but they don't work
I don't know who James O'Brien is but I'll take a look in a min
He’s having the same conversation on LBC (think you’d probably like him, not dissimilar views)
If only that were possible with the virus.Sometimes it’s better to keep things to yourself.
Knew you were a James O’Brien fan
Agree with the sentiment though.
The reason footballers get the attention is that they are obviously well known to the public. My thoughts are that if a club is considering furloughing non playing staff they should see if an agreed cut in players salaries (to cover the non playing staff monthly wage cost) could be agreed first.
I’d expect the same from other organisations ie extremely well paid bosses (earning millions a year) taking a 10-20% cut if it meant not having to use the furlough scheme or make redundancies
The wage structures/pyramids are quite unique in (top tier/premier league) football clubs so not sure it’s easy to replicate in other industries but I’d expect similar efforts
ps anyone know if Levy is taking a wage cut ?
Firstly, I cannot believe many of the premier league players are on a standard PAYE setup & I imagine most of them pay very little tax proportionally when compared to Joe Bloggs....
...its also intrinsically linked to the totally justified outrage at CUNTY clubs like Liverpool & Spurs who are getting the tax payer to pay the wage of the clubs toilet cleaners & hotdog sellers, yet happily shovel millions per week towards their "stars".....
I can't stand Corbyn.
But nice whataboutery.
It's grenners though innit, if he stunned his toe he would blame the eu
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It’s not just Tory fanboys, I’m a dye in the wool Red and I do understand the point you are tryingPrepare for a barrage of abuse from the Tory fanboys. Your points are all very valid though.
The govt just released "full details" of the furlough scheme so all around the country people would have been logging in... only to find that its the same info as was available last week. The application portal is still not up and running and thats where we will find out what the terms are. I know 100% that they were talking about the govt vetting applications and if it was completely obvious that a claimant could support wages without needing a grant, they might reject the claim- so its not beyond the realms of possibility that we see Spurs, Liverpool etc being told that there are more deserving cases for their support. But nobody knows. It certainly seems against the spirit of the scheme for cash rich entities to be asking for help when you have some companies literally on their knees. When you read that a company has " taken furlough support", thats false, nobody can claim yet because application portal is not live. They are placing employees on furlough and intend to claim back the difference, but no claims are being processed yet. Maybe these big companies have a nod & a wink, I don't know, but nobody has "claimed" yet because there currently is no way to claim, and thats where the risk is, you might claim then get denied and find yourself having a big bill to settle.
Good shout about the claims not being possible yet, sounds like it’s their intention though (maybe/hopefully some of the larger/wealthier clubs will have second thoughts about claiming)
I don’t think the scheme will be up and running until end of April
yepI stunned my toe?
At the very earliest because the application portal itself won't be live until then, then you have to do all the claim paperwork which will include proof that you need the funds (this is where your Spurs/ Liverpools etc may struggle)- so its unlikely any funds will be transferred for another month at least after that- and thats not a knock on the govt because thats quite some pile of admin to wade through. If you're planning to furlough you have to assume you'll get the funds no earlier than June (thats what I've done anyway)
Huh?And now we have Kier Starmer the man who let jimmy saville walk free ....
Should be some alarm bells ringing at my company if thats the case. We've been busier than ever and they've been happy to push that out on social media as a PR move.I know 100% that they were talking about the govt vetting applications and if it was completely obvious that a claimant could support wages without needing a grant, they might reject the claim
I thought everyone let Jimmy Saville walk free.And now we have Kier Starmer the man who let jimmy saville walk free ....
Huh?
He was untouchable back then. Loved by all, including royalty.He was in charge of the CPS when the first allegations made and dismissed it
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