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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,326
Sick Boy said:
After your strange claims about the Russian military enforcing lockdown in Italy and the Chinese community in Tuscany being responsible for the outbreak in Lombardia (250km away and actually a warped theory started by fascists here), it is hard to take you seriouisly.
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Are they lying? ROS claimed Johnson is. I’m sure they will be an enquiry in Italy eventually to see why the outbreak was so severe, Chinese migrants has been discussed as a possibility by many people hasn’t it?
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,327
Sick Boy said:
After your strange claims about the Russian military enforcing lockdown in Italy and the Chinese community in Tuscany being responsible for the outbreak in Lombardia (250km away and actually a warped theory started by fascists here), it is hard to take you seriouisly.
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I knew that if I said anything about Boris he'd appear within seconds and start firing irrelevant questions around- its lunchtime, can't get VPN to work so just wanted to see how many random deflection questions he could ask in the space of 5 mins, think its 5 so far and I see we're already moved onto his favourite- Chinese migrants and why other countries have got things so badly wrong
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,328
Ring Of Steel said:
I only know a couple directly but I know more indirectly over in the factory- minimum week and a half and thats if it really was mild. I know one who is still rough after 3 weeks and that was "mild".

Boris clearly did have symptoms otherwise he wouldn't have been tested, he wasn't asymptomatic (unless he was lying). So either he was totally asymptomatic and a test was done as a precaution & was positive (in which case there's a lie as we were told he had reported symptoms), or he is symptomatic and is a miracle of medical science, and can come out of hiding in 3 days when the rest of planet earth is told 14 days is the isolation period.

There is no shock or surprise here, just more inconsistencies & bullshit flying around.
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It's 7 days isn't it? Woman at work's husband is a copper, he has just had it and got over it in 3 days but has isolated for 8. Back to work tomorrow but no antibody test.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,329
CCFCSteve said:
It’s also known that numerous have been totally asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms

ps I know one person who’s 99% certain (according to NHS 111) she’s had/got it and cough still hasn’t gone away after a week, then again she hasn’t taken any medication
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Hey there Stevie Boy- you are indeed a 'rampant Tory' but you are also balanced and eloquent and you always make sense. Fair play to ya
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,330
skyblue1991 said:
What joke? 2m is the minimum distance you should be staying away from people, including Paul Chuckle.
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Wait- has the Chuckle Brother been tested positive or not?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,331
Ring Of Steel said:
I only know a couple directly but I know more indirectly over in the factory- minimum week and a half and thats if it really was mild. I know one who is still rough after 3 weeks and that was "mild".

Boris clearly did have symptoms otherwise he wouldn't have been tested, he wasn't asymptomatic (unless he was lying). So either he was totally asymptomatic and a test was done as a precaution & was positive (in which case there's a lie as we were told he had reported symptoms), or he is symptomatic and is a miracle of medical science, and can come out of hiding in 3 days when the rest of planet earth is told 14 days is the isolation period.

There is no shock or surprise here, just more inconsistencies & bullshit flying around.
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Beware 5g is coming Mr Tinfoil
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,332
Grendel said:
Beware 5g is coming Mr Tinfoil
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Not near me, I'll rip the mast down
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,333
fernandopartridge said:
It's 7 days isn't it? Woman at work's husband is a copper, he has just had it and got over it in 3 days but has isolated for 8. Back to work tomorrow but no antibody test.
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No its 14 days, albeit thats clearly not a 'law'. 14 days is the recommended quarantine period. I may be wrong but I think in USA the CDC have made that a pretty binding rule, as much as they have the power to.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,334
Ring Of Steel said:
Not near me, I'll rip the mast down
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What is it you think is so bad about 5g?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,335
Ring Of Steel said:
Wait- has the Chuckle Brother been tested positive or not?
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Coronavirus: Comedian Paul Chuckle reveals he has been suffering from COVID-19
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,336
Grendel said:
the majority do in that time or didn’t have any symptoms at all - I assume Prince Charles was a lie as well?
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It wasn’t as bad as normal flu then
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,337
Ring Of Steel said:
All I know is that if you really believe that Boris Johnson was tested positive & had symptoms, and yet has now miraculously recovered after 3 days then you came down with the last drop of rain. Utter bullshit.
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Struggling to believe a man who says he has a persistent cough and doesn’t even fake the black lung Derek Zoolander stylee. Plus it’s Boris who is a proven lire.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,338
Sick Boy said:
I'm surprised you haven't been recruited by the WHO to be honest.
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Has Roger Daltrey left, then?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,339
Houchens Head said:
Has Roger Daltrey left, then?
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They've needed a new rhythm section for a while
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,340
Grendel said:
To suggest Johnson made up he tested positive is Tin foil nonsense
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It’s not like he’s ever been sacked for lying. Oh wait...
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,341
Grendel said:
Are they lying? ROS claimed Johnson is. I’m sure they will be an enquiry in Italy eventually to see why the outbreak was so severe, Chinese migrants has been discussed as a possibility by many people hasn’t it?
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Your theory of the Tuscan Chinese community being responsible for the Lombardia outbreak (250-300km away) is shared by the far right.

It’s like blaming a community in Sheffield for being responsible for an outbreak in London.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,342
Grendel said:
That’s because they had worsening symptoms. Idris Elba got over it in two days was he lying? Arteta?
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Yeah but Idris is well ard.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,343
Sick Boy said:
Your theory of the Tuscan Chinese community (250-300km away) being responsible for the Lombardia outbreak is shared by the far right.
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There is a good reason for that.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,344
skybluetony176 said:
It’s not like he’s ever been sacked for lying. Oh wait...
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Looking at the man, his history, the way this government operates, all of the factors in fact- I do not believe him here. And thats that.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,345
Ring Of Steel said:
Looking at the man, his history, the way this government operates, all of the factors in fact- I do not believe him here. And thats that.
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Come on, a man who hides in a fridge during an election campaign is going to be a bastion of honesty.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,346
Ring Of Steel said:
I only know a couple directly but I know more indirectly over in the factory- minimum week and a half and thats if it really was mild. I know one who is still rough after 3 weeks and that was "mild".

Boris clearly did have symptoms otherwise he wouldn't have been tested, he wasn't asymptomatic (unless he was lying). So either he was totally asymptomatic and a test was done as a precaution & was positive (in which case there's a lie as we were told he had reported symptoms), or he is symptomatic and is a miracle of medical science, and can come out of hiding in 3 days when the rest of planet earth is told 14 days is the isolation period.

There is no shock or surprise here, just more inconsistencies & bullshit flying around.
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But as has been said it largely depends on how much of the virus you pick up on transmission, but then depends on individual factors like the strength of the immune system etc..

If it's only a very small amount then your body will notice it and start fighting it when it hasn't got that much of it to deal with, and also means it takes longer for the virus to replicate to a level that would overwhlem your immune system. Thus you end up with less of the virus in your system and making your symptoms milder and your recovery likely to be quicker.

If you get a massive dose (ie someone sneezes on you) then your body has a large amount to deal with very quickly and all that will replicate exponentally in your body making the job for your immune system much more difficult. As it struggles to cope it either goes into overdrive and causes damage or eventually is overwhelmed and gives up.

Think of it like the difference in infection rate of flu to coronavirus of 1.4 to 3 and the difference it makes in how many people are infected. It's the same principle of exponential growth, just going on inside your body. It's the principle behind active vaccines.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,347
Ring Of Steel said:
Looking at the man, his history, the way this government operates, all of the factors in fact- I do not believe him here. And thats that.
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He deserves all the cynicism that he gets. He’s earned it.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,348
I cannot get used to this "work from home" business. Getting nothing done at all
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,349
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But as has been said it largely depends on how much of the virus you pick up on transmission, but then depends on individual factors like the strength of the immune system etc..

If it's only a very small amount then your body will notice it and start fighting it when it hasn't got that much of it to deal with, and also means it takes longer for the virus to replicate to a level that would overwhlem your immune system. Thus you end up with less of the virus in your system and making your symptoms milder and your recovery likely to be quicker.

If you get a massive dose (ie someone sneezes on you) then your body has a large amount to deal with very quickly and all that will replicate exponentally in your body making the job for your immune system much more difficult. As it struggles to cope it either goes into overdrive and causes damage or eventually is overwhelmed and gives up.

Think of it like the difference in infection rate of flu to coronavirus of 1.4 to 3 and the difference it makes in how many people are infected. It's the same principle of exponential growth, just going on inside your body. It's the principle behind active vaccines.
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I know there are no positives in a situation like this, but I have found the 'science' behind it really interesting- how this thing works, the new discoveries being made, the way our bodies respond and even down to the 'spike proteins' on the virus itself. Incredible to think that humans have no defence to this and we just have to hope that our bodies 'figure out' a way to deal with it once it gets to the acute stage.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,350
AStonesThrow said:
Yeah she’s always trying to sell them to me too
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I often wondered how my wife always seemed to have a pound coin for the shopping trollies when we went to Lidl.
 
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AStonesThrow

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,351
Otis said:
I often wondered how my wife always seemed to have a pound coin for the shopping trollies when we went to Lidl.
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I just took it as an insult to my manhood when she kept mentioning Lidl
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,352
Skybluefaz said:
What is it you think is so bad about 5g?
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Im gonna guess “radiation”

 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,353
fernandopartridge said:
Do you think that people living in the ex soviet states are more amenable to this sort of control? Granted it is now a very long time ago and beyond the memory of a lot of people under 40.
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More used to it for sure. It's only 30 years since Communism went so many spent some of their lives under that type of regime.
also police maybe better behaved now than when i first was spending time in Eastern Europe but don't have the same restraint as UK police (or rather less oversight and certainly less media coverage for their actions). So enforcing things like lockdowns will be done more firmly!!
Again don't have this nonsense where people can rack up offences without doing time. They don't do slaps on the wrist or cautions.
But it's different cultures eg, Don't have unemployment benefit here as such - each mayor's office has them doing menial jobs for x hours per month before they get a "minimal" wage.
 

Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,354
Grendel said:
I expect a spending frenzy to be honest even if it’s on credit
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It will be. Most won't learn from this
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,355
fernandopartridge said:
It's 7 days isn't it? Woman at work's husband is a copper, he has just had it and got over it in 3 days but has isolated for 8. Back to work tomorrow but no antibody test.
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7 days if you live on your own, 14 days if someone else in the house.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,356
tisza said:
7 days if you live on your own, 14 days if someone else in the house.
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Madness considering WHO say you remain infectious for two weeks after symptoms stop.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,357
Coronavirus: Govt set to release 'contact tracking' app which detects nearby virus carriers
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,358
393 deaths in uk last 24 hours
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,359
I think the 393 includes a catch up from those who died outside of hospital previously not reported
Even so - if we are going to be around 25k deaths, and we are at the peak in around 2 weeks, that number will probably double by then
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2020
  • #10,360
cc84cov said:
393 deaths in uk last 24 hours
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Scary but not a surprise unfortunately, especially with lower numbers over the last couple of days. Just got to hope this doesn’t start to increase exponentially (day on day).
 
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