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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,276

And with Boris sending out his letter, it feels like the next week/2 are going to be really bad, let’s hope everyone stays in
 

Tommo1993

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,277
Coronavirus lockdown must last until June warns top advisor.

That sounds a lot closer to the mark than 2-3 weeks.
 
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Astute

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,278
SkyBlueDom26 said:

And with Boris sending out his letter, it feels like the next week/2 are going to be really bad, let’s hope everyone stays in
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I would guess the next month will be bad. Thousands walking around not knowing they are infected. They infect thousands more. They take it back to their families. And so it continues.

How are we supposed to stop the spread when we are getting so close on public transport?
 

Tommo1993

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,279
Was at a Nisa earlier and they’re asking for the 2m distance with customers. Impossible. Unless they allow a maximum of 3 people in at a time.
 

Astute

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,280
Tommo1993 said:
Coronavirus lockdown must last until June warns top advisor.

That sounds a lot closer to the mark than 2-3 weeks.
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June?

We would need to make major changes if it was to be as early as June.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,281
Astute said:
June?

We would need to make major changes if it was to be as early as June.
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Think they need to add the words ‘at least’ to it.
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,282
Tommo1993 said:
Coronavirus lockdown must last until June warns top advisor.

That sounds a lot closer to the mark than 2-3 weeks.
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Yeah thats more like it.

If it helps combat this awful virus and keep the UK death tool to under 20,000 then I am prepared to stay indoors for another 2.5 months
 
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Astute

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,283
skyblue1991 said:
Yeah thats more like it.

If it helps combat this awful virus and keep the UK death tool to under 20,000 then I am prepared to stay indoors for another 2.5 months
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June?

NHS doctor reveals how she's being forced to play God as coronavirus patients overwhelm wards | Daily Mail Online
 
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Magwitch

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,284
Ring Of Steel said:
Not easy locking down 1.3 billion people

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Frightening, there are hundreds of British in India looking to get back home but on return will they be tested or isolated immediately and if there is a plane load how are they going to keep two metres apart.
 
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hill83

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,285
Astute said:
June?

NHS doctor reveals how she's being forced to play God as coronavirus patients overwhelm wards | Daily Mail Online
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Fucking hell. I did not need to read that right now.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,286
Magwitch said:
Frightening, there are hundreds of British in India looking to get back home but on return will they be tested or isolated immediately and if there is a plane load how are they going to keep two metres apart.
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So far this week we've had over 20 flights into the UK from New York [which is particularly bad] & flights continuing from Spain, Italy & China.
There has been no testing at airports and passengers have been given advice to self isolate.
The Home Secretary has pushed to stop those flights but the Prime Minister & Dominic Raab have over ruled her! So don't expect any testing this week.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,287
Tommo1993 said:
Coronavirus lockdown must last until June warns top advisor.

That sounds a lot closer to the mark than 2-3 weeks.
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Chinese markets have re opened so get used to living like this - there will be more and more pandemics
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,288
Grendel said:
Chinese markets have re opened so get used to living like this - there will be more and more pandemics
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You have got to be fucking joking, they have reopened them animal markets mate??? Fuck sake
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,289
Astute said:
June?

NHS doctor reveals how she's being forced to play God as coronavirus patients overwhelm wards | Daily Mail Online
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That’s harrowing.


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djr8369

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,290
Grendel said:
Chinese markets have re opened so get used to living like this - there will be more and more pandemics
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You’re right there will be. As predicted in this paper from 2007.


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Magwitch

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,291
[QUOTE="
The Home Secretary has pushed to stop those flights but the Prime Minister & Dominic Raab have over ruled her! So don't expect any testing this week.[/QUOTE]

Christ one’s sick the others thick.
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,292
Ring Of Steel said:
Not easy locking down 1.3 billion people

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Thats going to be really tough. The real heartbreaking thing is also those shanty towns and temporary camps in countries where refugees are living a hair's breath from each other. A few reports on the news highlight the conditions they are in with food pretty basic without al this. They've got no fucking chance. I donate every month to a few charities, but what difference it will make once this gets hold god only knows.
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,293
SkyBlueDom26 said:

And with Boris sending out his letter, it feels like the next week/2 are going to be really bad, let’s hope everyone stays in
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Taking heart in people finally waking up. Hindsight is a great thing and maybe if the Gov had been stricter from the start they wouldn't need to be gearing up so much for a flood of deaths.

If you HAVE to go outside, keep clean and keep your distance.
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,294
SkyBlueDom26 said:
You have got to be fucking joking, they have reopened them animal markets mate??? Fuck sake
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Whilst the cause is still unproven and UK media hyped it up, I do hope our 'beloved' government work with China to tackle this long term? ...... but it's not straightfoward as deeply ingrained in local cultures, diets, beliefs and economics. Simply shouting shut the Chinese street markets is naive and smacks of classic Tory arrogance at simplifying highly complex issues in a reactive manner based on hindsight. Boris has not planned properly and is backpedaling big style. Need to get our own act in order with flights and ferries still coming in.... still let's blame the Chinese markets !!! FFS.
 
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TewkesburySkyBlue

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,295
pipkin73 said:
2 weeks for me today, i'm finding the isolation ok(ish) but the mental side is doing my head in.
When on the phone to people i find myself not finding the words to say what i want even though i know what i want to say (it's like my brain is just shutting down), put a film on and my mind is else where after 10 mins and the next thing i know the film is 40 mins in.
Got at least another 2 weeks of this (can't even chat to neighbours over the balcony as they went back to England before the flights were cancelled). I think it's the silence more than anything what with being on my own now.
Don't help with my sister having it and now one of my best friends seems to have it.
AAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
Stay safe everyone and STAY THE FUCK IN!!!
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Keep safe Pipkin you’ll get through this just think of the city playing in the Chanpionship next season PUSB .
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,296
SkyBlueDom26 said:

And with Boris sending out his letter, it feels like the next week/2 are going to be really bad, let’s hope everyone stays in
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yes that’s all very well and good, but what is the endgame? How is the virus actually brought under control so that life can approach some kind of normality, or does lockdown continue to the day a vaccine has been administered to 7 billion people?

I know from speaking to family and friends that one of the things that’s freaking people out the most is “when the fuck is this going to end?”

As well as sending out 30 million letters telling everyone that their lives are over for a few months but that ‘we will overcome’ etc, we should be telling people HOW we are going to beat it. That way people understand why we’re doing it, because at the moment it just feels like the message is “hide under your beds until it goes away”, with no real idea as to what happens then.

I’m sure there is a plan, but why not give everyone a boost by telling them a little bit about what it is, so that when it gets to ‘day 63’ or whatever of not being able to live properly, they know how it all fits in- people will crack up and sooner or later will just think fuck it, and go out whatever the consequences.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,297
SkyBlueDom26 said:
You have got to be fucking joking, they have reopened them animal markets mate??? Fuck sake
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Disgusting.. and anyone who defends this as 'part of their culture' needs a slap. Was hoping that the one good thing to come from this would be these horror shows get closed down.

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TewkesburySkyBlue

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,298
hill83 said:
Fucking hell. I did not need to read that right now.
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Remember it is the Daily Mail for God sake that rag and truth is an oxymoron
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,299
Astute said:
June?

NHS doctor reveals how she's being forced to play God as coronavirus patients overwhelm wards | Daily Mail Online
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its horrendous. But I also find it massively unlikely that someone dealing with that situation has time to prepare a well written & lucid article. And the ending is pure Hollywood- I do not doubt what’s happening, but I also call bullshit that a health worker wrote that.
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,300
Ring Of Steel said:
yes that’s all very well and good, but what is the endgame? How is the virus actually brought under control so that life can approach some kind of normality, or does lockdown continue to the day a vaccine has been administered to 7 billion people?

I know from speaking to family and friends that one of the things that’s freaking people out the most is “when the fuck is this going to end?”

As well as sending out 30 million letters telling everyone that their lives are over for a few months but that ‘we will overcome’ etc, we should be telling people HOW we are going to beat it. That way people understand why we’re doing it, because at the moment it just feels like the message is “hide under your beds until it goes away”, with no real idea as to what happens then.

I’m sure there is a plan, but why not give everyone a boost by telling them a little bit about what it is, so that when it gets to ‘day 63’ or whatever of not being able to live properly, they know how it all fits in- people will crack up and sooner or later will just think fuck it, and go out whatever the consequences.
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This is why the government comms strategy is so frustrating and condescending. Every time a journalist ask them a question they duck it or say something “well of course we can’t predict exactly what will happen but the situation will change over the coming weeks”. Well no shit.

Several days in a row journalists have asked when they think the peak might be so people know what they’re in for and can steel themselves yet have optimism there’s a worst bit to get through and then things might slowly improve but instead we’re spoken to like fucking children.

It might make more sense if we didnt all have access to the internet and were getting half the information to build the picture from there.


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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,301
Ring Of Steel said:
its horrendous. But I also find it massively unlikely that someone dealing with that situation has time to prepare a well written & lucid article. And the ending is pure Hollywood- I do not doubt what’s happening, but I also call bullshit that a health worker wrote that.
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meanwhile you have Michael Gove on TV saying he’s been ‘assured by senior figures in the NHS’ that they’re happy with how supplies will be ramped up, and there was never any need to join forces with the EU to procure more equipment.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,302
djr8369 said:
This is why the government comms strategy is so frustrating and condescending. Every time a journalist ask them a question they duck it or say something “well of course we can’t predict exactly what will happen but the situation will change over the coming weeks”. Well no shit.

Several days in a row journalists have asked when they think the peak might be so people know what they’re in for and can steel themselves yet have optimism there’s a worst bit to get through and then things might slowly improve but instead we’re spoken to like fucking children.

It might make more sense if we didnt all have access to the internet and were getting half the information to build the picture from there.


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Definitely. And if this carries on with no real picture on what’s going to happen, the army really will be needed because people will have had enough and/or lose their marbles and just head onto the streets. We’re not fighting the Germans any more, we don’t need to keep secrets.
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,303
Ring Of Steel said:
meanwhile you have Michael Gove on TV saying he’s been ‘assured by senior figures in the NHS’ that they’re happy with how supplies will be ramped up, and there was never any need to join forces with the EU to procure more equipment.
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And yet there are daily warnings from NHS staff that they don’t have the right equipment.


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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,304
TomRad85 said:
Disgusting.. and anyone who defends this as 'part of their culture' needs a slap. Was hoping that the one good thing to come from this would be these horror shows get closed down.

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Look at this, so fucking upsetting
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,305
SkyBlueDom26 said:
You have got to be fucking joking, they have reopened them animal markets mate??? Fuck sake
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I’m sickened that they have no real humane way of butchering any animal. We do it poorly in this country but
SkyBlueDom26 said:

Look at this, so fucking upsetting
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I cannot look. It as terrible.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,306
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
Whilst the cause is still unproven and UK media hyped it up, I do hope our 'beloved' government work with China to tackle this long term? ...... but it's not straightfoward as deeply ingrained in local cultures, diets, beliefs and economics. Simply shouting shut the Chinese street markets is naive and smacks of classic Tory arrogance at simplifying highly complex issues in a reactive manner based on hindsight. Boris has not planned properly and is backpedaling big style. Need to get our own act in order with flights and ferries still coming in.... still let's blame the Chinese markets !!! FFS.
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Not to forget that the U.K. has its own share of zoonotic viruses, illnesses and disease. TB being the big one over the last few years in cattle. How do we know that this won’t mutate and trigger events close too what’s happening now. Mad cow disease, I read an article not that long ago that predicts a second wave of cases. To do with a certain type of inherited gene, there is two types of this particular gene and you either inherit one of these genes from each parent. One of these genes is immune to CJD the other isn’t and it’s people who inherited two of the latter gene who were susceptible to CJD straight away but they’re now finding that people who inherited one of both genes are suffering a delayed effect of CJD so a second wave of victims is now expected. Salmonella, it’s a bacteria in the gut of a lot of animals in the food chain. Let’s not forget that it’s only a couple of years since the advice for pregnant women and elderly to only eat fully cooked eggs was relaxed. As long as humans are involved in the production and consumption of animals and animal byproducts there’s a risk of something like this happening and happening anywhere again. We all need to take a look at our behaviour to stop something happening again, it’s not just a Chinese problem.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,307
SkyBlueDom26 said:

Look at this, so fucking upsetting
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Its absolutely disgusting and people need to start having very uncomfortable discussions, immediately.

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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,308
Flying Fokker said:
I’m sickened that they have no real humane way of butchering any animal. We do it poorly in this country but

I cannot look. It as terrible.
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There is no humane way of butchering any animal.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,309
TomRad85 said:
Its absolutely disgusting and people need to start having very uncomfortable discussions, immediately.

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As far as I’m concerned eating any animal is barbaric, and if you’ve got yourself convinced there is a “humane” way to kill something, I’m telling you now there is zero fucking way to do it humanely.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 29, 2020
  • #9,310
Realistically what are you going to do with China? They’re massive, run key infrastructure for us, have by far the biggest population and we rely on them for trade in almost everything.

We should be pressuring them on this, but they’ll point to their bullshit numbers and say they handled it better than us. If we can’t stop them setting up concentration camps we aren’t likely to persuade them to be nice to animals.
 
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