Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (22 Viewers)

chiefdave · Mar 23, 2020

David O'Day said:
But surely if 100s of thousands die that hurts him

Depends who those people were going to vote for. There have been some claims, although we may well be in tin foil hat territory, that Republican and swing states are receiving a much greater percentage of requested emergency medical supplies than democrat states.

Not sure I believe that, frankly I don't think he's clever enough for that.

Think its more a case of him being his usual self and bluffing his way through it saying what he thinks people want to hear and will make him popular. Not sure he can keep bluffing until the November election.

pipkin73 · Mar 23, 2020

Otis said:
Just thinking about the likes of Asda and Tesco and their larger stores they have

If all clothes and electrical shops and the likes of Primark, John Lewis and Debenhams are closed, isn't that just going to get people going to Asda and Tesco for clothing and electrical goods as well as for food?

Couldn't our supermarkets get even busier now if there are no delivery slots available for three weeks and there are no competitors for their non-food stuff?

Over here shops that sell more than just food i.e. clothes, kitchen appliances etc have to close all areas off apart from food ones. Not allowed to sell anything other than food and if caught they will be closed down and heavily fined.

David O'Day · Mar 23, 2020

chiefdave said:
Depends who those people were going to vote for. There have been some claims, although we may well be in tin foil hat territory, that Republican and swing states are receiving a much greater percentage of requested emergency medical supplies than democrat states.

Not sure I believe that, frankly I don't think he's clever enough for that.

Think its more a case of him being his usual self and bluffing his way through it saying what he thinks people want to hear and will make him popular. Not sure he can keep bluffing until the November election.

It's the swing voters he needs though so it makes no sense for him to put the markets over human lives

wingy · Mar 23, 2020

David O'Day said:
But surely the average voter would be more swayed by people not dying

Yeah you'd expect so

I was thinking more short term ,trying to restore some confidence so he can Paint the numbers when the time comes.
There'll probably be enough in that country who will buy that this was all a socialist plot.

chiefdave · Mar 23, 2020

hill83 said:
I mean. I work in the pharmaceutical industry (in IT) and I’ve been classed as a key worker, but work is work. And arguably no job is pointless. I couldn’t give a shit what industry I work in.

I'm in IT as well and it seems very vague. Our clients include healthcare providers and food manufacturers which would be classed as essential. But does it really then follow that the whole company is required. How essential is it to have sales in for example?

Fortunately I can work entirely from home as we've been told there will be no site visits unless absolutely essential but if my employer had a different mindset they could quite easily be calling everyone into the office and sending people to site.

Think there needs to be the threat of big fines for companies taking the piss.

Liquid Gold · Mar 23, 2020

So what if Trump loses, you end up with Biden who has much the same policies but hides his racism more professionally.

wingy · Mar 23, 2020

My SIL is being made to go in
All they do is import from China

I just don't understand his employers, it's all done over the net and he's either naive or afraid , whilst being type 1 diabetic
God it makes me angry.

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 23, 2020

Pretty much 10000 new cases in US. The numbers will be huge. 5 times more people than Italy

wingy · Mar 23, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
Pretty much 10000 new cases in US. The numbers will be huge. 5 times more people than Italy

The stand off in Congress is astounding

rob9872 · Mar 23, 2020

pipkin73 said:
Over here shops that sell more than just food i.e. clothes, kitchen appliances etc have to close all areas off apart from food ones. Not allowed to sell anything other than food and if caught they will be closed down and heavily fined.

If your washing machine breaks or kettle or being stuck in with no tele would be hell.

PVA · Mar 23, 2020

rob9872 said:
I'm not sure if we're key or not as we supply supermarkets wity back of house stuff, but if we are, is our supply chain of metalworkers etc also key as we can't supply without them and where does it end as they'll require their suppliers etc

There is no mention of 'key' workers, the only stipulation is whether your job can be done from home.

If it can, then work from home. If it can't, then you are free to travel to work (assuming your bosses have kept it open, of course).

Nick · Mar 23, 2020

Are Amazon still delivering?

rob9872 · Mar 23, 2020

PVA said:
There is no mention of 'key' workers, the only stipulation is whether your job can be done from home.

If it can, then work from home. If it can't, then you are free to travel to work.

Oh yeah realise that ta and mine can be at home, but just not sure if and when that changes which side of the line our business and supply chain falls. Very much a choice still atm.

shmmeee · Mar 23, 2020

Nick said:
Are Amazon still delivering?

Think so. In Spain and France I think they’ve stopped “non-essential” deliveries. Whatever that means.

Edit: sorry France and Italy: Engadget is now a part of Verizon Media

Nick · Mar 23, 2020

shmmeee said:
Think so. In Spain and France I think they’ve stopped “non-essential” deliveries. Whatever that means.

Does a Fleshlight count?

Asking for a friend.

Nick · Mar 23, 2020

chiefdave said:
I'm in IT as well and it seems very vague. Our clients include healthcare providers and food manufacturers which would be classed as essential. But does it really then follow that the whole company is required. How essential is it to have sales in for example?

Fortunately I can work entirely from home as we've been told there will be no site visits unless absolutely essential but if my employer had a different mindset they could quite easily be calling everyone into the office and sending people to site.

Think there needs to be the threat of big fines for companies taking the piss.

Yep, we do IT for a few companies like that and monitor their networks etc so have to be 24/7.

We are cutting down to 1 person on site in case there's a hardware issue and then the rest from home. I get 4 x 12 hour shifts at the weekend.

pipkin73 · Mar 23, 2020

rob9872 said:
If your washing machine breaks or kettle or being stuck in with no tele would be hell.

They have allowed a couple of places to open for this reason (about 4 on the island) but you have to show a purchase receipt if stopped to prove purchase of item.

Ring Of Steel · Mar 23, 2020

PVA said:
Someone in the US has died after taking that drug to try and cure their Covid infection.

Really?

Wyken Sky Blue · Mar 23, 2020

Nick said:
Does a Fleshlight count?

Asking for a friend.

I hope so, my friend has one on order...

Sent from my I3113 using Tapatalk

Ring Of Steel · Mar 23, 2020

wingy said:
The stand off in Congress is astounding

When a man is witnessing huge swathes of his people being struck down and dying, and seems indifferent & only focusing on money & his own standing, you have to get close to assuming he is genuinely a psychopath.

fernandopartridge · Mar 24, 2020

The coventrian said:
Edit,its all gone off here and needless to say we've walked out.

And they said Corbyn would take us back to the 70s

fatso · Mar 24, 2020

Nick said:
Does a Fleshlight count?

Asking for a friend.

If it stops “your friend” from reproducing, Then yes.

fernandopartridge · Mar 24, 2020

David O'Day said:
Them and folk on zero hours contracts need to be helped

Due to time constraints nothing other than UBI would work maybe with London weighting.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 24, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 24, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
When a man is witnessing huge swathes of his people being struck down and dying, and seems indifferent & only focusing on money & his own standing, you have to get close to assuming he is genuinely a psychopath.

He is a useful idiot. Those around him are the psychos.

shmmeee · Mar 24, 2020

Fuck me. Missus has just seen a warning posted in an NHS FB group that people are being mugged for their NHS badges. Hope it’s FB bollocks, but nothing would surprise me.

Ring Of Steel said:
Really?

Yep guy died and wife hospitalised. Took aquarium cleaner or something, same drug Trumps been on about.

fernandopartridge · Mar 24, 2020

shmmeee said:
Yep guy died and wife hospitalised. Took aquarium cleaner or something, same drug Trumps been on about.

I know i shouldn't, but at least when he died his piss was really clear.

Ring Of Steel · Mar 24, 2020

shmmeee said:
Fuck me. Missus has just seen a warning posted in an NHS FB group that people are being mugged for their NHS badges. Hope it’s FB bollocks, but nothing would surprise me.

Yep guy died and wife hospitalised. Took aquarium cleaner or something, same drug Trumps been on about.

I know for a 100% fact that there were gangs of kids spitting on people in London “for the crack”, a few got arrested and the coppers took the batons to them.

Ring Of Steel · Mar 24, 2020

Trying to help my folks out and it appears to be completely impossible to get groceries delivered to the LE9 postcode, although Asda seems to have crashed altogether. Not sure what to do, I have sent calpol, sanitiser and paracetamol over already but not sure a load of milk and beef would make it through

shmmeee · Mar 24, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
Trying to help my folks out and it appears to be completely impossible to get groceries delivered to the LE9 postcode, although Asda seems to have crashed altogether. Not sure what to do, I have sent calpol, sanitiser and paracetamol over already but not sure a load of milk and beef would make it through

Everything's booked up from farm shops and veg boxes to Amazon Prime, Tesco to Milk and More that I can see. Have you looked on her local FB group? There might be someone who can drop some shopping round if you can get cash to them or click and collect. I know there’s loads of semi official groups popping up that seem trustworthy.

wingy · Mar 24, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
Trying to help my folks out and it appears to be completely impossible to get groceries delivered to the LE9 postcode, although Asda seems to have crashed altogether. Not sure what to do, I have sent calpol, sanitiser and paracetamol over already but not sure a load of milk and beef would make it through

Morrison's were on about running a phone in service .
They were putting together boxes of basics as well
I don't know if they're connected or click collect only .
That seems to be the case at Sainsbury's ,my brother has done that twice now on a Sunday over at King's Norton ,gives them a weeks notice and gets most of what he asks for .
Do Uber operate anything?

Ring Of Steel · Mar 24, 2020

shmmeee said:
Everything's booked up from farm shops and veg boxes to Amazon Prime, Tesco to Milk and More that I can see. Have you looked on her local FB group? There might be someone who can drop some shopping round if you can get cash to them or click and collect. I know there’s loads of semi official groups popping up that seem trustworthy.

there is one single Iceland slot to the MK postcode on Friday, that’s where I work half the time, so current backup plan is to get it all sent there then freighted up to them.. thank you though for the FB advice as that looks better- I checked and there are indeed 3 groups which I’ve tipped her off about, as some kind folks are offering a service to go pick up shopping for those who are locked in/ vulnerable groups etc. Much appreciated.

Ring Of Steel · Mar 24, 2020

wingy said:
Morrison's were on about running a phone in service .
They were putting together boxes of basics as well
I don't know if they're connected or click collect only .
That seems to be the case at Sainsbury's ,my brother has done that twice now on a Sunday over at King's Norton ,gives them a weeks notice and gets most of what he asks for .
Do Uber operate anything?

Morrison’s were completely down when I looked but I don’t know if that was demand- I guess so though. Looks like Facebook groups might be the immediate solution (which is a nice change as usually I find FB to be full of psychos ), and I will try Morrison’s soon as they are up- thank you for that, I appreciate it. Sainsburys aren’t taking new registrations at this point, I guess they’re freaking under the demand.

not looking forward to when this all inevitably hits over here...

wingy · Mar 24, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
Morrison’s were completely down when I looked but I don’t know if that was demand- I guess so though. Looks like Facebook groups might be the immediate solution (which is a nice change as usually I did FB to be full of psychos ), and I will try Morrison’s soon as they are up- thank you for that, I appreciate it. Sainsburys aren’t taking new registrations at this point, I guess they’re freaking under the demand.

not looking forward to when this all inevitably hits over here...

Coronavirus: Morrisons ramps up delivery service to cope with demand

Liquid Gold · Mar 24, 2020

Brighton Sky Blue said:

I thought this had been debunked already and is about a year old and the woman is having lung problems from smoking.

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