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baldy

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  • Nov 19, 2021
  • #53,236
Ian1779 said:
It’s only grifters and snowflakes that say dumb shit like this.
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Ermmmm I don’t think you get what a snowflake is
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2021
  • #53,237
Philosorapter said:
The vaccine passport is in full swing in Scotland.

Which reminds me.
I need to download the new one to my phone.
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Cases still rising in scotland and wales though where there is restrictions.
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2021
  • #53,238
Kieranp96 said:
Cases still rising in scotland and wales though where there is restrictions.
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The restriction though are minimum. Where I am living, we were in Stage 3,4 lockdown for over a year. Not many people now complaining of not getting around anymore. Even the 'send beer' posters have been coming down from windows.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2021
  • #53,239
baldy said:
Ermmmm I don’t think you get what a snowflake is
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This conversation reminds of that twist in the Sixth Sense just before the end.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2021
  • #53,240
skyblue1991 said:
You've got to say now that we're starting to see other European countries go into lockdown (Austria won't be the last) that the UK has got it right and learned from mistakes

We used the summer knowing any virus mortality rate is at its lowest to get the over 40s and vunerable double jabbed, most over 20s single jabbed and breed heard immunity

I will be surprised if we go into lockdown ever again. We may see face coverings still over the winter but I'd take that any day than what we had last year

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I hope and think (maybe ) you’re right. There is no doubt the decision was made to allow higher transmission over the summer to try to avoid a massive winter peak when the nhs will naturally be more stretched. A lot of the wider world were saying it was a crazy but I always felt it seemed logical...although I’m obviously not a virologist !

The key to the success of the decision will be the boosters being delivered quickly enough to best protect those at high risk who have waning immunity. Booster figures look relatively low at 25% but that’s over 12s so hopefully a larger proportion of those of higher risk have been jabbed again

It’s all about hospitalisations and deaths now, not case numbers. Inpatients will go up to some extent with case numbers but the vaccine has been doing it’s job so far as there have been approx 6-7k inpatients (in England) consistently for the past few weeks compared to 32k at peak.

Lockdowns will only suppress the transmission of the virus for a period so should only really be brought in if you are delaying transmission for a reason ie get more vaccines/boosters delivered or health service is at risk of being overwhelmed...otherwise it’s kind of just delaying the inevitable ie the spread. Hopefully we can avoid !

Ps I would mandate masks on public transport (especially the tube) and be suggesting any high risk WFH if transmission remains high over winter though

Rambling over
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2021
  • #53,241
Sky Blue Pete said:
You overdrawn? And I’m sure that’s correct. Kids tend to have parents and grandparents thoigh
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And teachers!
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2021
  • #53,242
Kieranp96 said:
I think your definition of a "snowflake" is diffrent to the rest of the world.
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I think your definition of the rest of the world is different from the rest of the world.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 19, 2021
  • #53,243
SBT said:
Loads of European countries already have mandatory vaccines for all kinds of diseases. It'll probably be the same with COVID in a few years, if not months. Given how safe and effective this vaccine appears to be, I've no problem with that.

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Weirdly this has never been an issue before for some posters.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 19, 2021
  • #53,244
CCFCSteve said:
I hope and think (maybe ) you’re right. There is no doubt the decision was made to allow higher transmission over the summer to try to avoid a massive winter peak when the nhs will naturally be more stretched. A lot of the wider world were saying it was a crazy but I always felt it seemed logical...although I’m obviously not a virologist !

The key to the success of the decision will be the boosters being delivered quickly enough to best protect those at high risk who have waning immunity. Booster figures look relatively low at 25% but that’s over 12s so hopefully a larger proportion of those of higher risk have been jabbed again

It’s all about hospitalisations and deaths now, not case numbers. Inpatients will go up to some extent with case numbers but the vaccine has been doing it’s job so far as there have been approx 6-7k inpatients (in England) consistently for the past few weeks compared to 32k at peak.

Lockdowns will only suppress the transmission of the virus for a period so should only really be brought in if you are delaying transmission for a reason ie get more vaccines/boosters delivered or health service is at risk of being overwhelmed...otherwise it’s kind of just delaying the inevitable ie the spread. Hopefully we can avoid !

Ps I would mandate masks on public transport (especially the tube) and be suggesting any high risk WFH if transmission remains high over winter though

Rambling over
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Last month I was on busy trains and tubes in the England and I’d say at best 5% were wearing masks on the trains and 10% on the tube. It’s madness that in carriages with zero ventilation people don’t bother.
 
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baldy

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,245
Sick Boy said:
Last month I was on busy trains and tubes in the England and I’d say at best 5% were wearing masks on the trains and 10% on the tube. It’s madness that in carriages with zero ventilation people don’t bother.
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Why worry about everybody else & what they do or don’t do?
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,246
baldy said:
Why worry about everybody else & what they do or don’t do?
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Because they are potentially spreading an infectious disease that is killing other people. It's not difficult to understand. Do keep up.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,247

Vaccines work.
 
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baldy

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,248
Deleted member 9744 said:
Because they are potentially spreading an infectious disease that is killing other people. It's not difficult to understand. Do keep up.
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You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,249
baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?
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Well, there are seatbelts to provide protection...
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,250
baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?
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No, but as a society we legislate for idiotic driving with a raft of laws and requirements to protect people and minimise danger.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,251
baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?
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That’s why we have things such as speed limits, seatbelt laws, MOT laws, a competency to drive test, insurance laws, road tax, build standards in cars in case of a crash etc etc.

You can’t just buy a car, cover it in objects designed to hurt and kill and drive around with no rules. This isn’t death race 2000.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,252
Jabbed Moderna.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,253
baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?
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tbf, I use my lights, indicators, keep to speed limits, wear seat belts... don't pull out in front of other cars or drive into cyclists, however much I might want to. I take various steps to protect myself, my family, and other people, yes.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,254
wingy said:
Jabbed Moderna.
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Does that make you a hipster, going different?
 
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TomRad85

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,255
baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?
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I do, I'm a horrendous driver and London is full of lunatic drivers.

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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,256
Deleted member 5849 said:
Does that make you a hipster, going different?
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I thought it was a Star Wars character.
 

LastGarrison

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,257
wingy said:
Jabbed Moderna.
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Mate of mine works at the vaccination centre at Stonleigh and as of next week, I think he said, all boosters given there will be Moderna and not Pfizer.
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,258
baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?
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Enough to wear a seatbelt
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,259
Deleted member 9744 said:
Enough to wear a seatbelt
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And comply with the law
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,260
LastGarrison said:
Mate of mine works at the vaccination centre at Stonleigh and as of next week, I think he said, all boosters given there will be Moderna and not Pfizer.
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Didn't realise that one was still functioning.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,261
Had a reminder today that this isn't over. Mate of mine has ended up in hospital, thankfully looks like he Is on the mend after a couple of scary days.

He's in his 50s, fit & healthy, double vaxxed and had covid once already back before vaccines were available. Looks like he picked it up at work and thankfully looks a combination of his employer and insurance will cover it as he's working in the US at the moment and already has a 10 days quarantine in NY to pay for after testing positive and the call out fee alone for the doctor was $5K.
 
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Macca

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,262
The booster jab truly sucked balls but if it keeps me out of mischief for the winter happy days
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,263
baldy said:
You‘re potentially going to crash everytime you get in a car…do you worry about that?
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Was that you that flashed through a red at the junction of binley road and Allard way yesterday just missing me and a car turning right.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,264
Yep wife for me feeling rough too
chiefdave said:
Had a reminder today that this isn't over. Mate of mine has ended up in hospital, thankfully looks like he Is on the mend after a couple of scary days.

He's in his 50s, fit & healthy, double vaxxed and had covid once already back before vaccines were available. Looks like he picked it up at work and thankfully looks a combination of his employer and insurance will cover it as he's working in the US at the moment and already has a 10 days quarantine in NY to pay for after testing positive and the call out fee alone for the doctor was $5K.
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Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 20, 2021
  • #53,265
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep wife for me feeling rough too
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Loads of it about, my wife has a virus but the lft's have been negative so far, just sent a pcr back in the post, woman 2 doors down has covid and friend of the family lost his wife to it last week.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 21, 2021
  • #53,266
I'm reading mask wearing reduces spread of new case's by 53% .
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 21, 2021
  • #53,267
wingy said:
I'm reading mask wearing reduces spread of new case's by 53% .
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That can't be right, the experts on here said they don't do anything.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 21, 2021
  • #53,268
wingy said:
I'm reading mask wearing reduces spread of new case's by 53% .
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In what context? It sounds like nonsense to me
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 21, 2021
  • #53,269
fernandopartridge said:
In what context? It sounds like nonsense to me
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Express article.
Based on several studies.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 21, 2021
  • #53,270
fernandopartridge said:
In what context? It sounds like nonsense to me
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There is an article in the press but it must be nonsense
 
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