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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,661
shmmeee said:
I can’t decide if it’s idiots all the way down or there’s people who know better but spread bullshit for cash/political gain. If it’s the former I have some sympathy, the latter can get fucked though.
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Difficult to know either way. But if they are true it’s hardly surprising. Pandemic going on and that.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,662
hill83 said:
It’s still a shame though. There’s was one where all 6 members of the family died.
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I don't think it is a shame with her tbf, as she's an appalling c**t:





 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,663
This is tragic though. So avoidable.

That poor bloke.

Mum, 55, and daughter, 32, both die of Covid after refusing to get the jab

'They were very, very close. They worked together, they lived together and they died together.'
metro.co.uk
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,664
Deleted member 5849 said:
So.. face coverings in a crowded area among strangers help reduce the spread... but not mandated. That reassures for train journeys, eh.

And what the hell is the rest of the bollocks he's spouting?!?
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I didn’t realise covid didn’t spread amongst people who see each other often.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,665
PVA said:
I don't think it is a shame with her tbf, as she's an appalling c**t:





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What a vile c**t.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,666
I don't like the thought of anybody dying horribly, personally. Even if they're a shit, they'll have family who'll be affected.
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,667
PVA said:
I don't think it is a shame with her tbf, as she's an appalling c**t:





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Is that genuine? I just can't believe anyone could be so callous. Absolutely disgusting if true
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,668
Deleted member 9744 said:
Is that genuine? I just can't believe anyone could be so callous. Absolutely disgusting if true
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Yes it's genuine unfortunately.

She's an extreme right wing nutter who had support from Trump.
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,669
So vaccine passports will have to be shown for anyone attending our away games at Swansea and Cardiff then?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,670
Expecting outrage at the new travel rules as well.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,671
Laura Zoomer Loomer, too batshit for even the most rabid of alt right melts
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 17, 2021
  • #51,672
Laura Zoomer protest none building of a wall by showing how easy the are to jump over

Far-Right Conspiracy Theorist Tries to Break into Nancy Pelosi's Napa Home - SF Weekly

An il-loom-inating look into the mentality of someone desperate to get back her 260,000 followers and all the attention they so easily bring.
www.sfweekly.com
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 18, 2021
  • #51,673
Bello said:
I know right from wrong
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Clearly not...

False info is pretty destructive, and dangerous in this case.

'Depopulation agenda?' If that was the case you'd just let Covid run!

Anyway if you don't want a reaction about conspiracies, why post one?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2021
  • #51,674
Bello said:
I'm just asking you to watch the video, that's all mate.
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Take your creepy cult shit elsewhere.

And then take a critical thinking course.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2021
  • #51,675
shmmeee said:
Take your creepy cult shit elsewhere.

And then take a critical thinking course.
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No he’s entitled to his crappy, ill informed, dangerous, thick opinion
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 18, 2021
  • #51,676
O'Looney by name...
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2021
  • #51,677
Sky Blue Pete said:
No he’s entitled to his crappy, ill informed, dangerous, thick opinion
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And I’m entitled to think he’s a sheep who couldn’t think his way out of a paper bag because he parrots literally any old bollocks he sees that goes against the mainstream.

Got to love a liberal democracy.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2021
  • #51,678
Deleted member 5849 said:
O'Looney by name...
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I missed that
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2021
  • #51,679
“Just giving their opinion”

 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 18, 2021
  • #51,680
shmmeee said:
“Just giving their opinion”

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Fucking hell.
I think that despite the bravado the anti-vaxx lot are unable to accept the reality of the situation and can’t face the fact that the situation is out of control, hence the bullshit narratives about it being fake, pre-planned, controlled, NHS conspiracy etc.
Their behaviour is disgusting though and offensive to the NHS workers who’ve given so much over the last 18 months.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2021
  • #51,681
Morons

 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2021
  • #51,682
skybluetony176 said:
Morons

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didn't you know huge amounts of cash makes you immune? Or you can just get one of the servants to contract the virus for you?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,683
What are the studies on how the vaccine affects transmission rates?

Can't find anything anywhere.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,684
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What are the studies on how the vaccine affects transmission rates?

Can't find anything anywhere.
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Not sure.
Think they seemed to think of hope it was very effective in Israel at the point of mass vaccination but the Indian/Delta variant reduced it

Really not certain at all but think it's low may have seen 50% at one point but I do remember feeling crest fallen that it wasn't going to be the magic bullet.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,685
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What are the studies on how the vaccine affects transmission rates?

Can't find anything anywhere.
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The Lancet:
DEFINE_ME

New England Journal of Medicine:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2106757
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,686
SBT said:
The Lancet:
DEFINE_ME

New England Journal of Medicine:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2106757
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Thanks for posting that.

Doesn't seem particularly reassuring whatsoever to be honest.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,687
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Thanks for posting that.

Doesn't seem particularly reassuring whatsoever to be honest.
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Nothing is completely reassuring
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,688
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Thanks for posting that.

Doesn't seem particularly reassuring whatsoever to be honest.
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What doesn’t seem reassuring?

From the first one:
several of the available vaccines appear to limit infection and viral replication, often lowering viral load beneath the threshold for transmission and preventing symptoms…many studies show significant efficacy in preventing transmission for some vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines
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From the second one:
We provide empirical evidence suggesting that vaccination may reduce transmission by showing that vaccination of health care workers is associated with a decrease in documented cases of Covid-19 among members of their households. This finding is reassuring for health care workers and their families.
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What stood out for you?
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,689
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Thanks for posting that.

Doesn't seem particularly reassuring whatsoever to be honest.
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Why?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,690
SBT said:
What doesn’t seem reassuring?

From the first one:


From the second one:


What stood out for you?
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'Given that vaccination reduces asymptomatic infection with SARS-CoV-2,2,3 it is plausible that vaccination reduces transmission; however, data from clinical trials and observational studies are lacking.'


The studies largely say nothing.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,691
COV said:
Why?
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,692
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
'Given that vaccination reduces asymptomatic infection with SARS-CoV-2,2,3 it is plausible that vaccination reduces transmission; however, data from clinical trials and observational studies are lacking.'


The studies largely say nothing.
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That sentence you’ve quoted is immediately followed by another saying the authors have subsequently gathered “reassuring” empirical evidence though?

The studies were lacking; now they’re showing good news!
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,693
SBT said:
That sentence you’ve quoted is immediately followed by another saying the authors have subsequently gathered “reassuring” empirical evidence though?

The studies were lacking; now they’re showing good news!
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I hope you are right. Just seems to me the jury is out still.

I desperately want the vaccine to be the way out of this, but I'm losing a lot of hope that it is going to be the case.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,694
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I hope you are right. Just seems to me the jury is out still.

I desperately want the vaccine to be the way out of this, but I'm losing a lot of hope that it is going to be the case.
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Which studies have you seen that argue the contrary?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 20, 2021
  • #51,695
SBT said:
Which studies have you seen that argue the contrary?
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As I said, there seems to be a lack of studies that I could find at least. That's why I asked.

The ones you posted hardly cover the positive in glory though do they?
 
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