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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Grendel said:
The much heralded Australia looks like it’s zero Covid policy was not a smart move

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No. Better to have 130,000 dead than a few protests.
 
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COV

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,297
Deleted member 9744 said:
No. Better to have 130,000 dead than a few protests.
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Hard to argue with that
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Grendel said:
I don’t know why you get sensitive - I’m pointing out acts of this diet can’t be ignored. If 80 cities in the U.K. say had thousands protesting against the Johnson government and its handling of the pandemic you would just dismiss them as cranks?
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So why didn't we listened to the substantial greater numbers who protested against Brexit?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Deleted member 9744 said:
So why didn't we listened to the substantial greater numbers who protested against Brexit?
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Well they weren’t the majority anyway just a bunch of cranks. Also they had a democratic vote and lost
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,300
Deleted member 9744 said:
No. Better to have 130,000 dead than a few protests.
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I’m sure you’d be delighted with a country that’s not bothered vaccinating it’s population - Australia what a bastion of democracy
 

COV

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,301
Grendel said:
I’m sure you’d be delighted with a country that’s not bothered vaccinating it’s population - Australia what a bastion of democracy
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How many have died in Australia?

Edit: I just googled it- 918 deaths.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,302
COV said:
How many have died in Australia?

Edit: I just googled it- 918 deaths.
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By your own argument how many have died in the Falkland Islands
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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‘Seriously ill’ young people in current Covid admissions, expert warns
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,304
dubed said:
‘Seriously ill’ young people in current Covid admissions, expert warns
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Pah,who are we to cower?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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There will obviously be a lot of news items of young people being ill and long Covid to try and mop up the remaining people to be vaccinated in an attempt to push voluntary vaccines as I suspect the government is reluctant to go the compulsory route
 
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COV

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,306
Grendel said:
By your own argument how many have died in the Falkland Islands
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lol- I’m not arguing with anyone though. It’s like as has been pointed out to you by other people, you have some kind of disgust for other nations.

And I just googled it- zero dead in the Falklands, and 63% fully vaccinated so far. They’ll get to the magic 100% I reckon, or close to it
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,307
Grendel said:
Well they weren’t the majority anyway just a bunch of cranks. Also they had a democratic vote and lost
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Whereas the protests against lockdown/vaccines etc aren't?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,308
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Whereas the protests against lockdown/vaccines etc aren't?
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I haven’t said that - I don’t though agree with two tiered societies
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,309
Grendel said:
I haven’t said that - I don’t though agree with two tiered societies
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Despite voting your entire life for a party that consistently puts forward policies creating one by giving to the rich and taking from the poor.
 
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COV

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Grendel said:
I haven’t said that - I don’t though agree with two tiered societies
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It’s already a multi-tiered society, as with almost every other country.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Despite voting your entire life for a party that consistently puts forward policies creating one by giving to the rich and taking from the poor.
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Which again is stereotypical drivel
 

COV

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,312
Grendel said:
Which again is stereotypical drivel
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It’s not though, is it. Wouldn’t matter if it was your lot or Labour (who would make a mess of it anyway), there will always be tiers, it’s the nature of the beast. To suggest it could be any other way is to live in an impossible utopian dreamland and you don’t come across as a stupid man.

Therefore if you accept that high-level intervention in times of huge crisis is necessary- and in fact a trait of good leadership, you’d have to accept that some measure- whatever it may be- would be a wise move.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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...and in today's predictable news...

 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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COV said:
lol- I’m not arguing with anyone though. It’s like as has been pointed out to you by other people, you have some kind of disgust for other nations.

And I just googled it- zero dead in the Falklands, and 63% fully vaccinated so far. They’ll get to the magic 100% I reckon, or close to it
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How many sheep have died
 
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COV

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Deleted member 5849 said:
...and in today's predictable news...

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A tierless society indeed

Selling plants and passing them off as visors is a good one though, surprised nobody spotted that before paying up
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Sky Blue Pete said:
How many sheep have died
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How many 80yr olds are there out of 3500 people ?
 

COV

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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wingy said:
How many 80yr olds are there out of 3500 people ?
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“ The islands' age distribution is skewed towards working age (20–60). Males outnumber females (53 to 47 percent), and this discrepancy is most prominent in the 20–60 age group.”
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Grendel said:
I’m sure you’d be delighted with a country that’s not bothered vaccinating it’s population - Australia what a bastion of democracy
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Rather be in a country that looks after its population rather than allowing elderly and vulnerable to die.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Grendel said:
By your own argument how many have died in the Falkland Islands
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Ridiculous. Do you really not understand that the Flaklands is much smaller than Australia or the UK?

By the way don't even try the argument that Australia has fewer deaths than us because it has a smaller population. There is no doubt we have handled this appallingly and that is due to our Government 's incompetence.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Grendel said:
I haven’t said that - I don’t though agree with two tiered societies
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Like grammar schools?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Deleted member 5849 said:
...and in today's predictable news...

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It’s amazing what you can achieve with fast track for mates. Grendull must be fuming as he doesn’t believe in a two tiered society.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 25, 2021
  • #50,322
Bit of a read.
Am looking for data relating to fiscal implications of the direction taken.


Edit- Oh ffs forgot to paste


"Two routes to precarious success: Australia, New Zealand, COVID-19 and the politics of crisis governance - Nicholas Bromfield, Allan McConnell, 2020" SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class research journals
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Not fully detailed but some pointers.

"A Look at Australia and New Zealand's Economies as They Stay Close to COVID-Free | GOBankingRates" A Look at Australia and New Zealand’s Economies as They Stay Close to COVID-Free
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Grendel said:
I don’t know why you get sensitive - I’m pointing out acts of this diet can’t be ignored. If 80 cities in the U.K. say had thousands protesting against the Johnson government and its handling of the pandemic you would just dismiss them as cranks?
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You’ve gone full crank. Amazing.



Watch out for the lizard people G.

 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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wingy said:
Not fully detailed but some pointers.

"A Look at Australia and New Zealand's Economies as They Stay Close to COVID-Free | GOBankingRates" A Look at Australia and New Zealand’s Economies as They Stay Close to COVID-Free
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Australia what a bastion of democracy.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Deleted member 9744 said:
Rather be in a country that looks after its population rather than allowing elderly and vulnerable to die.
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That rules out all of Europe then. Not North Korea though
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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shmmeee said:



You’ve gone full crank. Amazing.



Watch out for the lizard people G.

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I really haven’t - I’m hardly anti vaccine - my whole family has had it. However I do not think people should be forced to have it or have restricted measures placed on them - I also don’t believe protests shouldn’t be allowed just because a majority of the population considers them to be extreme
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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Grendel said:
I really haven’t - I’m hardly anti vaccine - my whole family has had it. However I do not think people should be forced to have it or have restricted measures placed on them - I also don’t believe protests shouldn’t be allowed just because a majority of the population considers them to be extreme
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Those protests you’re lauding were from people saying all healthcare workers should be on trial and hung. You’ve claimed they have some legitimacy. They don’t.

AFAIK no country on earth including the most authoritarian are force vaccinating anyone. Would love to see evidence to the contrary. Again you’ve been so desperate to prove a point against someone you’ve ended up siding with loons.

We’re in a pandemic. Public health applies. We restrict “freedom” of some for others all the time. It’s called the legal system.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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shmmeee said:
Those protests you’re lauding were from people saying all healthcare workers should be on trial and hung. You’ve claimed they have some legitimacy. They don’t.

AFAIK no country on earth including the most authoritarian are force vaccinating anyone. Would love to see evidence to the contrary. Again you’ve been so desperate to prove a point against someone you’ve ended up siding with loons.

We’re in a pandemic. Public health applies. We restrict “freedom” of some for others all the time. It’s called the legal system.
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I’m not lauding anything and I don’t personally believe I have the right to judge what is valid and what isn’t.

I have also pointed out it’s not forced vaccination but a restriction in peoples ability to enjoy freedoms if they reject it. Perhaps they should all have to wear an orange boiler suit with a COVID emoji when they leave the house so we know who they are

I’m not sure what you mean by the last sentence. I do know piers Corbyn was fined £10,000 for organising a rally that broke COVID rules last year. I have looked but I can’t see evidence of other, far larger but more popular gatherings receiving the same treatment - how very odd
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 25, 2021
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shmmeee said:
Those protests you’re lauding were from people saying all healthcare workers should be on trial and hung. You’ve claimed they have some legitimacy. They don’t.

AFAIK no country on earth including the most authoritarian are force vaccinating anyone. Would love to see evidence to the contrary. Again you’ve been so desperate to prove a point against someone you’ve ended up siding with loons.

We’re in a pandemic. Public health applies. We restrict “freedom” of some for others all the time. It’s called the legal system.
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I’m sure you’re uneasy of proof of vaccination for events being used to coerce and manipulate behaviour aren’t you?
 
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