Brighton Sky Blue
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Well no it’s just down to Daddy Trump leading the COVID scepticism
They don’t understand risk
Half of Americans believe you can pray Covid away. That’s lunacy not faithWell no it’s just down to Daddy Trump leading the COVID scepticism
Half of Americans believe you can pray Covid away. That’s lunacy not faith
After two. We're talking about removing all restrictions after most people haven't had two.Israel just released latest data on Pfizer, 95% efficacy after 2 jabs.
After two. We're talking about removing all restrictions after most people haven't had two.
Pretty irrelevant.45% of Israelis haven’t had two have they?
Pretty irrelevant.
Well here's why.Why? Did Israel lift most restrictions in March?
Of getting symptomatic Covid - 76% according to cited trial.Single dose AZ is around 70% efficacy for first 90 days
A single standard dose had an efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19 in the first 90 days of 76·0% (59·3 to 85·9), yet provided no protection against asymptomatic infection (vaccine efficacy −17·2% [–248·6 to 60·6]). Notably, efficacy against any nucleic acid amplification test-positive cases, including symptomatic and asymptomatic or unknown cases, was 63·9% (46·0 to 75·9) after a single standard dose, suggesting the possibility of reducing viral transmission.
Surely if you’re asymptomatic you’re less contagious?
One dose offers no protection against asymptomatic infection, so you can still heartily spread away, although of course not showing symptoms means you're less likely to be coughing in peoples' faces!
She got any medical complaints at all? At a different surgery to you? Think texts are the GP way of doing things.Doesn't appear to be any rhyme of reason to jab booking lately.
Partner had hers 2 weeks ago. As council arranged spares for teachers. Last week she got a text saying its time to book hers. She is a year younger than me !
Doesn't appear to be any rhyme of reason to jab booking lately.
Partner had hers 2 weeks ago. As council arranged spares for teachers. Last week she got a text saying its time to book hers. She is a year younger than me !
Well here's why.
Single-dose Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine followed by a 12-week booster
Vaccines to prevent COVID-19 infection are crucial for an effective global pandemic response. In The Lancet, Merryn Voysey and colleagues1 report the updated primary efficacy results for the Oxford–AstraZeneca ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AZD1222) vaccine from three single-blind, randomised controlled...www.thelancet.com
If we're saying that other nations are having issues because of a vaccine efficacy of 50%, then with one dose, we're looking similar. Now, this paper is encouraging, in that it supports the UK government's policy of longer time spans between doses. However, the Oxford efficacy appears to be down at 55.1% if doses given less than six weeks apart. That's also having had two doses, rather than just one. One dose offers no protection against asymptomatic infection, so you can still heartily spread away, although of course not showing symptoms means you're less likely to be coughing in peoples' faces!
So, if you're expecting to remove masks and distancing (and Johnson said just the other day that he expected distancing to go June 21st, all things being equal - then again, this is the same bloke who was off to see his Mum on Mother's Day last year, and that didn't exactly go as he planned!), then many people will be down in the realms of said Chinese vaccine as they won't have received both doses, and many will be on 0% as they won't have received any. Couple that with an efficacy of 81% after two doses 12 weeks apart, and you're looking at spread.
The encouraging thing, is it does seem even if you catch it after being vaccinated, you're pretty unlucky to catch it badly, which is the primary aim (I can't be bothered to check what the comparison with the Chinese vaccine is in that respect), but it's also about reducing spread to squash it, and therefore reduce risk of mutation / cases rising due to increased contact meaning increased transmission.
I'll refer you back to the fact that risk of hospitalisation for over 40s is high enough, that if you remove masks, and also distancing, then the risk goes up quite a lot. They also have reclassified a number of people with asthma too, of course. Now, that can be a positive thing (evidence emerges that it's not as much of a risk to them!) but it does show we're a constantly moving feast atm.But by June 21st vulnerable age groups and those vulnerable will have been
Offered two doses won’t they?
I'll refer you back to the fact that risk of hospitalisation for over 40s is high enough, that if you remove masks, and also distancing, then the risk goes up quite a lot.
Increase transmission, you increase cases. I don't quite understand tbh the resistance to masks inside for a few more weeks, to suppress it properly. Right at the beginning of this, we decided we only had a few cases, nothing to worry about, after all. Why not, having got this far, suppress it all the more and maximise the chances of no restrctions going forward - at all?
The people who aren't a risk to others, yep!I’m sure some will wear masks anyway.
The army have taken control of the logistics here. I went to see if there were any spares the other day at the local military base that’s now a vaccination centre and had to speak to a guy carrying a huge machine gun at the entrance.Sat waiting after my jab. Amazed by how orderly and efficient it’s all been. We should’ve got the NHS to handle Brexit.
She got any medical complaints at all? At a different surgery to you? Think texts are the GP way of doing things.
I got my GP text a week after I’d booked online. How old are you?
33 year old colleague has now been offered it. Getting really sick of vaccine envy now
My ex got hers a month ago. She’s 33. I’m still waiting. I say waiting, I’m not actually that bothered, but you know what I mean.
Well it’s more for my own peace of mind with not long to a wedding.
Sorry, just being nosy. Surely you're registered somewhere, even if it's from 15 years ago?Can’t be much longer now. I’ll be booking mine on the nhs website as I’m not currently registered with a doctor.
Sorry, just being nosy. Surely you're registered somewhere, even if it's from 15 years ago?
For ages my doctor was here, while I lived 200 miles away(!)
According to Our World In Data Israel are up to 58.5% fully vaccinated, compared to our 23.4% so any data from there is going to give us a good indicator of what we can expect.Israel just released latest data on Pfizer, 95% efficacy after 2 jabs.
- Gathering restrictions increased to 50 people indoors and 500 people outdoors
- Gyms, sports facilities, swimming pools and indoor attractions are cleared for operating subject to the Purple Badge requirements
- All restrictions, including gathering restrictions, are lifted for establishments that opted to operate subject to the Green Pass requirements. It should be stressed: Only Green Pass holders may enter these establishments.
- Occupancy restrictions for all establishments that opted to operate subject to the Purple Badge have been unified, at a ratio of one person per every 7 square meters.
- Events (such as shows aimed at children) may be held according to the following conditions: Seated spectating only, outdoors only, up to 500 people, no Green Pass required.
The army have taken control of the logistics here. I went to see if there were any spares the other day at the local military base that’s now a vaccination centre and had to speak to a guy carrying a huge machine gun at the entrance.
Hahaha I was going to add it was definitely an actual machine gun.Was it a machine gun or was he just pleased to see you?
Surely if you’re asymptomatic you’re less contagious?
We started seeing a vaccine effect in the data well before second doses start which would suggest whatever the trial data says one dose does prevent spread as well as deaths.
Can’t be much longer now. I’ll be booking mine on the nhs website as I’m not currently registered with a doctor.
Edit: Actually I am. In Wyken, just checked with my ex ha ha. Useless
Got your NHS number? i know someone who had an awful time booking s it wouldn't find him
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