So that would leave commercial entities.Seems a bit too reckless for it to be politically motivated. More people are going to get ill because of the delay, and also it'll surely affect vaccine take up, in already sceptical countries.
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Was inevitable. It will be the beginning of the plan to oust him.Ministers frustrated with PM's 'mistakes' ahead of Covid second wave
Senior figures tell the BBC Boris Johnson should have been tougher in the autumn to prevent more deaths.www.bbc.co.uk
Tory ministers look to protect themselves and throw Boris to the wolves
Several EU countries suspended it's use though most are predominantly using Pfizer.
But in the UK there have been more incidents of clotting from Pfizer than AZ though both numbers are still incredibly small and in my opinion the risks from interrupting the vaccine program are far greater
The whole party will be in on it, it's been the plan all along.Ministers frustrated with PM's 'mistakes' ahead of Covid second wave
Senior figures tell the BBC Boris Johnson should have been tougher in the autumn to prevent more deaths.www.bbc.co.uk
Tory ministers look to protect themselves and throw Boris to the wolves
It's one of the EU related problems that the UK is normally at the poor end of. EU members generally giving up regulatory powers to the EU means they have lost a lot of expertise. The UK was the home to the EMA pre Brexit and is a leader in the field. I don't think member state regulators have got the same level of confidence in their own decision making.Spain now the latest to suspend the AZ vaccine. Anyone else finding all this a bit odd. 40 cases of blood clots out of 17 million vaccinations. With AZ saying according to their data, you're less likely to have a blood clot after having the vaccine, than if you haven't had it.
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I’d imagine the chances of catching corona are far greater than any side effects anyway. To me it seems purely coincidental
I live on the east Suffolk coast and a local primary school was closed today and is remaining closed for the rest of this week at least, apparently they had a spike of positive cases last week and have closed as a precaution.We did over 2000 tests on kids over the last week, and didn’t have a single positive. Let’s hope that’s a flavour of what’s happening across the country.
As I understood it, there was no testing of primary school children happening. So this must have come from staff testing themselves or a community infection brought into school via the students. Let’s hope it’s a isolated case that they jumped on quickly.I live on the east Suffolk coast and a local primary school was closed today and is remaining closed for the rest of this week at least, apparently they had a spike of positive cases last week and have closed as a precaution.
No idea of numbers involved or whether the cases were among children, teaching staff or both.
hopefully it’s not as worrying as I think it sounds.
Interesting thread on how the US and Canada have basically acted the same way as EU countries towards the AZ vaccine and no one gave a shit.
The right wing Johnson apologists on Facebook aren't going to like that. 'he did all he could, don't blame Boris' blah blah.
Think it’s more a combination of things with regard to the EUs vaccine behaviour shmmeee. Slow regarding procurement, then blaming everyone else because of it, threatening AZ, saying the AZ jab was quasi ineffective/questioning its efficacy, then not being able to administer the AZ jabs due to (unsurprisingly) increased anti vax sentiment on the continent and then withholding/threatening to withhold supplies - not necessarily all in that order
Agree though, if US isn’t planning on using those AZ jabs soon, get them to places that need them...and quick !
ps Fauci’s initial comments regarding the UK potentially rushing vaccine approval was condemned and from memory he apologised/clarified immediately
Spain now the latest to suspend the AZ vaccine. Anyone else finding all this a bit odd. 40 cases of blood clots out of 17 million vaccinations. With AZ saying according to their data, you're less likely to have a blood clot after having the vaccine, than if you haven't had it.
I’ve already had it, but it would be very strange for all these different countries to raise serious concerns, let alone taking it out of use.This is truly bizarre.....collective madness coupled with appalling leadership.
Absolutely no scientific reason or fact behind it whatsoever. Just fucking weird behaviour that will leave thousands more dead.
This is truly bizarre.....collective madness coupled with appalling leadership.
Absolutely no scientific reason or fact behind it whatsoever. Just fucking weird behaviour that will leave thousands more dead.
Saw reports of people in the U.K. asking questions of nurses about blood clots and the like, slowing down the throughput having to be reassured if nothing else.
Bloody statistically illiterate idiots are going to cost lives.
Think I read an article the other day that we were expected to shift to one of the others for the under 40's .Yep, I've heard people here now are requesting for the Pfizer one too and are willing to delay their appointments for it. Scary
Got no problem with them pausing it to check things out if they like but yes, when all the numbers suggest there's no issue here, it would be nice not to wake up each morning to the news that there might be a problem!The contraceptive pill has a higher percentage blood clot rate than AZ vaccine
I feel the media need to push a line similar to this to stop people panicking
They’ve had enough of experts. Brexititis is catchingThere's something not right here. The basic numbers don't seem cause to halt everything yet why are more and more countries doing it?
Are we really saying this is something being coordinated by the EU to deflect blame from themselves? Why would all these countries just fall in line and put their own citizens at risk for that?
The first countries that paused the vaccine were talking about higher instances of clotting that all traced back to the same batch of vaccines but that doesn't seem to be mentioned now.
As I said, happy for the risk averse approach, especially when something's new. The numbers do seem *very* small though so, you'd expect it to resume in a few days. Radio 2's news has not been a good start to the day the past few days, however!I’m holding on to other countries being more risk averse and it’s a data issue not a safety issue. I wouldn’t put it past our or any government to ignore extra clotting issues if it was for the greater food and let’s face it there are many many examples of safe drugs not being safe at all
How could it ever be when it's sandwiched into the Zoe Ball show for god's sake lol.As I said, happy for the risk averse approach, especially when something's new. The numbers do seem *very* small though so, you'd expect it to resume in a few days. Radio 2's news has not been a good start to the day the past few days, however!
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