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We'll_live_and_die

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,306
Nick said:
Indonesia are vaccinating "working adults" first before the elderly. Makes sense.
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Vaccinate people going in and out of care homes then the people in care homes don’t need it.
Or is it a case of the vaccine means you won’t get ill but could still transmit it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,307
Rich said:
Vaccinate people going in and out of care homes then the people in care homes don’t need it.
Or is it a case of the vaccine means you won’t get ill but could still transmit it?
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The Oxford one especially did not seem to prevent infection, but it did remove symptoms.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,308
Rich said:
Vaccinate people going in and out of care homes then the people in care homes don’t need it.
Or is it a case of the vaccine means you won’t get ill but could still transmit it?
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That last question is one reason why every major health authority in the world is prioritising the most vulnerable patients, rather than the ones most likely to catch it. Clearly now that things are getting desperate, people are calling for a rethink, but the conventional wisdom is that you do it in a certain order.

Personally I think it makes sense to do it in whichever order means I get it first.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,309
Boris Johnson is having a press conference at 5pm, if anyone’s interested in hearing the opposite of what will happen two weeks from now.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,310
Nick said:
The thing is in small businesses, who does my work while I am off for 2 weeks? I can understand the position of small companies to be fair.

I felt a bit rough the other week, went and got a test on a Friday afternoon and was back in on the Monday morning once it was negative.

Have been saying this for ages, it's really not as simple as "stay at home" for everybody. The same for self employed people.
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Doesn't this in part come down to companies having sufficient staffing levels rather than running everything on the minimum possible to save money? Obviously if half your workforce is off there's a problem but most businesses should be able to cope with a certain level of staff being off. What happens if you take two weeks holiday? Assume the company doesn't collapse!

The suggestion has never been for everybody to stay at home, it has always been work from home if possible and if not you can go to work. The issue is more and more companies seem to be insisting people go in when there is no reason they can't work from home.

Has any country, even the ones that pursued a zero-covid strategy with the hardest lockdowns, actually closed all businesses or enforced all workers being WFH?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,311
Nick said:
Indonesia are vaccinating "working adults" first before the elderly. Makes sense.
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Yeah I read about that, I did think whether it would be best tp vaccinate those with the most lines of transmission first, ie school kids, students and working adults (who can't work from home).
 

Brylowes

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,312
I’d clearly forgotten the sheer horror of home schooling
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,313
Brylowes said:
I’d clearly forgotten the sheer horror of home schooling
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Depending on your child’s age I am happy to share what I make. Same goes for any secondary parents here.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,314
Warwick Uni did their Christmas science lectures online this year if they're any use to anyone who is home schooling. 6 lectures in total, 2 for each age group, 8+, 10+ and 12+.

Sign in

warwick.ac.uk
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,315
fernandopartridge said:
Yeah I read about that, I did think whether it would be best tp vaccinate those with the most lines of transmission first, ie school kids, students and working adults (who can't work from home).
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But the vast majority of those won't require any NHS resource......we've gotta find the quickest way to stop the flow of vulnerable & elderly into hospital, spending weeks or months in there before recovery or death.....otherwise the whole lot collapses doesn't it?
 
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Brylowes

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,316
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Depending on your child’s age I am happy to share what I make. Same goes for any secondary parents here.
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That’s very decent of you, thanks but we will cope, tbh it’s as much about me not having the patience, Mum copes much better so I tend to melt away whenever I can.
She’s 9 and a right ‘goody 2 shoes’ at school who always does well and gets glowing reports, but it’s obviously a different kettle of fish having to listen to us.
One thing about home schooling though, it should open a lot of people’s eyes ‘as to the very difficult job you guys do, hats off to you.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,317
Brylowes said:
That’s very decent of you, thanks but we will cope tbh it’s as much about me not having the patience, Mum copes much better so I tend to melt away whenever I can.
She’s 9 and a right ‘goody 2 shoes’ at school who always does well and gets glowing reports, but it’s obviously a different kettle of fish having to listen to us.
One thing about home schooling though, it should open a lot of people’s eyes to the very difficult job you guys do, hats off to you.
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Exam groups are back for remote lessons now as well so I’ve got to make more than I had planned for this week. Eeeekkkk
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,318
Nick said:
Indonesia are vaccinating "working adults" first before the elderly. Makes sense.
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Heard someone on the radio the other day talking about how smallpox was irradiated. There was a number of reasons such as money being made available for vaccination programs, various improvements to the vaccine etc. but a key point was switching the vaccination priority from the most vulnerable to the most likely to spread it. So there is some merit to switching at some point to vaccinating the most vulnerable to vaccinating people most likely to spread it. However, I suspect now isn’t the time with the NHS expected to be overrun in the next three weeks. Vaccinating the most vulnerable at this moment in time is possibly the more sensible approach.
 
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  • Jan 5, 2021
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Rich said:
Or is it a case of the vaccine means you won’t get ill but could still transmit it?
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That's my concern in a general sense - suddenly the oldies become the risk to the rest of the population!
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,320
We’ve just been told we are to work from home for all shifts now except for critical issues (hardware related) and if the kids are doing your head in at home.
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,321
hill83 said:
We’ve just been told we are to work from home for all shifts now except for critical issues (hardware related) and if the kids are doing your head in at home.
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On call so have to drive over if it's hardware?
 

hill83

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,322
Nick said:
On call so have to drive over if it's hardware?
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Yeah. About 15 minutes for me but furthest away lives other side of Wolverhampton.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,323
Cunts panic buying again.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,324
Nick said:
Cunts panic buying again.
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Yeah, noticed. Was at Costco in Derby this morning. Two trollies of toilet roll I kept seeing. They’re supposed to limit it, but people just individually buy it and meet up at the car.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,325
Tommo1993 said:
Yeah, noticed. Was at Costco in Derby this morning. Two trollies of toilet roll I kept seeing. They’re supposed to limit it, but people just individually buy it and meet up at the car.
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I don't know what it is about bog roll that makes it such a prime candidate for panic buying.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,326
LOCKDOWN

Quick, everybody rush to the supermarkets to mingle.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,327
So seems part of the issue is glass vials.
Could they not pre load the syringes hermetically sealed and ready to go .
Might actually speed up the jab process too.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,328
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don't know what it is about bog roll that makes it such a prime candidate for panic buying.
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There's just a lot of weirdos in this world unfortunately ! (Also I did see some psychology behind it, it’s a large item so gets cleared off shelves quicker leading to more panic....I’m still working through my 120 rolls from first lockdown so no panic here !)
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,329
wingy said:
So seems part of the issue is glass vials.
Could they not pre load the syringes hermetically sealed and ready to go .
Might actually speed up the jab process too.
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alternatively...

 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,330
CCFCSteve said:
There's just a lot of weirdos in this world unfortunately ! (Also I did see some psychology behind it, it’s a large item so gets cleared off shelves quicker leading to more panic....I’m still working through my 120 rolls from first lockdown so no panic here !)
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It’s also a lot more obvious when someone has 50 rolls in their trolley than two big bags of pasta or whatever.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,331
Once again Asda seems fine, is it just a certain type of supermarket that attracts these floofs?
 

Nick

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,332
Also, how come Tesco can deliver beers to me but the smaller pubs and shops who were doing it can't?
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,333
CCFCSteve said:
alternatively...

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Hehe yeah got that last night.
Better intravenously .
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,334
David O'Day said:
Once again Asda seems fine, is it just a certain type of supermarket that attracts these floofs?
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No panic buying in Waitrose, but I usually send the servants anyway so I wouldn't know
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,335
Nick said:
Also, how come Tesco can deliver beers to me but the smaller pubs and shops who were doing it can't?
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It's part of your regular shop . I guess.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,336
wingy said:
It's part of your regular shop . I guess.
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Right but there's little logic in a restaurant not being allowed to sell a bottle of beer while a shop can sell a 24 pack
 

shepardo01

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,337
Premier league announces 40 positive tests between 28th Dec and Jan 3rd......
Think Govt may take notice of this....
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,338
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Right but there's little logic in a restaurant not being allowed to sell a bottle of beer while a shop can sell a 24 pack
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Is it about the journey involved as much as anything ,be that your own or a delivery?
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,339
Nick said:
Also, how come Tesco can deliver beers to me but the smaller pubs and shops who were doing it can't?
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apparently groups have been congregating around places doing take away beer.
Sounds like absolute bollocks to me.
I'm sure there's more congregating going on in every aisle of the supermarket.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 5, 2021
  • #39,340
I've been getting my bog roll mail order since this kicked off, anyway.
 
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